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[RyneOnLive]

Garrus

[Darthnemesis2]

Garrus, no hesitation. Miranda can claim XO on her taxes all she wants, but Garrus is always the one who leads the fire team.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Garrus is my second in command, though I let Miranda think she is.

[Nightwriter]

Crane's right and Tali is god's gift to engineering. Every time she picks up a wrench a golden beam of sunlight falls down on it from above and a heavenly choir picks up in the background.

But Qwepir is right in that Tali's probably not absolutely essential to the ship. A damn good asset, but not absolutely essential.

But then, who IS, on the Normandy? Nobody, really.

[SirEmilCrane]

Nightwriter wrote...

Crane's right and Tali is god's gift to engineering. Every time she picks up a wrench a golden beam of sunlight falls down on it from above and a heavenly choir picks up in the background.

<_<

Nightwriter wrote...
But Qwepir is right in that Tali's probably not absolutely essential to the ship. A damn good asset, but not absolutely essential.

But then, who IS, on the Normandy? Nobody, really.

No one is really essential, I'm just saying that she is a really good engineer, and currently the normandy's chief engineer

the only essential ones are Shepard and EDI

[gutty47]

I find it funny that people put an alien as the XO on a ship full of possible anti-alien subordinates. Way to maximise their motivation.

[Koen Casier]

First place Garrus
Second place The Joker/Unshackled EDI combo (at least onboard the Normandy)

As for Miranda she is a too much of an over overconfident pencil pusher. The Illusive Man might have made her the "official" XO anybody who spend any amount of time on the Normandy would know who my Shepard regards as his second in command, and who is there to file the paperwork.

[InvaderErl]

Miranda is my Shep's second in command but Garrus is his trusted friend and go to man.

[wulf3n]

imho, no one. Hell even commander shepard doesn't seem to have any skill or sense when it comes to ship to ship combat. What the hell is shepard doing when the normandy comes under attack from the collecters? when we see him he's below the bridge putting out fires!, the xo of a ship should be on the bridge at a time like that.



Why is shepard even in charge of the Normandy? isn't he a Marine?



If your talking about ground based missions...then yeah probably garrus or jacob, they've got both the skills and the moral persuasion to command a squad succesfully

[InvaderErl]

wulf3n wrote...

imho, no one. Hell even commander shepard doesn't seem to have any skill or sense when it comes to ship to ship combat. What the hell is shepard doing when the normandy comes under attack from the collecters? when we see him he's below the bridge putting out fires!, the xo of a ship should be on the bridge at a time like that.

He wasn't on the bridge when the attack started/sending distress call.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Unfortunately Miranda as she handles the reports.



In the Final Mission though I promoted Garrus to that spot.

[Xaijin]

gutty47 wrote...

I find it funny that people put an alien as the XO on a ship full of possible anti-alien subordinates. Way to maximise their motivation.

Nothing a little accidental sniping won't fix.

[wulf3n]

InvaderErl wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

imho, no one. Hell even commander shepard doesn't seem to have any skill or sense when it comes to ship to ship combat. What the hell is shepard doing when the normandy comes under attack from the collecters? when we see him he's below the bridge putting out fires!, the xo of a ship should be on the bridge at a time like that.

He wasn't on the bridge when the attack started/sending distress call.

he was 1 deck below the bridge, prepping a distress beacon, not something the captain should be doing.

[Mrs Vakarian]

Garrus for sure. He's the most experienced and skilled teammate there is. I never do a mission without him by my side.

[KomanderDrake]

Im trying to reach a consensus here but my other 1511 minds are still communicating at the speed of light trying to decide which is right... they keep on telling me Im too slow because my aural interface is too inefficient... Yea f*** that, their click sounds are too " un-understandable" too.



The point Im trying to make, is when you can think of something lightning fast and do it well and quick, and you have the best vocabulary and quickest way of explaining complicated things... you got a leader right there. I just went through everything that makes Legion a good leader. If I could only bring ANY 2 dudes into the suicide mission w/o anyone else to back me up... Id bring Garrus and Wrex and I'd kill everyone else in my crew just to be able to bring Legion. Garrus and Wrex were my dream Team in ME1 and we seemed to turn a lot of heads when we'd walk thru the citadel in our Urban Camo Colossus X armor (not the best armor, I know, but finding the Predator X for MY Shepard took 3.1 playthroughs and I dont even want to know how much it would take to find the equivalents for GV and UW). Its not just style but I seemed to be able to end the racial hate between both of them at halfway on each playthrough. When you look at it, theyre the perfect squad. If you could bring all 4 of them into play, you would have 1 quick sniper, 1 4x deadly sniper (Geth "Widow Maker", best gun in the game), Sheppar with the Machine Gun (my soldier got it... I was tempted towards the Widow but thought that on my next playthrough... that didnt go soo well for me) and Wrex with all powerful biotics and the Claymore (hell, he'd probably be able to hold 2 of em).



So my list goes as follows...



Undecided between Garrus and Wrex

Legion

Miranda

Tali (hey, shes getting nominated for Admiral... give her a break)

EDI... duh(*joke)

[InvaderErl]

wulf3n wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

imho, no one. Hell even commander shepard doesn't seem to have any skill or sense when it comes to ship to ship combat. What the hell is shepard doing when the normandy comes under attack from the collecters? when we see him he's below the bridge putting out fires!, the xo of a ship should be on the bridge at a time like that.

He wasn't on the bridge when the attack started/sending distress call.

he was 1 deck below the bridge, prepping a distress beacon, not something the captain should be doing.

The Collectors hardly allowed time for proper chain of command to take effect. The beacon needed sending, Shepard did it. The Normandy was immediately crippled and what 2 MAYBE 3 minutes pass between the first shot and the ship being destroyed. It wasn't like Shep was lounging in the cafeteria eating pudding during an attack that was dragging on for an hour.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 07 avril 2010 - 07:15 .

[wulf3n]

InvaderErl wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

imho, no one. Hell even commander shepard doesn't seem to have any skill or sense when it comes to ship to ship combat. What the hell is shepard doing when the normandy comes under attack from the collecters? when we see him he's below the bridge putting out fires!, the xo of a ship should be on the bridge at a time like that.

He wasn't on the bridge when the attack started/sending distress call.

he was 1 deck below the bridge, prepping a distress beacon, not something the captain should be doing.

The Collectors hardly allowed time for proper chain of command to take effect. The beacon needed sending, Shepard did it. The Normandy was immediately crippled and what 2 MAYBE 3 minutes pass between the first shot and the ship being destroyed. It wasn't like Shep was lounging in the cafeteria eating pudding during an attack that was dragging on for an hour.

He was just wasting time putting on his armour, when only him and Ashley/kaiden/Liara are wearing any???(didn't get that) and prepping/launching a distress beacon, which is something any of the normandy crew should have been able to do. The captains job is to command, not perform menial tasks any crewman could do, i understand he wasn't the officer on watch, but when the the ships getting attacked the captain usually takes over.

edit: Also, why put out fires, when theres nobody around, in a non critical area, when you've already decided to abandon ship, and then start to mess around with random cables and tubes just so you can have an intimate moment with your love interest? possibly

Modifié par wulf3n, 07 avril 2010 - 07:21 .

[KomanderDrake]

gutty47 wrote...

I find it funny that people put an alien as the XO on a ship full of possible anti-alien subordinates. Way to maximise their motivation.

Yes I also find its funny that quote
Garrus:"I think being part of the team that took down Saren gave me some points. Everyone here is nice to me"...

Theres your anti-alien hate.

Besides, the biggest members of the crew (Squadmates, Engineers Donnely and Daniels, Joker and Kelly) are all pro-aliens in my point of view. The biggest anti-alien Ive seen soo far is poor old Pressly, but even that changed with time.

Modifié par KomanderDrake, 07 avril 2010 - 07:23 .

[InvaderErl]

How much time even passes between the first shot and Shepard appearing. 30 seconds, a minute MAYBE? And the crew was busy getting killed by explosions. If the thing had dragged on for fifteen minutes and Shepard was fumbling with the controls I'd say sure, but we're talking about something that was over almost as quickly as it started.

[Massadonious1]

Kelly.

[Seanylegit]

I'm not a huge Garrus fan, but if I had to trust any 1 squad member the most, it's definitely him.

[wulf3n]

InvaderErl wrote...

How much time even passes between the first shot and Shepard appearing. 30 seconds, a minute MAYBE? And the crew was busy getting killed by explosions. If the thing had dragged on for fifteen minutes and Shepard was fumbling with the controls I'd say sure, but we're talking about something that was over almost as quickly as it started.

that doesn't change the fact that his decisions were still questionable, and definitely not  someone i would want in charge of a very expensive, state-of-the-art frigate

[Koen Casier]

gutty47 wrote...

I find it funny that people put an alien as the XO on a ship full of possible anti-alien subordinates. Way to maximise their motivation.

When Cerberus assembled the crew for the new Normandy they probably suspected that Shepard would be recruiting a lot of alien allies so they recruited more of the "human positive / advancement of the human species" part of the organization and not so many out of the "let's crush all non-humans / die die die, you alien scum" part of the organization.

[InvaderErl]

wulf3n wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

How much time even passes between the first shot and Shepard appearing. 30 seconds, a minute MAYBE? And the crew was busy getting killed by explosions. If the thing had dragged on for fifteen minutes and Shepard was fumbling with the controls I'd say sure, but we're talking about something that was over almost as quickly as it started.

that doesn't change the fact that his decisions were still questionable, and definitely not  someone i would want in charge of a very expensive, state-of-the-art frigate

Okay well, we'll have to disagree since he managed to save the majority of the crew (the Normandy was utterly doomed) but fair enough.

[GuardianAngel470]

Natali-Major_Momscream wrote...

I thought Miranda declared she was Shepard's 2nd in command when talking to Jack?

She did, but what she says on my ship has little consequence, and after I have gotten Garrus, Jack, and Mordin Miranda has no power on my ship.  She is outnumbered and outgunned.  All she does on my ship is write reports to the Illusive man.  She is an administrative aide on my Normandy.