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I think BioWare thought it would be really cool and that the fans would have fun and they'd get tons of free advertising to boot, but then there were legal issues and forum-fits and what was supposed to be fun became alot more like a headache and a chore for them, and I find that sad.



You know, most companies sell you things, give spotty customer service and only care about you when you are about to buy something new and don't think about you again until you are ringing up a new purchase.



I understand being upset if you can't participate, but seriously some people expect BioWare to deliver them the sun and the moon and new DLC for free because gosh darn it we bought a game from them once and they owe us!!



*shakes head*

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That's the issue I have Sar. Yeah everyone is their advertising dollies, however, they don't really owe us much of anything. They created this event and it's a contest. Not everyone is guaranteed to get a thing. It sucks but that's how contests work.

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I like bioware but this is bull I even bought every game and got only 6020 I don't have a twitter so I don't use it and now I don't even have a chance to bid because every auction is above 9000 1 second in is plain stupid

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Just venting somewhat not trying to offend anyone

Modifié par Drommie, 07 avril 2010 - 02:04 .


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SarEnyaDor

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Not offended, just venting back - maybe it is a generation gap, but in MY day we didn't expect to get things for nothing, and when we did we were thankful, not upset we didn't get more or it wasn't the right color as we walked up the hill to school in a snowstorm.

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I am not upset and I am thankful for bioware has done cause their games rock and I have bought all their dlc's and support them I just venting over these people who have like 16,000 which is insane and how some people are winning multiply auctions when I cant even bid on a book

Modifié par Drommie, 07 avril 2010 - 02:10 .


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@SarEnyaDor



This isn't a **** session about 'not getting something for free'. This is a matter of how the community event got spoiled. Look at your sig, have you even gotten a bid into an auction? HAve you found the auction, or the auction thread more fun? I would have much more fun if i had a chance to bid, regardless if I won or not.

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SarEnyaDor wrote...

Not offended, just venting back - maybe it is a generation gap, but in MY day we didn't expect to get things for nothing, and when we did we were thankful, not upset we didn't get more or it wasn't the right color as we walked up the hill to school in a snowstorm.


Have you ever been to Gaia Online? The creators of the website were in college when I was. I was there pretty much from the beginning to see where it came from and how it's evolved. They try every single year to create holiday events to reward their users. Guess what? The kids complain each and every year.

They extend the Halloween and Christmas candy and candy cane hunts almost two weeks past the holiday because children swear, "We don't have enough time to get them all!". Two Halloweens ago was the kicker for me. They had a Vampire Versus Human event and more than half the kids complained because they "Have lives and school and pets! We can't take the time out to wait a few minutes for the link to come up to hit someone with a sword!"

Right.

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Mahngiel

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Events are supposed to be fun. Let's look at a math equation.



Fun < Auction = Flop


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As I have said before, BioWare was better off to have had a game announcement on hand when that countdown timer hit zero.

I think some people are complaining a little too much... but of course these sorts of events usually leave the majority of people with a sour taste on their tongues.

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I stayed up all night chatting with other people who probably won't win anything either and we had fun together. *shrugs* If you want to look at it like a competition that you are losing then you won't have fun. If you look at it as a chance to win something cool just for showing up it is really fun.



Obviously I can't fill your glass, but my sig was my sig before this event, I just added the link functionality in case anyone wanted to click it. Bonus for me if they do. I'm not running around spamming every thread I'm in asking people to click, though I am clicking a crapload of people in the two threads where links are being exchanged. I'm also going to try and Tweet myself some points if I can, and if I don't win I don't win.



As the people who got some posters, or hoodies or a PC if they are having fun, I bet the answer is yes. And I bet you alot of people beside me in the auction thread who have been trying to win but haven't yet will say they are having fun, too.



If it isn't fun to you don't participate. Rather simple, really.

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I think the auction was a great idea, but was done poorly, the bid system is my problem, it should be IRL style where you have to keep bidding not throw all your chips down at the start, that and lose the bundles. If it was just one shirt/book/sword. Bids would be lower and everyone would have a chance.



That's just me




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Mahngiel

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Arsenal0602 wrote...

I think the auction was a great idea, but was done poorly, the bid system is my problem, it should be IRL style where you have to keep bidding not throw all your chips down at the start, that and lose the bundles. If it was just one shirt/book/sword. Bids would be lower and everyone would have a chance.

That's just me

+1
This seems to be the voice of the majority.

Modifié par Mahngiel, 07 avril 2010 - 02:37 .


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Personally, I think maybe bioware should take the last day of prizes and do a raffle, 100 points per entry for people who have points left and didn't win anything.



Yeah you would have a shot in a million, but for those of us that didn't spam cheat the system its more of a shot then we have now.

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there are 480 prizes, a few thousand people, why woudlnt you toss everything into one basket, no one is going to win more then once, because invitable the person that tossing everything in wins, and the 480 highest pointed people willl win basicly, may a few slow downs. Im hoping to crack 9,000 and get a computer, if not crack 8k and get some comics or a jack lithograph

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PSRdirector wrote...

there are 480 prizes, a few thousand people, why woudlnt you toss everything into one basket, no one is going to win more then once, because invitable the person that tossing everything in wins, and the 480 highest pointed people willl win basicly, may a few slow downs. Im hoping to crack 9,000 and get a computer, if not crack 8k and get some comics or a jack lithograph


Wow, you have pipe dreams to think you'll win a computer with 9k tokens.  And BTW, some people have won twice according to other posters.

Modifié par Mahngiel, 07 avril 2010 - 02:53 .


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9k won't get a PC. People have A- made mult accts and maxed link clicks or have mass points and are waiting for the PCs. Like I was for the N7 stuff before learning I was poor in the points



Http://social.bioware.com/brc/52613

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I agree, I was really excited about the auction having about 4000 tokens thinking that i could get something cool for registering all my games, at this point I can't even get a coffee mug or poster?? http://social.bioware.com/brc/1275615

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I just received an email from Square-Enix telling me that because I registered my FFXIII game that they are going to send me FFXIII themed postcards and a daily calendar. Something cheesy like that would have served BioWare well instead of this mess.

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SarEnyaDor wrote...

If it isn't fun to you don't participate. Rather simple, really.


Umm...I would point out that I was personally neutral toward the whole thing until people having "fun" decided to spam wildly, turning every thread into their personal spam box, dragging BioWare's name through the mud by getting hordes of people banned at other sites for spamming, etc.  I'm being FORCED to "participate" by having to wade through thread after thread after thread of people exchanging links, and of people derailing anything else to go back to their point totals. 

Signatures and the occasional link exchange threads are one thing.  Perfectly acceptable.   Set up a group or private thread to exchange links?  Whatever floats your boat.   But the rest of this is NOT a matter of just not participating.    It's bordering on truly obnoxious, now.  Sorry.  I don't know how many points I have; I don't care.  I was peachy keen on not participating and letting other people do whatever it is they wanna do until the results got splattered all over everything.  Bleah.  I sincerely hope they never do anything remotely similar again.

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It was pretty easy to participate and actually took very little effort or time. If you registered all your games, posted your link in the link topics which takes all of 5 seconds, you would easily be above 9k points by now. Fun auction and Bioware is giving us free lewts. Why the hate?

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AshedMan wrote...

I just received an email from Square-Enix telling me that because I registered my FFXIII game that they are going to send me FFXIII themed postcards and a daily calendar. Something cheesy like that would have served BioWare well instead of this mess.


Really?

Now I need to remember what email I used to register FFXIII....

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Mahngiel wrote...

I was entusiastic about this bioware auction.  I own titles as far back (for me) as Baldur's Gate up to Mass Effect 2.  I have registered all my games and got my few tokens.  Ha, I even downloaded the Dragon Age Character Builder for a few more points, even though that program was released as a promo video really.  So I sat happy with my 5950 points, thinking I was going to have a shot at atleast some fun. :whistle:

What this auction has turned into is a social networking "who can get the most people to click my link" contest, which even spoiled the Official Auction Thread - turning it from "hey guys, good luck, let's have some fun" to "WTF!?! 14k tokens? I ain't going to win ****! Here, Click my link so I can stand a chance to bid!"  I don't know about you, but that kind of defeats the purpose, does it not? 

You see, I could get past this if the auction were even the SLIGHTEST bit fun.  The first auction went reasonably well, with at least a decent progression in bids; however, from there, all hell broke loose. The second bid went from 10 to 1000 to 6690 in three bids that took a whopping 14 seconds, 8 seconds later it was over 9,000.  Now, you can't even refresh a page long enough before it's over the casual title-owner's limit.

So my questions are these:

A: Is this even fun?
B: How is this rewarding the many loyal Bioware title fans
C: Why the hell are people bidding every token to start the auction?
D: Was this event actually planned out? If so, I would hope there is a marketing employment vacancy soon.
E: Is it possible to actually fix this before it get so FUBAR'd that people lose interest alltogether.

If the Mods are capable of sifting through the link-spam that has become of the "Official Auction Thread" and pulling out many novel suggestions and even half-assed attempting to implement them, that would be A+.  I mean, hell, they realized we couldn't tell if that was an image of a HDD on a T-Shirt, or a T-Shirt and a HDD.

So, let this rant die, or do something with it, IDC.  I just think this was a great event poorly planned and it pissed off a lot of people with the expectation of having a bit of fun.

--Thanks for reading.

i don't stand a chance either, but come on. it's free stuff. people are going to act different when nothing is on the line. big deal. you don't get any freebies. if that's the worst you ever deal with, your life will be golden. complaining that you can't win free stuff comes off as selfish, childish, and a bit whiny.

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Basically it's tuned into me watching everything I'll never have. Fun. No. Not really.

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Mahngiel wrote...

@SarEnyaDor

This isn't a **** session about 'not getting something for free'. This is a matter of how the community event got spoiled. Look at your sig, have you even gotten a bid into an auction? HAve you found the auction, or the auction thread more fun? I would have much more fun if i had a chance to bid, regardless if I won or not.

spoiled is the key word, but not for the reason you use it for.