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[Kikaimegami]

How is it that I always manage to derail a thread into talking about Legion without actually trying to?

EDIT: Well, this is awkward.

Modifié par Kikaimegami, 19 juillet 2010 - 02:32 .

[Zuranamee]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...
A very good post in the Miranda thread, Rip. Thank you.

I didn't do it for you.

I know that, and I'm glad you didn't. I'm just saying that it was a well thought out post. Though if you don't want to accept the compliment, that's fine.

The Mirandamancers who mind their own business don't need to hear my ramblings. If they do, they should know that nothing I say needs to be taken seriously, and I don't hate THEM, like some were saying. I just hate Miranda's character and everything she stands for. And Kraidy. If people disagree with that, hey, they have my full support, I have nothing against them.

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Han'Gerrel, I believe. I also think that telling the admirals privately is better than telling the public immensely.

What do you expect the admirals to do about it?

[Someone With Mass]

Kikaimegami wrote...

How is it that I always manage to derail a thread into talking about Legion without actually trying to?

That's because Legion is awesome. Simple.

Not on the same level as Tali, but still awesome.

[Arhka]

Collider wrote...

Andaius20 wrote...

I personally would have opted fro a private reveal to only the Admirals of what really happened while letting the public get the paragon speech. Just like how you can tell that one Admiral the truth, the one that was friends with Rael. I can't remember the names.

Han'Gerrel, I believe. I also think that telling the admirals privately is better than telling the public immensely.

I've always wondered if telling Han'Gerrel what really happened steer him away from the war movement, or actually commit him more. Han was rather close to Rael and maybe his loss could show him the cost of his war first hand. Thoughts?

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

Isn't speaking on her behalf exactly what Shepard is doing when he reveals the evidence? They did come to the Flotilla in the first place in help Tali not get exiled.

That's not why you go to the flotilla, you go to the flotilla to help Tali out in a dire situation.  She makes it very clear that it would be preferable to be exiled rather than have the evidence revealed.

Like the Sidonis decision, Shepard can decide that it's in Tali's best interest (so she is not exiled, and instead it's only her father who is reviled and not her) and Shepard can also decide that the Quarian people should know of the horrible experiments that a member of their government had done.

The stakes aren't nearly the same and pretty much everyone could agree on that.  What you do with Garrus is going against his wishes too, but that's where the similarities end.  Until I got on forums, I had thought that blocking the shot made Garrus unloyal, so there are some parallels there.  They could both be considered a betrayal, but Garrus is confused about the whole thing, while Tali is very clear.  That much is obvious.

I'll put it this way, if you go against Tali's wishes for something that Shep wants (exposing an evil, whatever,) its a betrayal.  If you do it because you think that she is too stupid to know what she really wants, I'm not sure if that's better or worse. 

[RiptideX1090]

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

[SpatFieya]

Tali: *Last piece of suit hits the floor* ...Take me Shepard!

Spat: M-m-m-momma sa-m-m-momma

[Zuranamee]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

How is it that I always manage to derail a thread into talking about Legion without actually trying to?

That's because Legion is awesome. Simple.

Not on the same level as Tali, but still awesome.

Us Geth are simply wonderful.

[Zuranamee]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

So will the rest of the story be more in line with this chapter's tone? Could turn out very good if done right.

[kraidy1117]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...
A very good post in the Miranda thread, Rip. Thank you.

I didn't do it for you.

I know that, and I'm glad you didn't. I'm just saying that it was a well thought out post. Though if you don't want to accept the compliment, that's fine.

The Mirandamancers who mind their own business don't need to hear my ramblings. If they do, they should know that nothing I say needs to be taken seriously, and I don't hate THEM, like some were saying. I just hate Miranda's character and everything she stands for. And Kraidy. If people disagree with that, hey, they have my full support, I have nothing against them.

I am honored to be hated.

[RiptideX1090]

SpatFieya wrote...

Tali: *Last piece of suit hits the floor* ...Take me Shepard!

Spat: M-m-m-momma sa-m-m-momma

No way. Shepard isn't taking Tali.

Tali is taking Shepard.

[Phil725]

Arhka wrote...

Collider wrote...

Andaius20 wrote...

I personally would have opted fro a private reveal to only the Admirals of what really happened while letting the public get the paragon speech. Just like how you can tell that one Admiral the truth, the one that was friends with Rael. I can't remember the names.

Han'Gerrel, I believe. I also think that telling the admirals privately is better than telling the public immensely.

I've always wondered if telling Han'Gerrel what really happened steer him away from the war movement, or actually commit him more. Han was rather close to Rael and maybe his loss could show him the cost of his war first hand. Thoughts?

The fact that Rael specifically mentioned telling Gerrel about the data doesn't make me expect good results from telling him.  I don't think Gerrel is nearly as clean and good as he comes across as, and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't at least know a little or support what Rael was doing.

[Collider]

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
Han'Gerrel, I believe. I also think that telling the admirals privately is better than telling the public immensely.

What do you expect the admirals to do about it?

It's not so much what I expect them to do. It's that it's their right to decide, in my opinion.
That said, I think not revealing the evidence completely is the better choice morally and logically. Of course, anyone who disagrees (short of just trying to malicious) is equally as valid.

[Spartas Husky]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Most aint, childish... besides happy endings aint childish, they are happy....although yes some stories I have read.... just...no.

But most I read have nice resolutions.

RiptideX1090 wrote...
Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

true.... but still....good writters should do nice stories... not put the effort into tragedies....then again only good writters can do tragedy.... but still eager to see the work after Xen ^_^

Also....

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 19 juillet 2010 - 02:40 .

[RiptideX1090]

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

So will the rest of the story be more in line with this chapter's tone? Could turn out very good if done right.

Darker. It's getting MUCH darker. But yeah, it's going EXACTLY where you think it's going.

[Azint]

I find it comical that I am a reputed cynic of this forum, expecially this thread, yet I never bash other characters. I do state my opinions on them frequently, but I never say anything off colored or just ludicrous about a character, unless it was the intent.

Yeah, I just read what blew over in the Miranda thread.

[Andaius20]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

A very good post in the Miranda thread, Rip. Thank you.

I didn't do it for you.

May I ask what it was about?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/128/index/2857694/109#3166985
Patching up misunderstandings with soem over zealous srs kat mirimancers.

[Titanium Man]

Riptide has tragedy covered, that's for sure. Restoring happy times falls to me, in turn.

[RiptideX1090]

Spartas Husky wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

true.... but still....good writters should do nice stories... not put the effort into tragedies....then again only good writters can do tragedy.... but still eager to see the work after Xen ^_^

I write all kinds of stories, and I hate the cliche of ever ending being happy. Some of my favorite movies are bittersweet or sad. Man on Fire and Million Dollar Baby are two of my all time favorites.

[Zuranamee]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

Btw, great job on chapter 5 rip and jones.

I'm glad you approve.

We like the darker tone, too many stories are childish happily ever after types.

Damn straight.

As Samara says: "This was never a story that would have a happy ending."

So will the rest of the story be more in line with this chapter's tone? Could turn out very good if done right.

Darker. It's getting MUCH darker. But yeah, it's going EXACTLY where you think it's going.

Good, not that we particularly like reading about pain, but dark tragedies do have a certain appeal, particularly when written well enough to allow you to get inside the thoughts of the main character, and to know the horror and pain firsthand.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

I find it comical that I am a reputed cynic of this forum, expecially this thread, yet I never bash other characters. I do state my opinions on them frequently, but I never say anything off colored or just ludicrous about a character, unless it was the intent.
Yeah, I just read what blew over in the Miranda thread.

It's nice to see you care so much about frivolous internet wars. Didn't know you cared.

[RiptideX1090]

Titanium Man wrote...

Riptide has tragedy covered, that's for sure. Restoring happy times falls to me, in turn.

I write all kinds of stories!

[Collider]

Azint wrote...

I find it comical that I am a reputed cynic of this forum, expecially this thread, yet I never bash other characters. I do state my opinions on them frequently, but I never say anything off colored or just ludicrous about a character, unless it was the intent.

Then again, what you said about about "one of the romances" when I asked was pretty funny (though I realize that was the intent).