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[ShadowPlay 14]

I'm considering making a tank, and all I've heard of in regard to tanks are the shield kinds and the 2H kinds. However, I personally think dual wielding is a much more efficient way of dealing damage faster. Is it possible to effectively tank with dual-wielding?

[Nerdage]

Dual-wielding duelists make pretty good off-tanks, but against bosses I doubt they'd cope very well, plus there doesn't seem to be a knock-down immunity for either DW warriors or rogues, which is quite important since you can't block or dodge when you're knocked down you'll die pretty quickly while you stagger to your feet.

Modifié par nerdage, 06 avril 2010 - 07:19 .

[DragonShepard138]

I think it may work. Try it out. I've only had experience with Alistair tanking with a shield and a main hand sword. I'm not sure how much more damage you can get with dual wielding, but I believe you can attack much quicker.

[oyzar]

Getting 100 physical resistance isn't actually hard, it still sucks to be stunned or frozen though. If you go templar I guess you can avoid most magical effects rather easily. People have soloed as DW warrior, so I don't see why you would be unable to tank. Tanking really isn't about dealing damage the fastest though...

[Zilod]

with potions and a good healer i think too they could be ok, i think the main problem, rather than bosses will comes vs many mobs as they lack the cc capability of 2h and the dmg absorption/no flank ability of sns... still if you provide cc with a mage you should be ok even in this scenario



about soloing nightmare... the game adjust the encounters if you are solo, basically mobs are a bit weaker and you hit/dodge/etc more reliably, so it will be actually harder to tank in normal play whitout good support rather than in solo play

[oyzar]

If you have a good healer you really don't need potions...

As for many mobs just use wirlwind and dual sweep. There are also infinite different options for crowd control if you bring along a mage... If you don't have a mage either you have a whole lot of wirlwinds (which is quite good crowd control), or someone with scattershot or two handed sweep.

Modifié par oyzar, 06 avril 2010 - 09:15 .

[mosspit]

Any char (or possibly any class) can tank effectively. DW's falls short on CC and immunities. Whirlwind, DW Sweep are Dps not CC, they offer no real form of disabling (but many has armour/atk,etc debuffs). Even then, I would not directly classify CC skills under Tanking. But thats just me.

Immunities (like the godly indomitable) are far more reliable than phy res but its better than nothing.

[KyngPynch]

I am having a good playthrough with my DW warrior. The thing I find though is like nerdage said about getting knocked down. Crowd Control hasn't been much of an issue yet.

[soteria]

Other than getting knocked down and being vulnerable to flanking attacks, you can probably do it. Dual wield daggers and pump dexterity for best effect.

[gskurski]

soteria wrote...

Other than getting knocked down and being vulnerable to flanking attacks, you can probably do it. Dual wield daggers and pump dexterity for best effect.

I know that if you dual wield Dumat's Spine and Dumat's Claw you gain immunity to flanking at least.

[Meliorist13]

If you want to tank with any warrior spec in Origins, I think all you need to do is get just enough Str to equip the armor/weapons you want and funnel the rest into dexterity so you get hit less. Pop in a few Phys/Spell resistance runes and then go to town. I haven't tanked with a Dual-Wield Warrior yet, but since both S+S and 2-handers can do it, I don't see why a DWW couldn't either.

[Walina]

ShadowPlay 14 wrote...

I'm considering making a tank, and all I've heard of in regard to tanks are the shield kinds and the 2H kinds. However, I personally think dual wielding is a much more efficient way of dealing damage faster. Is it possible to effectively tank with dual-wielding?

Hell yeah! My pc always stole agro from Alistair even if he didn't had any aggro skill
I suppose the mob prefer target someone who do a lot of damage on it because it can target mages if they outpower ya.

[TBastian]

Isn't it possible to develop two different weapon styles as a PC fighter?

[Nooneyouknow13]

oyzar wrote...

If you have a good healer you really don't need potions...

As for many mobs just use wirlwind and dual sweep. There are also infinite different options for crowd control if you bring along a mage... If you don't have a mage either you have a whole lot of wirlwinds (which is quite good crowd control), or someone with scattershot or two handed sweep.

Aye, Sweep, Whirlwind, Holy smite, and grenades will allow you to carve up groups of enemies faster than they can realistically deal damage to you.  It actually makes the game laughably easy if you do this while magic immune.

Modifié par Nooneyouknow13, 08 avril 2010 - 04:28 .

[Amainville]

Admittedly, I almost always play on Casual, but my Dual Wield warrior was taking almost no damage whatsoever during the entirety of Awakening, and was a better tank than (surprisingly) Justice. Not only that, but she was able to demolish any enemies in her way. Again, just Casual gameplay experience, but just my two cents.

[Eli]

"Immunities (like the godly indomitable) are far more reliable than phy res but its better than nothing."



This raised a question for me . . . can a Warrior using a sword and shield or dual wielding enable and maintain Indomitable?

[mosspit]

No. As long as weapon is switched, indomitable turns off.

[Eli]

Drag. Thanks, Mosspit.