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blackashes411 wrote...

Did anybody choose to destroy the grey box because you thought it was best to follow what Keiji said? And why? I chose to destroy the grey box.

Nope. I let her keep it.

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Am I the only one who thinks that maybe Kasumi's interest in Jacob is a good thing if Shepard is interested in her?
I view Kasumi's crush as more of a rebound thing. I think she's trying to force herself to move on, and as a result, a physical attraction to Jacob has turned into a larger crush than she would have had otherwise. If they were to get together, I rather suspect the relationship wouldn't last very long, that it would be more of a typical rebound fling. Ironically, this would be fitting for Jacob, as well, as I don't think he has quite gotten over Miranda and might be in more of a "rebound" mode himself.
If Shepard really is interested in Kasumi, I suspect he doesn't want to be the rebound boyfriend. So, I'm thinking it might actually be better to let nature take its course with Jacob and Kasumi. Shepard can wait until Kasumi has finally moved on and is actually ready for another long term relationship.
I should note: I say all of this as a Kasumi fan who has no plans to romance Kasumi, even if she is available. My Shepards tend to stay loyal to their ME1 love interest.

^^ Good points, however if Kasumi and Jacob got together I don't think Bioware would break them up, then allow Shepard to romance her.


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I think Kasumi's crush on Jacob is genuine. It shows the crew can actually interact with each other and that Jacob isn't as terrible as everyone makes him out to be as a character.

I don't mind it being just a crush, and I would love Bioware to implement more 'in-depth' crew / squad interaction, but I think Kasumi deserves much better than Jacob...

Though I wouldn't mind if Bioware did something like this in ME3:
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IF Shepard didn't romance Miranda = Jacob romances Miranda (there still seems to be something between them, imo).
IF Shepard romanced Miranda = Jacob romances Kasumi.
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It would be interesting to see consequences for how your Shepard interacts and what he / she does with crew / squadmates.


Shadow_Soul wrote...
A new Kasumi fanfic. Her Face 

^^ Yet another good read, nice work :D.


blackashes411 wrote...
Did anybody choose to destroy the grey box because you thought it was best to follow what Keiji said? And why? I chose to destroy the grey box. 

Sorry if this has been brought up. It's kinda hard to search for answers when they're probably hidden in the many pages of this thread.

It was brought up about 3 (maybe 4) months ago, but a lot of Kasumi fans have moved on, and we have new people to discuss with...so, no need to apologise :)

For my Paragon Shep, I let her keep the Greybox.  
Reason - This Shep was a paragon.
For my main Shep, I made her destroy it.  
Reason - She would need to go into hiding (and may be hunted for the secrets contained in the greybox), and she might not get over Keiji's death (which she needs to).

Plus, my lonely Shepard wants her to himself :devil::lol:.  

Modifié par Noble 6, 08 janvier 2011 - 12:55 .


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blackashes411 wrote...

Did anybody choose to destroy the grey box because you thought it was best to follow what Keiji said? And why? I chose to destroy the grey box.

Sorry if this has been brought up. It's kinda hard to search for answers when they're probably hidden in the many pages of this thread.


My canon Shepard destroys it for her.

It's a difficult decision.  My Shepard is a paragon, who feels that people should be held responsible for their actions.  As such, a large part of him wanted to keep the greybox so it could be used to expose wrong doing.

However, he opted against keeping it for these reasons, which are ranked in order of least importance to most importance in Shepard's mind:

1. He's an Alliance loyalist, and the information would have been bad for the Alliance.

2.  It's what Keiji wanted.

3.  He didn't want to have to deal with people coming after Kasumi for the greybox when the crew needed to be focused on the mission.

4.  He felt like having Kasumi keep it would essentially be throwing her under the bus, as it would put her in danger for the foreseeable future.

5.  He felt that Kasumi needs to move on emotionally, and that it's unlikely she can do so with easy access to Keiji's memories.

6.  The information on the greybox could potentially drive a wedge between the Alliance and the rest of the galaxy at the very time when it's important for the galaxy to cooperate to take on the Reapers.

Number 6 is the most important reason, really.  Yeah, my Shepard feels that governments should be held accountable and that history should know the truth.  But he's also haunted by the reapers.  The thought of what could happen if the greybox info got out and humanity is divided from the rest of the galaxy at a critical time was a bit too much for him.

Modifié par DWH1982, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:57 .


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DWH1982 wrote...

blackashes411 wrote...

Did anybody choose to destroy the grey box because you thought it was best to follow what Keiji said? And why? I chose to destroy the grey box.

Sorry if this has been brought up. It's kinda hard to search for answers when they're probably hidden in the many pages of this thread.


My canon Shepard destroys it for her.

It's a difficult decision.  My Shepard is a paragon, who feels that people should be held responsible for their actions.  As such, a large part of him wanted to keep the greybox so it could be used to expose wrong doing.

However, he opted against keeping it for these reasons, which are ranked in order of least importance to most importance in Shepard's mind:

1. He's an Alliance loyalist, and the information would have been bad for the Alliance.

2.  It's what Keiji wanted.

3.  He didn't want to have to deal with people coming after Kasumi for the greybox when the crew needed to be focused on the mission.

4.  He felt like having Kasumi keep it would essentially be throwing her under the bus, as it would put her in danger for the foreseeable future.

5.  He felt that Kasumi needs to move on emotionally, and that it's unlikely she can do so with easy access to Keiji's memories.

6.  The information on the greybox could potentially drive a wedge between the Alliance and the rest of the galaxy at the very time when it's important for the galaxy to cooperate to take on the Reapers.

Number 6 is the most important reason, really.  Yeah, my Shepard feels that governments should be held accountable and that history should know the truth.  But he's also haunted by the reapers.  The thought of what could happen if the greybox info got out and humanity is divided from the rest of the galaxy at a critical time was a bit too much for him.


I stand by all those reasons. All are exactly my reasoning for that decision as well; Ultimately, for the safety and wellbeing of Kasumi, and, on a larger scale, protect the Alliance. Especially #5, as a friend, my Shepard thought it was the right things to do.

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I honestly don't know why people are bothered by Kasumi being interested in Jacob. IMO, it makes Kasumi more interesting that she isn't relegated to LI status for Shepard, instead chosing to be friends with him. Save for Samara, none of the females really come close to being close friends with a MaleShep, so I'd actually prefer for Kasumi to stay as she is now.



Plus I found her Haiku about Jacob to be rather amusing.

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Okay, well I'm have something written up fot you all. It's not very long, but tell me what you think and enjoy:



Kasumi stripped off her suit and turned the shower on. She stepped into the water, letting it soak over her whole body, helping her to relax. She let the water run off her as she leaned against the wall, blinking her eyes, the water masking her tears.



She stayed like that for over ten minutes, then turned off the water and wrapped a towel over her body and drying off then drying her hair. She ran a brush through her long black hair, making sure it was smooth without tangles. She put on her on the main part of her clothing then opened the bag that had her make-up in it then took it out. She put on her lipstick last, slowly putting it on her lower lip and right under part of her mouth. She turned when the door hissed open.



Her pace sped up as she made her way to her room, closing the door. She sat on the couch and bit her lower lip. She clipped the hood back on, then was about to pull up her hood but didn't. Kasumi pulled her hair back and out of her face, clipping it into a neat bob onto her head. She starred at her hands, the gloves were sitting next to her. Her eyes just gazed at the tattoo she had on her right hand. It was a rose that wrapped up her arm. It matched the one Keiji had gotten, she had gotten it because he had one.

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Noble 6 wrote...

It was brought up about 3 (maybe 4) months ago, but a lot of Kasumi fans have moved on, and we have new people to discuss with...so, no need to apologise :)

Yep, new people from Steam Xmas sales ;)

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Anyone know how long it's been since Keiji's death when you recruit Kasumi..? It's hard to see whether she's still mourning or not.

The crush on Jacob kinda shows she has moved on, though.. But I still wonder how long it's been since Keiji died.

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Darth Quater wrote...

Anyone know how long it's been since Keiji's death when you recruit Kasumi..? It's hard to see whether she's still mourning or not.
The crush on Jacob kinda shows she has moved on, though.. But I still wonder how long it's been since Keiji died.


The Mass Effect Wiki article for Keiji Okuda doesn't give a date for his death.  That makes me think we really don't know when he died.

To be honest, I always got the impression that he was killed more recently, perhaps within the last year or even within the last six months.  I've always felt that the intensity of Kasumi's crush on Jacob is the result of her pushing herself to move on, though others disagree with me on that.  Also, her crush aside, Kasumi never really seemed entirely like she has moved on, at least to me.

The fact that Hock is still hammering away at the greybox, and that Kasumi hasn't attempted to steal it back yet, also indicates to me that Keiji's death is more recent.  If it had been a few years, I suspect Kasumi would have found someone else to help her and made an attempt at stealing the greybox before we meet up with her.  It just doesn't seem to me like she'd sit around for too long with that greybox in Hock's hands.

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DWH1982 wrote...

To be honest, I always got the impression that he was killed more recently, perhaps within the last year or even within the last six months. [...] Also, her crush aside, Kasumi never really seemed entirely like she has moved on, at least to me.


That's funny, because I'm quite the opposite.
To me, because of her witty comments and the way she speaks, it feels like she's completely moved on. Though when you ask her about Keiji when you recruit her, she sounds a little down (of course). But then again, Kasumi is
a hard person to read. Kelly even says that when you've just recruited her. 

DWH1982 wrote...

The fact that Hock is still hammering away at the greybox, and that Kasumi hasn't attempted to steal it back yet, also indicates to me that Keiji's death is more recent.  If it had been a few years, I suspect Kasumi would have found someone else to help her and made an attempt at stealing the greybox before we meet up with her.  It just doesn't seem to me like she'd sit around for too long with that greybox in Hock's hands.


Good point! It's very likely she would try to get someone else to help her, if he died a year ago or so. It looks like Shepard came in perfect timing then.

I just thought of something..
What will happen if you get Jacob killed in the Suicide Mission, recruit Kasumi after the Mission and then do the Lair of the Shadow Broker? Will the haiku still be there.. and will it mention Jacob?

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Darth Quater wrote...

I just thought of something..
What will happen if you get Jacob killed in the Suicide Mission, recruit Kasumi after the Mission and then do the Lair of the Shadow Broker? Will the haiku still be there.. and will it mention Jacob?


Heh.  Good question.  The thought never occured to me.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect it would still show up.  I'm guessing Bioware probably gambeled that most people will recruit Kasumi before the suicide mission.

Anyone want to play through the suicide mission without recruiting Kasumi just to test this...? Image IPB

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DWH1982 wrote...
Anyone want to play through the suicide mission without recruiting Kasumi just to test this...? Image IPB

Of course not :P

I'm on second playthrough and just got to Omega. Will recruit those two guys (need Mordin for upgrades) and then to Citadel to meet Kasumi :wub:

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Currently working on a Kasumi pic...if all works out as I hope I'll be able to add some small effects and slight animations with Flash.

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 09 janvier 2011 - 10:06 .


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She stole mah kill! :pinched: :o
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Shadow_Soul wrote...
*Snip awesome block of text*

As you said, its a tad short, but good :D. Yet again nice work.
I imagined Kasumi to have a small tattoo somewhere, but never thought of it being a rose...I think a rose would suit her.


Captain Iglo wrote...
Currently working on a Kasumi pic...if all works out as I hope I'll be able to add some small effects and slight animations with Flash.

Oooo someone else working on Kasumi fan-art :o, can't wait :D.
Hmm, slight animation, I wonder what your up to...:bandit::D


Unkei wrote...
She stole mah kill! :pinched: :o
*snip cool screenshot*


Haha, that happens a lot (well, for me anyway) :lol:.

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Noble 6 wrote...

Unkei wrote...
She stole mah kill! :pinched: :o
*snip cool screenshot*


Haha, that happens a lot (well, for me anyway) :lol:.


Inorite? :D

I guess firendly fire is off, no? Haven't really noticed :?

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Noble 6 wrote...
As you said, its a tad short, but good :D. Yet again nice work.
I imagined Kasumi to have a small tattoo somewhere, but never thought of it being a rose...I think a rose would suit her.


I figured a rose, since she used to replace what she stole with a single red rose. And that it was sort of romantic, if you will, so Kasumi and Keiji, as a couple, would have someting like that. But, glad you like it, Noble 6.

Oh, and I have a question for you..I am a fan of your  Kasumi/DudeShep art, and wanted to ask if you ever planned one with Kasumi/FemShep as BFFs. If not, would you? I always figured them to be really good friends...Image IPB If not, then nevermind.

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Bump!



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It's probably been posted here before - I found it on the wiki. But I found it and thought "hey, why not!"

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Shadow_Soul wrote...
Oh, and I have a question for you..I am a fan of your  Kasumi/DudeShep art, and wanted to ask if you ever planned one with Kasumi/FemShep as BFFs. If not, would you? I always figured them to be really good friends...Image IPB If not, then nevermind.


Never really thought about doing one, but I would be more than happy to give it a go :D (probably start on it this weekend).

I was thinking about using one of these hairstyles
Link 1,  Link 2,  Link3
Any preference?

And, any preference on what hair colour Femshep should have ?

Darth Quater wrote...
It's probably been posted here before - I found it on the wiki. But I found it and thought "hey, why not!"
*snip*

^^ Nice pic ^_^
Btw, I'm pretty sure that pic hasn't been posted before. 

Modifié par Noble 6, 11 janvier 2011 - 06:52 .


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Work in Progress...*ugh* will take me ages again to finish.

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Modifié par Captain Iglo, 11 janvier 2011 - 10:38 .


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^^Woah... Looks promising! Can't wait!

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Work in Progress...*ugh* will take me ages again. to finish

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Pretty good! I like it! I'd like to see it finished.

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All i know is that bioware REALLY should put some dialogs for their DLC characters... Especialy for a such wonderful character like kasumi (dont care for zaeed tho that chara could die dont care..most lame dlc chara ever made)thats why she's hard to read i think...put soem dialogs so we can understand things about her and ofc PUT HER IN ME3 in the MAIN squad TEAM!!!! we love kasumi

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@Noble 6

Awesome, I think you should use #2, and maybe brown.



@Captain Iglo

Awesome! I can't wait to see the rest!!!