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[RedTracer7]

Hey, does anyone know of a good site to make a banner for the forums here? I used to just make them myself, but that was on Windows 95, when the internet was a simpler place.



Sigh.

[NuclearBuddha]

Rakia_Time wrote...
Well actually it is fun to bring Legion both on the flotilla and on Tali's recruitment 

Aside from how it leads to the death of the Normandy's crew.

[Lividity Jones]

Azint wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Because I'm sure bringing an active geth aboard the Flotilla will really help Tali's case.

The circumstances does allow for one of the games best renegade interrupts.

Ah yes "renegades", players who compromise morality for the sake of getting the job done faster, we have dismissed this claim.

[Azint]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

But without horror and disgust it wouldn't be a war.  A war for the survival of all life in the galaxy. I don't think they'd do it but it would motivate me.  honestly I've yet to see a video game that semi-accurately portrays the horrors of war.  I don't want another stagnant experience, i want to feel like all hell has broken loose.  I've never seen that done in a video game.  Saving Private Ryan gave me that feeling, but that was it.

You can still get the feeling of such despair without children, there have been numerous examples with the abscence of children not hindering that aura.

[Azint]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Rakia_Time wrote...
Well actually it is fun to bring Legion both on the flotilla and on Tali's recruitment 

Aside from how it leads to the death of the Normandy's crew.

Unless you do a game where you do not romance Tali.

And the point of this playthrough is to make the most of Legion, at the expense of the crew.

Modifié par Azint, 12 avril 2010 - 07:17 .

[sergio71785]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Horror and disgust can be generated in different less-offensive ways.  Look, the movie you just cited didn't have kids in it at all.

Well, it technically did, but the kid never got shot or anything. 

[Strawberry Kiwi]

Hola, everyone. Nearing 1k Pages again I see?

[smecky-kitteh]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Rakia_Time wrote...
Well actually it is fun to bring Legion both on the flotilla and on Tali's recruitment 

Aside from how it leads to the death of the Normandy's crew.

but talis reaction to your paragone intervention is just too damn adorable. (on her recruitment)

Modifié par smecky-kitteh, 12 avril 2010 - 07:15 .

[NuclearBuddha]

sergio71785 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Horror and disgust can be generated in different less-offensive ways.  Look, the movie you just cited didn't have kids in it at all.

Well, it technically did, but the kid never got shot or anything. 

Then the point stands.

[timedrake32]

Azint wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Rakia_Time wrote...
Well actually it is fun to bring Legion both on the flotilla and on Tali's recruitment 

Aside from how it leads to the death of the Normandy's crew.

Unless you do a game where you do not romance Tali.
And the poinf of this playthrough is to make the most of Legion, at the expense of the crew.

it's time for you to DIE!

[RedTracer7]

Um, Rakia_Time. Your sig says you support Zaheed for a squadmate? Really. The most stagnant, cliche character to show up in Mass Effect?



"I'm a battle hardened merc with a streak of brutality and a long stand grudge."



Yeah, get in line. I would rather see Counciler Udina beside me in battle. "Quick Udina, wrap those Collectors up in bueacratic-red tape!"

[NuclearBuddha]

RedTracer7 wrote...
Um, Rakia_Time. Your sig says you support Zaheed for a squadmate? Really. The most stagnant, cliche character to show up in Mass Effect?

"I'm a battle hardened merc with a streak of brutality and a long stand grudge."

Yeah, get in line. I would rather see Counciler Udina beside me in battle. "Quick Udina, wrap those Collectors up in bueacratic-red tape!"

It's okay.  Zaeed is too awesome for some people.

[sergio71785]

Speaking of kids, on the Flotilla there has to be "temp suits" for kids. They're going to have to move between clean environments, probably multiple times a day, so they have to have some kind of temporary, non-custom suit to do so.

I know the game mentions "bubbles", but that just seemed for infants or the very young. There's no way a 10 year old kid or whatever would be put in a "bubble" when he has to move between clean environments. 

[Lividity Jones]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Um, Rakia_Time. Your sig says you support Zaheed for a squadmate? Really. The most stagnant, cliche character to show up in Mass Effect?

"I'm a battle hardened merc with a streak of brutality and a long stand grudge."

Yeah, get in line. I would rather see Counciler Udina beside me in battle. "Quick Udina, wrap those Collectors up in bueacratic-red tape!"

While I disagree with your opinion, that part about Udina was rather comical.

Well played.

[GuardianAngel470]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
But without horror and disgust it wouldn't be a war.  A war for the survival of all life in the galaxy. I don't think they'd do it but it would motivate me.  honestly I've yet to see a video game that semi-accurately portrays the horrors of war.  I don't want another stagnant experience, i want to feel like all hell has broken loose.  I've never seen that done in a video game.  Saving Private Ryan gave me that feeling, but that was it.

Horror and disgust can be generated in different less-offensive ways.  Look, the movie you just cited didn't have kids in it at all.

I know that, but that wasn't the reason I cited it.  I cited it because you mentioned horror and disgust, the main reason I want dead children is because I felt nothing on Horizon.  The people there were meaningless, mostly faceless statistics.  They were nothing but numbers and worse, they hated the Alliance.  Bioware gave me a reason to dislike them, as well as making them mostly faceless.  Making the player care about faceless statistics is hard, but having a wailing mother holding her dead child is easy.  I would immediately care about her plight.  Remember the audio log on the Alerei?  The mother recording her last words for her child?  i get chills every time I hear that, it is so sad.  I care about that mother even though she was conducting horrible experiments on sentient beings.  That is the feeling I want, and I want to be able to do something with it.

Besides, there are only so many ways horror and disgust can be done in a video game, and Mass Effect doesn't need gratuitous gore.

[Azint]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Ah yes "renegades", players who compromise morality for the sake of getting the job done faster, we have dismissed this claim.

I would not be experiencing the full game if all I ever do is make the same choices. I still prefer paragon.

[chool77]

alright im back...





lets talk tali!!!!......... so how cute would it be if shep sneaked up on tali and scared her with a hug from behind?



or some thing of the sort

[NuclearBuddha]

sergio71785 wrote...

Speaking of kids, on the Flotilla there has to be "temp suits" for kids. They're going to have to move between clean environments, probably multiple times a day, so they have to have some kind of temporary, non-custom suit to do so.

I know the game mentions "bubbles", but that just seemed for infants or the very young. There's no way a 10 year old kid or whatever would be put in a "bubble" when he has to move between clean environments. 

"Bubble" could mean a lot of things, up to a big, poofy bag with arms and legs, I'd imagine.

[timedrake32]

Rakia_Time wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...

Um, Rakia_Time. Your sig says you support Zaheed for a squadmate? Really. The most stagnant, cliche character to show up in Mass Effect?

"I'm a battle hardened merc with a streak of brutality and a long stand grudge."

Yeah, get in line. I would rather see Counciler Udina beside me in battle. "Quick Udina, wrap those Collectors up in bueacratic-red tape!"

Last i checked i was allowed to support who ever the **** i want, so just shut up

 atleast he's not supporting Morinth.....*reaps sig*..... o crap

[NuclearBuddha]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
But without horror and disgust it wouldn't be a war.  A war for the survival of all life in the galaxy. I don't think they'd do it but it would motivate me.  honestly I've yet to see a video game that semi-accurately portrays the horrors of war.  I don't want another stagnant experience, i want to feel like all hell has broken loose.  I've never seen that done in a video game.  Saving Private Ryan gave me that feeling, but that was it.

Horror and disgust can be generated in different less-offensive ways.  Look, the movie you just cited didn't have kids in it at all.

I know that, but that wasn't the reason I cited it.  I cited it because you mentioned horror and disgust, the main reason I want dead children is because I felt nothing on Horizon.  The people there were meaningless, mostly faceless statistics.  They were nothing but numbers and worse, they hated the Alliance.  Bioware gave me a reason to dislike them, as well as making them mostly faceless.  Making the player care about faceless statistics is hard, but having a wailing mother holding her dead child is easy.  I would immediately care about her plight.  Remember the audio log on the Alerei?  The mother recording her last words for her child?  i get chills every time I hear that, it is so sad.  I care about that mother even though she was conducting horrible experiments on sentient beings.  That is the feeling I want, and I want to be able to do something with it.

Besides, there are only so many ways horror and disgust can be done in a video game, and Mass Effect doesn't need gratuitous gore.

I don't expect anyone to understand where I'm coming from, really.  I'm coming to realize that my perspective on this matter is just different.

The Alarei log tears me up, too.  But you're still just giving more evidence that emotion can be generated without gratuitous violence towards children.

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 12 avril 2010 - 07:21 .

[MrBoomba]

chool77 wrote...

alright im back...


lets talk tali!!!!......... so how cute would it be if shep sneaked up on tali and scared her with a hug from behind?

or some thing of the sort

That... is exactly what I was looking for, for chap 2 of my ff, mind if i steal it? ;D

[NuclearBuddha]

timedrake32 wrote...

Rakia_Time wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...

Um, Rakia_Time. Your sig says you support Zaheed for a squadmate? Really. The most stagnant, cliche character to show up in Mass Effect?

"I'm a battle hardened merc with a streak of brutality and a long stand grudge."

Yeah, get in line. I would rather see Counciler Udina beside me in battle. "Quick Udina, wrap those Collectors up in bueacratic-red tape!"

Last i checked i was allowed to support who ever the **** i want, so just shut up

 atleast he's not supporting Morinth.....*reaps sig*..... o crap

Wasn't me who said it this time!

[Lividity Jones]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
But without horror and disgust it wouldn't be a war.  A war for the survival of all life in the galaxy. I don't think they'd do it but it would motivate me.  honestly I've yet to see a video game that semi-accurately portrays the horrors of war.  I don't want another stagnant experience, i want to feel like all hell has broken loose.  I've never seen that done in a video game.  Saving Private Ryan gave me that feeling, but that was it.

Horror and disgust can be generated in different less-offensive ways.  Look, the movie you just cited didn't have kids in it at all.

I know that, but that wasn't the reason I cited it.  I cited it because you mentioned horror and disgust, the main reason I want dead children is because I felt nothing on Horizon.  The people there were meaningless, mostly faceless statistics.  They were nothing but numbers and worse, they hated the Alliance.  Bioware gave me a reason to dislike them, as well as making them mostly faceless.  Making the player care about faceless statistics is hard, but having a wailing mother holding her dead child is easy.  I would immediately care about her plight.  Remember the audio log on the Alerei?  The mother recording her last words for her child?  i get chills every time I hear that, it is so sad.  I care about that mother even though she was conducting horrible experiments on sentient beings.  That is the feeling I want, and I want to be able to do something with it.

Besides, there are only so many ways horror and disgust can be done in a video game, and Mass Effect doesn't need gratuitous gore.

I think the moment I heard that was the moment I realized that, no matter what was going to stand in my way, I would reclaim Rannoch for the quarians. I don't care if I have to take the Normandy beyond the Veil and kill every rat-bastard one of them, I'd do it.

Modifié par Lividity Jones, 12 avril 2010 - 07:21 .