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Leliana's Torture?


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#101
Sarah1281

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Aisynia wrote...

BULL****.

Talk to Liselle.

"The chevalier are knights of the highest order. They are the most skilled in the world, their discipline formidable. For their service they are allowed...privileges. They can do whatever they want to the lesser-born."

I can't imagine that it's officially approved, especially in a society that holds itself up as a pinnacle of civilization. It's probably just well understood that no one is going to bother stopping the chevaliers.

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Meliorist13

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Well if they are permitted liberties that the ordinary citizen has no right too, I'd call that "state" (as in Chevalier or Orlesian) sanctioned.

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Liselle says that she attracted the attentions of a chevalier. "It was his right, but it was unwelcome."
So yes, it seems to be the right of chevaliers to have whoever they want.
Given the sort of stuff that goes on in Stolen Throne, I don't think you can honestly say the Orlesians are civilised. They are barbarians hiding behind fancy masks and courtly manners.

Modifié par CalJones, 15 avril 2010 - 03:10 .


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OldMan91

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Well if they are permitted liberties that the ordinary citizen has no right too, I'd call that "state" (as in Chevalier or Orlesian) sanctioned.




There's a difference between "state sponsored" and "state sanctioned". I was only saying that state sponsoring would be inaccurate, since then the "state" (if we can call it state in the modern sense, which we can't since it's a feudal society) would actually encourage (financially or otherwise) Chevaliers to rape "low born" citizens.



State sanctioning would be more accurate.

#105
Aisynia

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OldMan91 wrote...

Well if they are permitted liberties that the ordinary citizen has no right too, I'd call that "state" (as in Chevalier or Orlesian) sanctioned.


There's a difference between "state sponsored" and "state sanctioned". I was only saying that state sponsoring would be inaccurate, since then the "state" (if we can call it state in the modern sense, which we can't since it's a feudal society) would actually encourage (financially or otherwise) Chevaliers to rape "low born" citizens.

State sanctioning would be more accurate.


You are the only one here who has used the word "sponsored", so I'm not sure why you're even bringing it up. On the other hand, if your aim is to argue against yourself, I'll watch :P

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OldMan91

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Gah, you're right. I thought you had written "sponsored". Nevermind my previous posts then. Orlais definitely sanctions Chevaliers with a number of privileges, among them rape of lower class citizens.