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[Stephenc13]

Oogrooq wrote...

Stephenc13 wrote...

 Liara seemed the worst to me, she waaas important in the first ME but you found another Asari that could translate the cypher, if Saren recieved the cypher and used it properly, why couldn't Shepard?
And I also think Liara is overrated, even though her voice actress is gorgeous. But alien love... really?

I'd do her.

naahhh

Modifié par Stephenc13, 12 avril 2010 - 01:13 .

[Oogrooq]

Stephenc13 wrote...

Oogrooq wrote...

Stephenc13 wrote...

 Liara seemed the worst to me, she waaas important in the first ME but you found another Asari that could translate the cypher, if Saren recieved the cypher and used it properly, why couldn't Shepard?
And I also think Liara is overrated, even though her voice actress is gorgeous. But alien love... really?

I'd do her.

naahhh

You are too fussy.

Although, in saying this, she did annoy me a bit. But I still like her. I can't help it.

[FlintlockJazz]

AwesomeAuger wrote...

Pr0diigY wrote...

Damn I'm surprised no one has mention Morinth, she was the worst....seriously

I don't think many people even get Morinth. I agree though I don't like Morinth. Jack is my least favorite though.

About Morinth, I just can't see any in-character justification for choosing Morinth over Samara whether you are going pure Paragon or pure Renegade.  She tries to kill Shepard right from the get go, a renegade should be *putting on best gangsta voice* 'poppin' a cap in her arse' the first chance s/he gets just on principle.  If someone chooses Morinth then they really do deserve the LI result they get from that...

Anyway, Liara is my least liked character.  Miranda and Morinth actually are intended the way they are, and I did like Jacob at first, it was just over time that he started to rub me the wrong way and he started acting like a complete muppet.  Liara is just so damn boring, I don't get where people get the impression she's supposed to be some nerdy girl from (I know she's a scientist) since she doesn't come across that way, especially with her (dire and atrocious) VA who seems to be working from some other concept where Liara is some sort of Deanna Troi wannabe.  Its mainly her voice that ruins it, she sounds too pretentious and 'mystical' especially when you consider that all the other asari voices are done so much better than her's.

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 12 avril 2010 - 01:24 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Pr0diigY wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

AwesomeAuger wrote...

Pr0diigY wrote...

Damn I'm surprised no one has mention Morinth, she was the worst....seriously

I don't think many people even get Morinth. I agree though I don't like Morinth. Jack is my least favorite though.

About Morinth, I just can't see any in-character justification for choosing Morinth over Samara whether you are going pure Paragon or pure Renegade.  She tries to kill Shepard right from the get go, a renegade should be *putting on best gangsta voice* 'poppin' a cap in her arse' the first chance s/he gets just on principle.  If someone chooses Morinth then they really do deserve the LI result they get from that...

hahaha, I actually thought about that briefly, that the devs did that whole romance crap as big middle finger to your face for being a traitor as well as for the obvious, She is a freaking space vampire/demon!

Heh yeah, and the clueless look Shepard gets on his/her face when he 'consummates' the relationship is hilarious, I really do think they were having a bit of fun there.

[VA_FyreHeart]

Ok, call me weird, but I _LIKE_ Jacob. Granted, in a universe filled with larger than life characters like ME, Jacob comes off as a little bland, but a squad full of Jacobs would be a commanders dream.



I had issues with Liara in the first game. The new, bitter Liara is a bit of an improvement, but I'm still not sure I like her.



Miranda is an ice queen, but her loyalty mission adds some dimension to her, so I don't dislike her, but she's not my favorite.



But my all around least favorite character? The character I'd most like to slap? The character who would be ideal for Jedore's target-practice clones? Ambassador Udina.

[tonnactus]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

About Morinth, I just can't see any in-character justification for choosing Morinth over Samara whether you are going pure Paragon or pure Renegade.  She tries to kill Shepard right from the get go,

No.It was a hypnose,not a melt.Justification for a renegade:Her greater potential. She is as strong as her mother despite the fact she is so much younger. Paragon:Give her a chance to do something good and believe that she was forced in her role as a murdering "monster and disease" by her own race,without getting proper alternatives.

[Reaper27]

Tali. Can't stand her.

Modifié par Reaper27, 04 mai 2010 - 12:05 .

[Blackbaron15]

Jack because she was the most obvious LI in the damned game what with her "Iam an amazingley powerful **** that must utter a vulgarity ever 3 seconds" attitude it was pain stackingly obvious she was the one with a soft heart of gold on the inside!



Ashley is a fine soldier but her rascism will get her killed one day.



Jacob is Jacob

[Zenyattaa]

Jacob. I found his character dull. His loyalty mission would've been the same with or without him. He adds nothing in terms of depth.



If anything he a male version of Ashley with none of her redeeming qualities.(What precious few she has)

[Axeface]

Miranda.

I dont understand why people call her an 'Ice queen', sure she is referred by a couple of characters in-game as that, but she isnt. Sure she shot someone in the throat, but the voice just doesn't live up to the character design.

Sorry, but she's terrible. In fact, ME2 would have been better off without her.

Modifié par Axeface, 12 avril 2010 - 09:07 .

[tonnactus]

Axeface wrote...

Miranda.

I dont understand why people call her an 'Ice queen', sure she is referred by a couple of characters in-game as that, but she isnt. Sure she shot someone in the throat, but the voice just doesn't live up to the character design.

Sorry, but she's terrible. In fact, ME2 would have been better off without her.

Good that she will not be in any of my Mass Effect 3 playtrough.

[Valtor232]

None. I love them all

[spg007]

Probably Jack. Shes shaved bald, swears way to much and is always going on and on about Miranda being some stupid cheerleader and SAVING her team when Jack just wants to kill everyone she can.

[Siansonea]

Alestia Iallis on Noveria. Meditate on this...*Warp* *Singularity* *High Explosive Ammo*

[FFTARoxorz05]

Not having played the first one, Liara randomly changing careers made no sense. I get why she had to do it and it probably pays more, but would she seriously not drop it to be on the crew again?

Ashley is a close second for being generally retarded in ME2.  Again, didn't play the first one, but she'd definitely be deleted off my Shepard's facebook =P

Modifié par FFTARoxorz05, 13 avril 2010 - 01:49 .

[Tzarene]

Least Favorite Squad member:

Jacob. This is not a surprise. He was the hero in ME: Galaxy (played it on my iphone) and certainly played the part well enough there. In ME2, since I play mostly femshep, the interaction with him just seems so strange and passive/aggressive. His weapon armament (shotgun/pistol), biotic powers, clothing, and even loyalty mission were all comparatively uninteresting that he has to be the weakest link if I had to pick one. It's not that I hate the guy tho. Tali and Thane comes close but at least their loyalty/pickup missions were interesting.

Least Favorite non-squad member:

Udina if you played ME1 and default ME2 storyline.

Some comments on other people's picks:

Liara: While it is true that she wasn't very interesting in ME1, she does offer a lot of interesting perspectives (especially Illos) given her research background. Still offers more interesting interaction than Kaiden / Tali in the original game imo. In ME2, people bash on her new take/job, but I get the impression that people do not fully understand why because they forgot to click a carefully hidden option in the wheel (bottom left after doing both side assignments for her). Given that context, how can anyone not like Liara? At the minimum, that information should place another squad member as the least favorite character instead of her.
[Spoiler Alert] Here's a youtube link for that:

Miranda: From my impression of how much Miranda is cameoed in the game, it is pretty apparent that she was meant to be your XO, whether you like it or not. Heck, they killed off poor pressly so she can take that role. Her office is where your quarters were on the SR1. She can commandeer teams on the final mission and supposedly has plotwall protection (though I never had anyone die). I can go on but fact is that she was supposed to be the integral part of your team and given that, probably deserves a little more respect than what people are saying.

Lastly, these are just comments. Take it how you will but it is not my intent to start a flame war.

[ramdog7]

i hate tali and her fanbase

[almighty.zer]

jmsylol wrote...

That news reporter I was tempted to punch.

i knocked that **** out on my second playthrough haha

[2A92 Legion]

ramdog7 wrote...

i hate tali and her fanbase

Can you tell us why?

[Cascadus]

No one can explain why. These people hate Tali because she's popular and they want to be 'edgy' and 'different'.

And Liara is so bland, I can't take it. She's obvious and ridiculous fanservice, and it's completely unavoidable. I mean, in the first friggin' conversation she goes 'OH COMMANDER I THINK WE HAVE A CONNECTION' and then I want to be all like 'STFU I DON'T CARE I JUST WANT TO LEARN ABOUT YOUR CULTURE AND IF IT'S ACTUALLY LESS BLAND THAN IT SEEMS'.

[TJSolo]

I have two characters that are horrible for Mass Effect.
'E'
'A'
The list is shorter if we talk about strings.

Modifié par TJSolo, 04 mai 2010 - 02:16 .

[DoomedMello]

I have a five-way tie for most hated person: Miranda, Kaidan, Liara, Ashley, and Jacob. They are just all very unappealing to me, somehow.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Akinra wrote...

I'm with the OP about Liara. Her role in ME2 made no sense at all.

But my own least favourite would have to be Jacob. There's just nothing to him, he's a non-entity. He's just so dull and uninteresting. Jack would be a close second.

I suspect Liara's role made no sense because her involvement with the Shadow Broker will form a pretty major story arc in ME3.

Surprised that people dislike Kaiden as much as me


Samara - justicar code and characterisation was ace. 9/10. I liked Reave alot though I found she died more than others.

Jack - Characterisation was properly done. Side Note: a compassionate attitude often reveals alot about personalities like this to an observer. 8.5/10. Shockwave is a favourite though she dies a bit.

Legion - unique hive personality rendition, almost as good as the borg in star trek. 8/10. Solid sniper too.

Mordin - being prepared to kill gave Mordin unexpected depth. Alongside his snappy logic and singing voice he was very enertertaining. 8.5/10. Didnt use him alot.

Liara - She came on the scene when we first learnt about Asari and the ME1 love scene was tasteful. The ability for asari to make love as female and male adds depth to Liara and her darker side in ME2 is welcome 9/10. It was never a problem when I took her on missions, her powers were solid enough.

Joker - Just soooo good 10/10

Kasumi - Expert characterisation of this personality type, has hints of Tali-ness in presentation, but loyalty mission was expert and sound bites, voice acting and depth are all there 7.5/10. Love her powers and she doesnt die. I use her alot.

Thane - Has great history and backstory, he has edifying motives though not necessarily lovable, only lacks believability because his intelligence would have driven his morality towards son earlier. 7/10. Solid when in the squad.

Ash - Surprising well-intimated characterisation! Its not easy being a modern person where values are not necessarily what your family, heritage and their religion have fought for, but where you can't help but accept that not everyone is like you. Even with femShep Ash would flirt and tussle in subtle ways. 9/10. Can always take her when your Shep is not a Soldier.

Anderson - That he is annoyed with Shepherd for going to Cerberus doesnt quite show in ME2, he wasnt developed in ME2, In ME1 he was a force. Hope they highlight and develop him in ME3. ME1 - 8/10, ME2 - 6/10

EDI - Builds a relationship with Joker and learns to joke herself! One of the better AI characterisations in sci-fi history. Consistent and complete personality. 8/10

Tali - Her personality is sometimes homogenised, though "little sister with the hots for you" is probably the best description. Doesn't quite know what she is, and Bioware arent quite exactly sure either. 7/10 (As Quarian Princess she should probably be somewhat more forthright by nature). I didnt take her on the team that much.

Grunt - Boy Krogan witha fist of steel. Wrex was the eponymous Krogan but BW arent sure how to advance that personality type so they went back to the start. 6/10. Don't take him much - I miss Wrex.

Zaeed - Non-American Accent gives depth. History and backstory are pretty solid. Someone who you'd take if no one else is around. 6.5/10. I didnt take him alot though he always performed.

Garrus - Found him more interesting in ME1, in ME2 he was a bit more sentimental and softer. ME1 - 7.5/10, ME2 - 6/10. Good powers and good weapons. I used him a fair amount.

Jacob - Can i just say that I find it a bit fo a disgrace that people joke about not liking him because he's black. I'm not from the US but I don't really think you should show such flagrant disrespect to people. It's incredibly unkind and incredibly negative. A little kindness and respect goes a very long way. And they are not my country men but still i think some level of respect is appropriate!

Miranda - She seems to be a coherent personality rendition. Aussie accent adds variety. Not a fan of her attitude and once I had done her loyalty mission she didnt say much else. Not my favourite 5/10. Good powers and solid team member though.

Kaiden wins as least fav - Just came off as whiny too much. Might be a good rendition of this personality type but I lack patience in dealing with people like this so I'm not sure. 2/10. I'm not sure how he performs because I never took him and happily let him wear the yellow light armor that no one else needed in ME1. Whiner.

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 05 mai 2010 - 07:17 .