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[shep82]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

Was no one paying attention to what EDI says after you destroy the derelect Reaper? She could not anticipate how Reaper techology would react when installed into the Normandy's systems. So as a precautionary move all essential personel were evacuated from the ship. Not sure how people claim this to be a plot hole as it should be common sense.

Agreed but there is the problem. Common sense no longer exists in the common world.

[Icinix]

They took the whole squad out in the shuttle for some much needed before mission stress relief.

I thought it was obvious?

[MassAffected]

KingusJamus wrote...

See I never let this get to me. You talk to any party member and they act like they're always a part of what's going on, even if you've never had them in your party once. I just picture them coming along for every mission, you only get to use two of them.

Same with Dragon Age, why are these people tagging along talking about making history when they sit around a campfire the entire time. Just suspend your disbelief and enjoy the ride.

This. I also picture that the entire team goes to the missions, but are doing a different part in parallel with Shepard and his personal squad.

Too much  going on every time I log onto these boards.

EDI says to take the shuttle to our next mission/whatever. Who cares if we don't actually play the mission. We know Shep and crew are doing something at the time the Collectors show up. Call it whatever you want to, but I'm able to suspend my disbelief for something so minor and enjoy what is an amazing game/story to me.

[MassAffected]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

Was no one paying attention to what EDI says after you destroy the derelect Reaper? She could not anticipate how Reaper techology would react when installed into the Normandy's systems. So as a precautionary move all essential personel were evacuated from the ship. Not sure how people claim this to be a plot hole as it should be common sense.

Oh, and what he said.

[Icinix]

Wouldn't Joker be classed as essential personnel. Chakwas, the chief / indeed ONLY medical officer?

All they needed to do, was activate that part of the game when you actually WENT on a mission. Even if it was just a short N7 one. That way once you finish it, you start your way back, then the game swings to Joker on the Normandy.



Problem solved.

[Tooneyman]

They are taking to long isn't kasumi supposed to come out today. AHHH! I have to go to work at 8 central damn I'm so impatient I might not beable to down load her until tomorrow morning. AHHHHH!

[gkillerrin]

Xaijin wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

What I dont get is... Why didnt they go to the Citadel and wait in orbit around it while they install it... It seems like an obvious choice..

"hey were going to install some very dangerous Tech, lets go orbit the Citadel so we have protection and such while we install it"

That's the funny thing. I was at the Citadel when this event occurred. The Collector's apparently ambushed the Normandy when it was right next to the Citadel.

And yeah, I still don't understand why this happened. First time it occurred I was so horribly confused that I thought the game had glitched and loaded a different part of the game.

Xaijin wrote...

Why would the Citadel protect a Cerberus ship, exactly?

I don't think they would ignore the massive, unidentified space ship that has suddenly appeared out of nowhere, regardless of who it is attacking.

umm... what he said ^

Collectors have never been in Citadel space, and are unlikely to be. Relay IFF activates is not in the Widow.

Sorry, fail.

noo.. they wouldn't know that thats the citadel, so if they installed it in the citadel, they would come and citadel fleet would open fire because of the HUGE F*CKING UNIDENTIFIED SHIP* that just entered the Citadel's Orbit
and even if they didnt come, EDI would have found it and gotten rid of the signal/virus's with that extra tme while installing... DUH, your logic is FAIL

[Xaijin]

EDI can't decrypt an email with standard Cerb Ops encryption. The Collectors know EXACTLY where it is, which is why they attacked the Normandy outside of Citadel space the first time, EDI also failed ot prevent the Collectors from shutting down critical systems and getting onboard.

but thanks for playing though.

Modifié par Xaijin, 06 avril 2010 - 09:48 .

[Razorsedge820]

I like to think everyone went along so they can all go on one last shopping spree at Cerberus's expense before the final mission.

[Vaenier]

I was going to the Omega 4 relay when suddenly I was told to use the shuttle to go there because they were busy installing the device to go to the omega 4 relay. So, in some horrible alternate reality, my squad went through the relay in a fraking dropship, those who didnt instantly die from the black holes were killed by giant eyeballs. Thanks for the advice...

[Jonathan Shepard]

jklinders wrote...

The Governator wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Plot driven idiocy.

I love Bioware but...yeah.

Agreed. This and the whole back from the dead cliche are the only 2 things in the writing of this game that truely strikes me as bad and lazy. At least Shep did not have amnesia as well. That would have fromed a nice little RPG cliche trifecta.

We should demand DLC for why that mission was so important to require everyone...

[Xaijin]

?



They DO.



They have no idea what it will do to the ship; all mission CRITICAL personnel are therefore removed from the ship...



the end.

[gkillerrin]

Xaijin wrote...

EDI can't decrypt an email with standard Cerb Ops encryption. The Collectors know EXACTLY where it is, which is why they attacked the Normandy outside of Citadel space the first time, EDI also failed ot prevent the Collectors from shutting down critical systems and getting onboard.

but thanks for playing though.

Noo, she had to take the ship's reactors and such offline because they were tampering the the Drive core..DUH ever talk to Joker/Garrus/EDI By Joker


also if EDI cant detect/Decrypt it then HOW WAS SHE ABLE TO FIND OUT IT WAS TRANSMITTING THE SHIPS CO-ORDINATES, your logic is still FAIL


also if they did it in Citadel space which was my origional argument, they wouldn't have come and therefore EDI would have purged the systems...

Modifié par gkillerrin, 06 avril 2010 - 10:25 .

[Internet Kraken]

Xaijin wrote...



?



They DO.



They have no idea what it will do to the ship; all mission CRITICAL personnel are therefore removed from the ship...



the end.

What do they think it's going to do? If it does something so catastrophic that the entire Normandy is lost, then it wouldn't matter if the critical personnel are on it because the mission is screwed either way. There's no reason to get all of your highly trained combatants all of the ship. Especially because the game doesn't explain where you are going. I can only assume you all go to the destination you selected on the galaxy map, but that means that the Collectors have now attacked me outside of Ilium and the Citadel.

[KnotEngaged]

Alright guys, I'll tell you the real reason Shepard and his entire squad leaves t he Normandy when the Reaper IFF is installed, but you have to promise to keep it a secret. The reason they all leave the Normandy is becau--ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!

*THE REASON SHEPARD LEAVES THE NORMANDY IS NONE OF YOUR GODDAMNED BUSINESS!*

--RLEASING CONTROL

So yeah, that's why they leave! I couldn't believe it myself at first, but after thinking about it for awhile it made perfect sense, don't you agree?

Modifié par KnotEngaged, 06 avril 2010 - 10:28 .

[Xaijin]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

?

They DO.

They have no idea what it will do to the ship; all mission CRITICAL personnel are therefore removed from the ship...

the end.

What do they think it's going to do? If it does something so catastrophic that the entire Normandy is lost, then it wouldn't matter if the critical personnel are on it because the mission is screwed either way. There's no reason to get all of your highly trained combatants all of the ship. Especially because the game doesn't explain where you are going. I can only assume you all go to the destination you selected on the galaxy map, but that means that the Collectors have now attacked me outside of Ilium and the Citadel.

see: Citadel + geth; ME1.

[Xaijin]

gkillerrin wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

EDI can't decrypt an email with standard Cerb Ops encryption. The Collectors know EXACTLY where it is, which is why they attacked the Normandy outside of Citadel space the first time, EDI also failed ot prevent the Collectors from shutting down critical systems and getting onboard.

but thanks for playing though.

Noo, she had to take the ship's reactors and such offline because they were tampering the the Drive core..DUH ever talk to Joker/Garrus/EDI By Joker


also if EDI cant detect/Decrypt it then HOW WAS SHE ABLE TO FIND OUT IT WAS TRANSMITTING THE SHIPS CO-ORDINATES, your logic is still FAIL


also if they did it in Citadel space which was my origional argument, they wouldn't have come and therefore EDI would have purged the systems...

All other protocols and failsafes are also offline, hence Joker running around. Did you actually play the game?

Because it uses the same signal the collector ship used, the relay is still active, just like Me1; again did you actually play the game or just youtube it?

They still have to get to the proper relay to access the base; ala ... ME1. Hmm.

Modifié par Xaijin, 06 avril 2010 - 10:49 .

[MassAffected]

Xaijin wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

EDI can't decrypt an email with standard Cerb Ops encryption. The Collectors know EXACTLY where it is, which is why they attacked the Normandy outside of Citadel space the first time, EDI also failed ot prevent the Collectors from shutting down critical systems and getting onboard.

but thanks for playing though.

Noo, she had to take the ship's reactors and such offline because they were tampering the the Drive core..DUH ever talk to Joker/Garrus/EDI By Joker


also if EDI cant detect/Decrypt it then HOW WAS SHE ABLE TO FIND OUT IT WAS TRANSMITTING THE SHIPS CO-ORDINATES, your logic is still FAIL


also if they did it in Citadel space which was my origional argument, they wouldn't have come and therefore EDI would have purged the systems...

All other protocols and failsafes are also offline, hence Joker running around. Did you actually play the game?

Because it uses the same signal the collector ship used, the relay is still active, just like Me1; again did you actually play the game or just youtube it?

They still have get to the proper relay to access the base; ala ... ME1. Hmm.

You're not going to get through dude, people don't like to listen to reason when they are aboard the hate train.

[Xenon]

I've always wondered about this. It seems like the writers of the game could just say that the conveniently located Colony 'X' in the 'Y' System is under attack by vicious 'Z' foot soldiers. Shepard, being the only guy in the area, must defend the colony. I would have really liked some explanation, but the game's so good I can probably let this go.

[gkillerrin]

Xaijin wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

EDI can't decrypt an email with standard Cerb Ops encryption. The Collectors know EXACTLY where it is, which is why they attacked the Normandy outside of Citadel space the first time, EDI also failed ot prevent the Collectors from shutting down critical systems and getting onboard.

but thanks for playing though.

Noo, she had to take the ship's reactors and such offline because they were tampering the the Drive core..DUH ever talk to Joker/Garrus/EDI By Joker


also if EDI cant detect/Decrypt it then HOW WAS SHE ABLE TO FIND OUT IT WAS TRANSMITTING THE SHIPS CO-ORDINATES, your logic is still FAIL


also if they did it in Citadel space which was my origional argument, they wouldn't have come and therefore EDI would have purged the systems...

All other protocols and failsafes are also offline, hence Joker running around. Did you actually play the game?

Because it uses the same signal the collector ship used, the relay is still active, just like Me1; again did you actually play the game or just youtube it?

They still have get to the proper relay to access the base; ala ... ME1. Hmm.

Check my Gamertag, my Profile that has it unlocked, my soon to be Steam account... YEAH I'VE PLAYED IT

but I was saying IF they were in Orbiting the Citadel then they wouldn't have been kidnapped.. dont put words in my mouth

You still fail

[Xaijin]

Of course, because the Collectors are COMPLETELY incapable of waiting until the Normandy leaves Citadel space to get to the RELAY

Are you five by chance?

Modifié par Xaijin, 06 avril 2010 - 10:52 .

[gkillerrin]

Xaijin wrote...

Of course, because the Collectors are COMPLETELY incapable of waiting until the Normandy leaves Citadel space to get to the RELAY

Are you five by chance?

NO, and while they were in Citadel space, EDI would have found the Bug, and gotten rid of it.. ala the same way they purged the systems in the cutscene

And this is why I dont voice my opinions on things... Too many stupid people putting words in my mouth that I never said, and everyone fails to see my logic

Modifié par gkillerrin, 06 avril 2010 - 10:58 .

[Xaijin]

You assume she's going to detect it  prior to/during activation with your magic auto logic... You also assume the program isn't a two part TSR which requires the relay to run embedded code in the first place.

And that the collectors aren't simply going to blow up the crew trying to get in without the virus = ie dead crew. As opposed to the method that leaves the crew alive and intact. The normandy is pretty ****ed up after the suicide mission = dead crew.

Modifié par Xaijin, 06 avril 2010 - 11:05 .

[MassAffected]

Saying what YOU want to happen =/= logic