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[Ryzaki]

RyrineaNara wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...




SlimeGirm, you are not an anime fan I thin go type in the WORD YOAI in the search bar.

Yoai= GUY ON GUY

On the contrary: Gunslinger Girls, Samurai Champloo...both are among my favorite movies, period. I am very much an Anime fan.

Uh then you must have not met the Yaoi commutiny then lol.

*cringes* Oh god now I'm thinking about those crazy yaoi fangirls screaming hysterically and smacking people with paddles...

Why'd you go and make me relive my nightmares? 

[Siansonea]

KainrycKarr wrote...
Gay can be considered a genetic disorder based on the fact that what they do is not compatible by nature. What gay men do to satisfy each other is not what the human body was designed for. Doesn't make it wrong or evil...just not what those parts of the body were designed for.

Gay is counter-productive when it comes to reproduction, and therefore could be considered a disorder.

What's subjective, is whether or not the gay "disorder" is harmful enough to warrant action, or if it's simply one of the those side-effects of evolution being random.

I personally don't think it's the sort of disorder that requires action. Not unless like...50% of the population goes gay, which is very, very unlikely.

Bottom line, it's a genetic disorder, but not necessarily a problematic one.

I think everyone's getting a little over the top with what's homophobic and what's liberal. Just cool off...it's just a flippin video game.

Yours is a subjective viewpoint. Let me offer another. In the early stages of human development I would argue that homosexuality was actually beneficial. In most tribe-based species, male dominance and competition for breeding females can cause a great deal of harm to a tribe group, causing injury and death of males who could provide for the tribe in many ways. If some of the males in the tribe are homosexual, they are not challenging the other males for breeding females, and the tribe benefits from the presence of additional strong males without the necessity of coping with all the competition for breeding females. I can see how that improves the dynamic and viability of a primitive population. Far from being a mistake or a genetic disorder, I see it could easily be an evolutionary advantage.

It should also be noted that homosexuality is not unique to ****** sapiens. Other species exhibit this behavior as well. It has so far not led to any significant impact in population levels, if anything it helps keep population numbers more stable. Not every sexual union should result in offspring, this planet is crowded enough, thank you.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 08 avril 2010 - 07:31 .

[Ryzaki]

slimgrin wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...




SlimeGirm, you are not an anime fan I thin go type in the WORD YOAI in the search bar.

Yoai= GUY ON GUY

On the contrary: Gunslinger Girls, Samurai Champloo...both are among my favorite movies, period. I am very much an Anime fan.

Uh then you must have not met the Yaoi commutiny then lol.

Just looked it up. Big deal. It looks like it is targeted for woman, anyway. Certainly not as disturbing as some Lolli-Con.

*facepalms* Lolicon is child pedophila in animated form. Of course its not as disturbing.  

Then again..there is shoutacon.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 avril 2010 - 07:31 .

[KainrycKarr]

Lamiea wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...
Gay can be considered a genetic disorder based on the fact that what they do is not compatible by nature.

Actually, no, that is not correct.

Gay sex between two men = you know what it is. The hole is not designed by nature for that purpose. Therefore, not compatible.


Please distinguish what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying that by nature, it is considered a disorder, abnormal, unnatural.

This does not make it wrong. I am just explaining.

[ImperialOperative]

People who say they watch Yaoi for the loving relationships are like people who say they read playboy for the great articles.

[RyrineaNara]

Ryzaki wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...




SlimeGirm, you are not an anime fan I thin go type in the WORD YOAI in the search bar.

Yoai= GUY ON GUY

On the contrary: Gunslinger Girls, Samurai Champloo...both are among my favorite movies, period. I am very much an Anime fan.

Uh then you must have not met the Yaoi commutiny then lol.

*cringes* Oh god now I'm thinking about those crazy yaoi fangirls screaming hysterically and smacking people with paddles...

Why'd you go and make me relive my nightmares? 

Cringes with you <_<

[Siansonea]

Thank you, slimgrin.

[ImperialOperative]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Gay sex between two men = you know what it is. The hole is not designed by nature for that purpose. Therefore, not compatible.


Please distinguish what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying that by nature, it is considered a disorder, abnormal, unnatural.

This does not make it wrong. I am just explaining.

Disorders are also, by nature, natural.

[Ryzaki]

ImperialOperative wrote...

People who say they watch Yaoi for the loving relationships are like people who say they read playboy for the great articles.

You ever read FAKE? That's yaoi and there's a grandtotal of 1 sex scene at the end of a 7 volume manga. You'd have to read it for the loving relationship because there's not much else!

[KainrycKarr]

Siansonea II wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...
Gay can be considered a genetic disorder based on the fact that what they do is not compatible by nature. What gay men do to satisfy each other is not what the human body was designed for. Doesn't make it wrong or evil...just not what those parts of the body were designed for.

Gay is counter-productive when it comes to reproduction, and therefore could be considered a disorder.

What's subjective, is whether or not the gay "disorder" is harmful enough to warrant action, or if it's simply one of the those side-effects of evolution being random.

I personally don't think it's the sort of disorder that requires action. Not unless like...50% of the population goes gay, which is very, very unlikely.

Bottom line, it's a genetic disorder, but not necessarily a problematic one.

I think everyone's getting a little over the top with what's homophobic and what's liberal. Just cool off...it's just a flippin video game.

Yours is a subjective viewpoint. Let me offer another. In the early stages of human development I would argue that homosexuality was actually beneficial. In most tribe-based species, male dominance and competition for breeding females can cause a great deal of harm to a tribe group, causing injury and death of males who could provide for the tribe in many ways. If some of the males in the tribe are homosexual, they are not challenging the other males for breeding females, and the tribe benefits from the presence of additional strong males without the necessity of coping with all the competition for breeding females. I can see how that improves the dynamic and viability of a primitive population. Far from being a mistake or a genetic disorder, I see it could easily be an evolutionary advantage.

It should also be noted that homosexuality is not unique to ****** sapiens. Other species exhibit this behavior as well. It has so far not led to any significant impact in population levels, if anything it helps keep population numbers more stable. Not every sexual union should result in offspring, this planet is crowded enough, thank you.

and I never said it should. I am simply saying that by its very nature, I don't think nature intended things to go that route, and therefore it is a disorder. I'm not insulting it, badmouthing it, or saying its wrong in any way shape or form.

That said, I actually see your point about the tribes and whatnot. You might have something there.

[Masticetobbacco]

KainrycKarr wrote...

ImperialOperative wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Basically going to report you based on your signature. A ****-styled swastika? seriously?

You're a bigot.

It's a **** styled swastika. I'm a Jewish male. Stop trolling/flamebaiting.

Why does Na.zi always automatically = holocaust and dead jews?
Just because a group of fascists did this 70 years ago, does not automatically mean fascism = lolololololol evil
there is jewish fascism too mind you, ever look how israel is governed? 

Ok lets try something else: Im chinese, the japanese killed chinese civilians in nanking 70 years ago. "lolololol they are all evil" "the japanese flag offends me, take it down, stop trolling me"

and you are a bigot for automatically assuming a form of government is rascist

[jlb524]

KainrycKarr wrote...

It's more an ethical thing I suppose. If it makes money, they'll do it. I just think it's silly to pander to yaoi/yuri fanboys/girls. The gay community is fine, and if it's them that want it, then absolutely it should be included.

Ethical?  Let me guess, you're one of those elitist straight males who think you're better than the 'lowly droolers' of your kind because you don't get off on f/f content like they do?

Yay for you!!  You get a scratch-n-sniff sticker!!!!

[illerianna]

KainrycKarr wrote...

illerianna wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

If it's a PRE-DEFINED character game, why in the hell is it marketed as "an immersive open-ended storyline"*?

*Taken from the Steam description.

And FemShep and Liara. No, asexual is not a gender. Liara is feminine. Why is f/f accepted, but not m/m?

Oh, that's right, because you find gay EWWW. Good for you. Now, tell me this, and quit giving ambiguous bull**** answers. Either you fail at describing your product, or this is just an answer you pulled out of your ass, while trying to come up with a real response.



I can chose who I romance, if I save the Counsel, if I save Nhirali Bhatia's body, if I hand over Tali's evidence, if I KEEP A FREAKIN' COLLECTOR BASE, but god forbid I choose to be gay? If this is a pre-defined story, why in the hell am I allowed to make decisions like that?

Learn to read. They said they have pre-defined SOME choices, and basically given the skeletal outline of the character.

Nothing said was ambiguous. If steam's description seems inaccurate, that's Steam's problem, not Bioware's.

Get off your soapbox and put down the pitchforks.

And why pre-define relationships, of all things? If I can choose something as big as some of the end-game choices, what's the deal with being gay? Because the devs don't like gays? I can honestly see NO other reason why that specifically would be a limited option.

Are they afraid someone might make their precious Shepard gay? OH NOES. It's ridiculous. "Yeah, yeah, you can romance aliens, be Renegade, screw your friends over, but be gay? OH CRAP. Do not want! NO ****** AMIRITE"

Put the option in there. A few extra lines of dialogue won't kill you, BioWare, or do the thoughts of your manly-man falling in love with another man haunt your dreams? Or that space marines can't be gay?

Please, explain, because I just do not get why they dodge around the question with **** like "We're keeping it PG-13". <_<

[Bucky_McLachlan]

The only things Bioware needs to explain in regard to gay Shep is this.

Well and this. Because why they didn't have gay Shep in the first game but the files are present in both games is just odd.

Also, the first video is pretty damn funny.

Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 08 avril 2010 - 07:35 .

[catabuca]

Kainry - Who said 'that hole' wasn't designed for that purpose? Did your body come with an instruction manual? Darn it, someone forgot to pack mine.



Ever knock one out? Not exactly furthering the human race, are you?

[RyrineaNara]

ImperialOperative wrote...

People who say they watch Yaoi for the loving relationships are like people who say they read playboy for the great articles.

You sir are sterotyping people. I like stories that build on a reationship not just throw them together just for the hell of it. I read Yaoi too see a story progress  not just for two guy making out. <_<

[Collider]

RedTracer7 wrote...
We all know a 3-way with FemShepard, Tali, and (Insert Any Asari here) would be freakin' awesome.

http://i43.tinypic.com/14mz1mq.jpg

Modifié par Collider, 08 avril 2010 - 07:35 .

[Temper_Graniteskul]

Siansonea II wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...
Gay can be considered a genetic disorder based on the fact that what they do is not compatible by nature. What gay men do to satisfy each other is not what the human body was designed for. Doesn't make it wrong or evil...just not what those parts of the body were designed for.

Gay is counter-productive when it comes to reproduction, and therefore could be considered a disorder.

What's subjective, is whether or not the gay "disorder" is harmful enough to warrant action, or if it's simply one of the those side-effects of evolution being random.

I personally don't think it's the sort of disorder that requires action. Not unless like...50% of the population goes gay, which is very, very unlikely.

Bottom line, it's a genetic disorder, but not necessarily a problematic one.

I think everyone's getting a little over the top with what's homophobic and what's liberal. Just cool off...it's just a flippin video game.

Yours is a subjective viewpoint. Let me offer another. In the early stages of human development I would argue that homosexuality was actually beneficial. In most tribe-based species, male dominance and competition for breeding females can cause a great deal of harm to a tribe group, causing injury and death of males who could provide for the tribe in many ways. If some of the males in the tribe are homosexual, they are not challenging the other males for breeding females, and the tribe benefits from the presence of additional strong males without the necessity of coping with all the competition for breeding females. I can see how that improves the dynamic and viability of a primitive population. Far from being a mistake or a genetic disorder, I see it could easily be an evolutionary advantage.

It should also be noted that homosexuality is not unique to ****** sapiens. Other species exhibit this behavior as well. It has so far not led to any significant impact in population levels, if anything it helps keep population numbers more stable. Not every sexual union should result in offspring, this planet is crowded enough, thank you.

OT, but there was a study out not that long ago that linked prevalence of gay male relatives to female fertility - that is, women who had a lot of offspring also tended to have gay male family members; the thought is that genetic traits which favour increased fertility in females also increase the chances of homosexuality in males. Oh, biology, is there no genetically-based trait that isn't complex and layered in its execution and expression? <3

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 08 avril 2010 - 07:37 .

[KainrycKarr]

illerianna wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

illerianna wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

If it's a PRE-DEFINED character game, why in the hell is it marketed as "an immersive open-ended storyline"*?

*Taken from the Steam description.

And FemShep and Liara. No, asexual is not a gender. Liara is feminine. Why is f/f accepted, but not m/m?

Oh, that's right, because you find gay EWWW. Good for you. Now, tell me this, and quit giving ambiguous bull**** answers. Either you fail at describing your product, or this is just an answer you pulled out of your ass, while trying to come up with a real response.



I can chose who I romance, if I save the Counsel, if I save Nhirali Bhatia's body, if I hand over Tali's evidence, if I KEEP A FREAKIN' COLLECTOR BASE, but god forbid I choose to be gay? If this is a pre-defined story, why in the hell am I allowed to make decisions like that?

Learn to read. They said they have pre-defined SOME choices, and basically given the skeletal outline of the character.

Nothing said was ambiguous. If steam's description seems inaccurate, that's Steam's problem, not Bioware's.

Get off your soapbox and put down the pitchforks.

And why pre-define relationships, of all things? If I can choose something as big as some of the end-game choices, what's the deal with being gay? Because the devs don't like gays? I can honestly see NO other reason why that specifically would be a limited option.

Are they afraid someone might make their precious Shepard gay? OH NOES. It's ridiculous. "Yeah, yeah, you can romance aliens, be Renegade, screw your friends over, but be gay? OH CRAP. Do not want! NO ****** AMIRITE"

Put the option in there. A few extra lines of dialogue won't kill you, BioWare, or do the thoughts of your manly-man falling in love with another man haunt your dreams? Or that space marines can't be gay?

Please, explain, because I just do not get why they dodge around the question with **** like "We're keeping it PG-13". <_<

Because in most families, gay is still not accepted. Bioware is a company. It's obvious they are trying to appeal to a wider demographic. They even explained it as such.

Should it be this way? Nope. But it is.

[Ryzaki]

RyrineaNara wrote...

ImperialOperative wrote...

People who say they watch Yaoi for the loving relationships are like people who say they read playboy for the great articles.

You sir are sterotyping people. I like stories that build on a reationship not just throw them together just for the hell of it. I read Yaoi too see a story progress  not just for two guy making out. <_<

Exactly I hate Yaoi that's pretty much porn. I want a damn storyline damn it!

Ooh did you ever read Silver Diamond?

I love that manga!

[KainrycKarr]

catabuca wrote...

Kainry - Who said 'that hole' wasn't designed for that purpose? Did your body come with an instruction manual? Darn it, someone forgot to pack mine.

Ever knock one out? Not exactly furthering the human race, are you?

Are you really questioning that? Study the muscle tissue and how it works.

Wow lol.

[RyrineaNara]

Ryzaki wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

ImperialOperative wrote...

People who say they watch Yaoi for the loving relationships are like people who say they read playboy for the great articles.

You sir are sterotyping people. I like stories that build on a reationship not just throw them together just for the hell of it. I read Yaoi too see a story progress  not just for two guy making out. <_<

Exactly I hate Yaoi that's pretty much porn. I want a damn storyline damn it!

Ooh did you ever read Silver Diamond?

I love that manga!

Let take this to pm, and pm me the link to Silver Diamonds

[ImperialOperative]

catabuca wrote...

Kainry - Who said 'that hole' wasn't designed for that purpose? Did your body come with an instruction manual? Darn it, someone forgot to pack mine.

Ever knock one out? Not exactly furthering the human race, are you?

It's for pooping, I should know, I've pooped quite a bit in my time.

Also, if you plug it so that you stop pooping, you die. 

Therefore, things aren't supposed to go in there.

Also, ask a gastroenterologist about anal sex.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 08 avril 2010 - 07:39 .