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[SmokeyPSD]

A really interesting discussion I must say. Well I choose to do the dark ritual, not out of wanting to preserve my PC but out of thinking, Morrigan might actually be putting forth an opportunity here to change the cycle. Sure, a grey warden strikes down the archdemon and dies. A blight ends but then it will happen again, might be 400 years, might be 1000 but it will happen.



For the old god to be conceived without the taint, there's hope in that I think. With Morrigan's time in the party I believe she learnt things, values and her character changed for the better. I think the reason she leaves and asks not to be followed is isolation for the child, to keep it safe and simply raise it like she said. It pains her to do it though. The ritual under Flemeth's control and the child would not bode well but I think that it is a good thing with Morrigan.

[Chuvvy]

She's an evil witch thief. And that demon baby will be squished by Shale.

That's a mental image for ya.

Modifié par Slidell505, 10 avril 2010 - 04:23 .

[Thalorin1919]

SmokeyPSD wrote...

A really interesting discussion I must say. Well I choose to do the dark ritual, not out of wanting to preserve my PC but out of thinking, Morrigan might actually be putting forth an opportunity here to change the cycle. Sure, a grey warden strikes down the archdemon and dies. A blight ends but then it will happen again, might be 400 years, might be 1000 but it will happen.

For the old god to be conceived without the taint, there's hope in that I think. With Morrigan's time in the party I believe she learnt things, values and her character changed for the better. I think the reason she leaves and asks not to be followed is isolation for the child, to keep it safe and simply raise it like she said. It pains her to do it though. The ritual under Flemeth's control and the child would not bode well but I think that it is a good thing with Morrigan.

I actually think she would disrupt the cycle. The darkspawn hear the 'song' of the Old Gods. A child with the soul of an Old God will then put out the song, and the darkspawn will be attracted to the song.

This could have severe outcomes. Darkspawn would most likely stream up to the surface, considering the child would be much easier to find then looking underground. Morrigan could not of had anticipated this, considering she didnt even know about this. And if the child becomes tainted, and it contains powerful magic that has been passed down to it, it could become a very dangerous Archdemon, starting a Blight.

[hakeem0996]

Morrigan is planning to do what Flemeth's been doing for centuries.This baby is her ticket to World domination and Immortality.



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[Sarah1281]

That seems rather unlikely given that we have no reason to believe that the body will be anything but a typical human/half-dwarf and Morrigan stealing its body and displacing its sould will mean that the whole dark ritual would be completely pointless. Not to mention that Morrigan, as a non-abomination, can't even do Flemeth's ritual anyway.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Evil for me would be if Morrigan took the kid and went on a rampage spreading strife and suffering in an attempt to destroy and dominate.



Morrigan, while usually selfish and a bit cold, never struck me as someone interested in running around causing suffering for the sake of it, or trying to take over and rule stuff. She is fiericely independant, and while pretty anti-social, doesn't really seem to care what society at large does. Only when ferelden religous society send templars after her simply because she's not a Chantry slave.



As far as the old gods go, who knows. But given the amount of paralells between DA and medieval Europe, my guess is the old gods were similar to the pagan gods worshiped by pre-Christian Europe, who were a mix of good and evil, law and chaos, balance. When Christians started moving through Europe, they were immensely antagonistic towards the Old religions, and when Christianity gained the upper hand, they became quite ruthless in their destruction of the old faiths.



Morrigan, to me, seems like one of those pagans in hiding, one who believes the pre-Chantry ways should be preserved for those who wish to return to them. Return to balance and an alternate way of life. So intent wise, I don't think Morrigans plans are evil and nefarious.



However, what will actually become in reality, regardless of Morrigan's intent, is a whole new ballgame. Whether it will turn out as she intends, or other forces not planned for take effect.



Morrigan shall return. I've never romanced her, but as a female PC, it was a bit hurtful when she gives the ultimateum.

[Addai]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

I actually think she would disrupt the cycle. The darkspawn hear the 'song' of the Old Gods. A child with the soul of an Old God will then put out the song, and the darkspawn will be attracted to the song.

This could have severe outcomes. Darkspawn would most likely stream up to the surface, considering the child would be much easier to find then looking underground. Morrigan could not of had anticipated this, considering she didnt even know about this. And if the child becomes tainted, and it contains powerful magic that has been passed down to it, it could become a very dangerous Archdemon, starting a Blight.

We can't know this because we don't really know what the song is.  If it's just the very existence of the old god, your scenario could prove true, but if it's a "call" the old gods put out because they're imprisoned, then a freed soul would have no need to do so.

[Master Shiori]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Evil for me would be if Morrigan took the kid and went on a rampage spreading strife and suffering in an attempt to destroy and dominate.

Morrigan, while usually selfish and a bit cold, never struck me as someone interested in running around causing suffering for the sake of it, or trying to take over and rule stuff. She is fiericely independant, and while pretty anti-social, doesn't really seem to care what society at large does. Only when ferelden religous society send templars after her simply because she's not a Chantry slave.

As far as the old gods go, who knows. But given the amount of paralells between DA and medieval Europe, my guess is the old gods were similar to the pagan gods worshiped by pre-Christian Europe, who were a mix of good and evil, law and chaos, balance. When Christians started moving through Europe, they were immensely antagonistic towards the Old religions, and when Christianity gained the upper hand, they became quite ruthless in their destruction of the old faiths.

Morrigan, to me, seems like one of those pagans in hiding, one who believes the pre-Chantry ways should be preserved for those who wish to return to them. Return to balance and an alternate way of life. So intent wise, I don't think Morrigans plans are evil and nefarious.

However, what will actually become in reality, regardless of Morrigan's intent, is a whole new ballgame. Whether it will turn out as she intends, or other forces not planned for take effect.

Morrigan shall return. I've never romanced her, but as a female PC, it was a bit hurtful when she gives the ultimateum.

Very well put Skadi.

This is how I also see Morrigan and what I see as the reason for Dark Ritual.
A way to return the Old Gods to the world in uncorrupted form and thus create a counter-balance to the Maker and his Chantry.

The fact that she takes the child to Orlais, the center of Maker's religion, seems to support this theory.

I also think this is the reason why she leaves the Warden. She can't be ceirtain that things will turn out as she planned. Leaving the Warden ensures that should something go wrong he/she will be spared the consequences.