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[dagarretcp]

He seemed to be the token black guy in the game. Good job BioWare. lol

[Big Yam]

Jacob is a bore. Joker, Edi, and Kelly had more interesting dialogue.

[Nightwriter]

jlb524 wrote...

I voted: 'Jacob is my buddy, he's allright'

Because...he is.

Come on, jlb. It had to frustrate you as a gay woman the way Jennifer Hale sounded when you talked to him.

It frustrated me, so much I didn't even go near him.

[Koborover]

They should have stuck with Anderson as the major black guy. He is a great character and deserved more than that cameo in ME2.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I voted: 'Jacob is my buddy, he's allright'

Because...he is.

Come on, jlb. It had to frustrate you as a gay woman the way Jennifer Hale sounded when you talked to him.

It frustrated me, so much I didn't even go near him.

Of course, but there are worse things for my lesbian FemSheps to be frustrated over, than sounding like they wanted to eat Jacob every time they talked to him.

I do cringe everytime I hear Hale speak with Jacob, but I can't blame his character for it.  I still suck it up and  talk to Jacob so my FemSheps and he can get to the 'bro-hug, spill some drinks' stage of the relationship

[KendallX23]

what exactly did u find boring about him ?he was one of my favourite squadmates..i always used him..the other swapped from all the other companions..i really don't see why u dislike him so much...My second in command...well if Miranda wouldn't be here...it's Thane that i found boring...though i liked his recruit mission and loyalty one

[Nightwriter]

jlb524 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I voted: 'Jacob is my buddy, he's allright'

Because...he is.

Come on, jlb. It had to frustrate you as a gay woman the way Jennifer Hale sounded when you talked to him.

It frustrated me, so much I didn't even go near him.

Of course, but there are worse things for my lesbian FemSheps to be frustrated over, than sounding like they wanted to eat Jacob every time they talked to him.

I do cringe everytime I hear Hale speak with Jacob, but I can't blame his character for it.  I still suck it up and  talk to Jacob so my FemSheps and he can get to the 'bro-hug, spill some drinks' stage of the relationship

Lol. You're a good person, jlb. I guess I should've expected such a level-headed answer by now.

[jlb524]

I just wonder why Hale isn't flirty with Thane or Garrus? Why just Jacob? Any theories on this?

[Nightwriter]

jlb524 wrote...

I just wonder why Hale isn't flirty with Thane or Garrus? Why just Jacob? Any theories on this?

Now this is a good ass question. And honestly, I have no idea whatsoever.

Sometimes I wonder if the actual voice actors kind of had a thing for each other and played up to it, but then I think no, I kind of really doubt it.

Other times I fancy that Bioware is desperate to set us up with new romances and push the new LIs on us, and that it's because of that. Then I'm like, no, because male Shep was never insanely flirty with any of the male LIs.

So I really am clueless. Do you think they coached her to do this? It's just crazy.

[Chaos-fusion]

Nightwriter wrote...

So I really am clueless. Do you think they coached her to do this? It's just crazy.

That's the best explaination I can think of personally. Surely, they could have asked them to redo it with less sleaze if it wasn't intentional. But, I don't know how they direct a VA, so I could be way off here. *Shrug*

[SleepyBird]

Poor Jacob, I found him really annoying.  He seemed to have such potential when he told us he'd been a corsair, but then blah.  Boring tight-ass jock for the rest of the game.

A lot of guys seem to hate the typical female love interest (Kaiden is a prime example) who is willing to discuss his past and problems if asked, so I think maybe Jacob was designed to be more of a guy's guy who doesn't talk about his troubles.  Unfortunately, they took the 'Jacob isn't a whiner' idea too far and made him a closed-off boring jock. 

The voice acting is a big part of the problem too, the actor somehow makes everything he says seem hostile and irritable.  And of course the aggressive insta-flirt attitude of femShep doesn't help. 

So many little things went wrong with him, I actually feel sorry for the poor jerk.  But not sorry enough to bother talking to him in my second playthrough. 

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

So I really am clueless. Do you think they coached her to do this? It's just crazy.

I think both VA's would be directed, so I'm not sure if we can blame Hale here, just like we can't blame Meer for any of his VO.

I haven't done the Thane or Garrus romances, but does FemShep even get flirty-sounding with them after moving past the 'interested' phase to the 'couple' phase?  I've watched both love scenes for those guys and I know she doesn't sound as bad as she does in the Jacob one.

[Nightwriter]

jlb524 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

So I really am clueless. Do you think they coached her to do this? It's just crazy.

I think both VA's would be directed, so I'm not sure if we can blame Hale here, just like we can't blame Meer for any of his VO.

I haven't done the Thane or Garrus romances, but does FemShep even get flirty-sounding with them after moving past the 'interested' phase to the 'couple' phase?  I've watched both love scenes for those guys and I know she doesn't sound as bad as she does in the Jacob one.

It's not near as bad. I quite liked it. It felt much more natural, and her voice to me was something akin to the way it was in the ME1 romances.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

It's not near as bad. I quite liked it. It felt much more natural, and her voice to me was something akin to the way it was in the ME1 romances.

Ok, so it's just with Jacob...lucky him, I guess.

[Nightwriter]

KendallX23 wrote...

what exactly did u find boring about him ?he was one of my favourite squadmates..i always used him..the other
swapped from all the other companions..i really don't see why u dislike him so much...My second in command...well if Miranda wouldn't be here...it's Thane that i found boring...though i liked his recruit mission and loyalty one

I just really felt like he wasn't developed as well as the other characters. It felt like they didn't work on him as much, he didn't really have a lot going for him.

Jacob was complete in and of himself, meaning he was... kind of boring and standoffish. He didn't change, grow, he wasn't really affected by the story at all. He didn't have much to say, either.

Is it a stretch that more flushed out and dynamic characters appealed to us more?

Modifié par Nightwriter, 06 avril 2010 - 04:38 .

[Jack Package]

jlb524 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I voted: 'Jacob is my buddy, he's allright'

Because...he is.

Come on, jlb. It had to frustrate you as a gay woman the way Jennifer Hale sounded when you talked to him.

It frustrated me, so much I didn't even go near him.

Of course, but there are worse things for my lesbian FemSheps to be frustrated over, than sounding like they wanted to eat Jacob every time they talked to him.

I do cringe everytime I hear Hale speak with Jacob, but I can't blame his character for it.  I still suck it up and  talk to Jacob so my FemSheps and he can get to the 'bro-hug, spill some drinks' stage of the relationship

Hm, so you all say Hale sounds to sleazy when talking with Jacob???
I play the German version, and the german dubbing hasn't got this difference you are mentioning here. Maybe I should compare some youtube vids in order to be able to follow your complaints..

[Xaijin]

dagarretcp wrote...

He seemed to be the token black guy in the game. Good job BioWare. lol

As much as I hate to say it, from the outside, his SOLE purpose looks like it's to inculcate a specific demographic of action game frat house player, and "balance out the Cerberus color wheel" to avoid another Ashley rant mode.

Ashey wasn't intended to be all FAAZAHLANT either, but that's sure as hell how she comes off.

Modifié par Xaijin, 06 avril 2010 - 04:43 .

[FiveThreeTen]

[JediHealerCosmin]

Well, I have to say he is an ok character. In MaleShep's story, Jacob is practically filling Kaidan's role of Shepard's friend, which was pretty good in my opinion.
The whole "prize" thing is quite bad i admit

 

[danitiwa]

Koborover wrote...

They should have stuck with Anderson as the major black guy. He is a great character and deserved more than that cameo in ME2.

This. Jacob is a goody goody two shoes, I think he's okay. Nice kid, but Anderson has soul.
I don't hate Jacob, but I don't love him either. I'd probably like him a lot more if my femShep could have a normal friendly conversation with him instead of acting like a weird MILF in a leopard spotted bathrobe around him.

Modifié par danitiwa, 06 avril 2010 - 04:51 .

[Nightwriter]

Jack Package wrote...

Hm, so you all say Hale sounds to sleazy when talking with Jacob???
I play the German version, and the german dubbing hasn't got this difference you are mentioning here. Maybe I should compare some youtube vids in order to be able to follow your complaints..

So it's just her. Was is up with you, Jennifer??

[danitiwa]

Nightwriter wrote...

Jack Package wrote...

Hm, so you all say Hale sounds to sleazy when talking with Jacob???
I play the German version, and the german dubbing hasn't got this difference you are mentioning here. Maybe I should compare some youtube vids in order to be able to follow your complaints..

So it's just her. Was is up with you, Jennifer??

It's a shame, because she's really a great voice actress usually.

[Nightwriter]

Yeah, I love her voice work.

[danitiwa]

Some of these are really sexy, but what she did with Jacob just felt weird.



Aah Cartoonnetwork, I remember watching the Powerpuff girls. It's amazing how different Seduca and Princess sound.