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TheBestClass

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I had a couple of ideas for a Soldier I'm about to start and I'd like to know what you guys think would be the most fun build:

Widow Soldier (or maybe Infiltrator? Which is the better sniper?)
Heightened AR
Commando
Tungsten Ammo
Squad Incendiary
Squad Disruptor

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Revenant Soldier
Hardened AR
Shock Trooper
Inferno Ammo
Squad Disruptor
Squad Cryo

Any advice is welcome. Also, does anyone know if Incendiary Ammo offers increased damage when enemies are on fire like Cryo gives when enemies are frozen? And is squad Cryo worth taking as a soldier or should I stick with AP Ammo. Oh, one more thing. Is Tungsten Ammo better for a Widow soldier than Inferno Ammo?

Modifié par TheBestClass, 06 avril 2010 - 10:47 .


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danitiwa

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I don't know but I like setting Vorcha on fire and watching them screm.

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oh no, you started a widow vs. revenant thread. There's a storm comin'



on a serious note, incendiary does not offer a damage bonus because it does damage over time instead and squad cryo is probably better for people with rapid fire weapons (revenant) and tungsten is probably better for single shot weapons (widow) where the 10%more armor damage than inferno will make a bigger difference. You do illustrate this in your builds so I'd say they are both good, albeit extremely standard

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Confucius08 wrote...

oh no, you started a widow vs. revenant thread. There's a storm comin'

on a serious note, incendiary does not offer a damage bonus because it does damage over time instead and squad cryo is probably better for people with rapid fire weapons (revenant) and tungsten is probably better for single shot weapons (widow) where the 10%more armor damage than inferno will make a bigger difference. You do illustrate this in your builds so I'd say they are both good, albeit extremely standard


What do you mean "standard?" On another note, would you even really miss Squad Cryo on a Widow soldier? I get what you're saying about Tungsten being the best choice but I wonder if that damage increase and crowd control from squadmates using Squad Cryo would help out just as much.

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Confucius08

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When I say standard I mean that your build options are the two most common/generally accepted as good builds for the soldier. There's nothing wrong with it at all, I just personally prefer to try and create my own build and playstyle. Again just personal preference, nothing wrong with either build

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implodinggoat

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This thread has everything you need to know. I posted the Widow and Vindicator soldier build I use on page 5.

http://social.biowar...index/1649502/1


PS:  I highly reccomend Warp ammo over tungsten.  Being able to unload on barriers is way more valuable than a little extra damage. 

Personally, I use squad incendiary, squad disruptor, heavy warp ammo, heightened adrenaline rush (for +140% weapon damage bonus), commando, and I focus on the Widow and the Vindicator.

Modifié par implodinggoat, 06 avril 2010 - 11:21 .


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padaE

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This is a major question. The one I'm trying to solve right now, I'm starting a playthrough with the first option. The second one has been dealt with.

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Just a note, the first build is impossible, so I pick Tungster Ammo + Squad Cryo Ammo.

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Thanks everyone.





So... am I better off as an Infiltrator if I wanted to play as a sniper?

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Confucius08

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TheBestclass wrote...

Thanks everyone.


So... am I better off as an Infiltrator if I wanted to play as a sniper?


haha another pretty heated topic :D I personally haven't played as an infiltrator but from what I've heard the soldier can deliver higher damage with AR but the Infiltrator has Time slowdown with every scope. I think its really pretty even. The main difference I see is that the infiltrator is much more specialized at its job, but the soldier comes close and has a bit more versatility if the enemy happens to get close. So it depends, if you want to be strictly sniper the infiltrator is probably the better choice (although you don't have to play as a sniper infiltrator) and if you want to play as with a sniper emphasis rather than sniper only soldier is probably better

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padaE wrote...

This is a major question. The one I'm trying to solve right now, I'm starting a playthrough with the first option. The second one has been dealt with.
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Just a note, the first build is impossible, so I pick Tungster Ammo + Squad Cryo Ammo.


Explain how the first build is impossible, please. I'm not seeing it.

As for Squad Cryo, I find it a waste of points. Mainly because maxing it out requires spending 5 points just to get access to it, plus another 10 points to max it out. I'd rather use the 5 points for something useful.

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swk3000 wrote...

padaE wrote...

This is a major question. The one I'm trying to solve right now, I'm starting a playthrough with the first option. The second one has been dealt with.
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Just a note, the first build is impossible, so I pick Tungster Ammo + Squad Cryo Ammo.


Explain how the first build is impossible, please. I'm not seeing it.

As for Squad Cryo, I find it a waste of points. Mainly because maxing it out requires spending 5 points just to get access to it, plus another 10 points to max it out. I'd rather use the 5 points for something useful.

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My mistake, I read it wrong, with Squad Cryo Ammo... that is the best squad ammo power IMO.
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Anyway, I picked the second choice.... I started playing with a Soldier with the Vindicator and Widow and it's just don't match my expectations as how a soldier should play. I use the Vindicator with my engineering though. Works perfectly. 

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I won't argue about Squad Cryo, as I haven't used it, but having to waste 5 points to get at Cryo Ammo seems like a waste to me. Especially since you're going with Tungsten Ammo, so you're not using Incendiary or Disruptor Ammo.