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[Naxela625]

Just want to know what you guys think is the game's best twohander.  I personally would go with either Vigilance or Chasind Great Maul (it's too close for me to decide between the two).

[MarkyBoy147]

Yeah this kind of annoyed me that there is no real clear replacement for my chasind great maul. leg crusher isnt as good and i kind of wanted some giant new hammer to hit things with. my dwarf likes hammers, swords are for humans.

[Hundbert]

Chasind maul is only tier7. There is a good cheap battleaxe in awakening called Frenzy http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Frenzy

I haven't seen anything better than that.

Edit: Oh yes i forgot about vigilance. That one is really good too.

Modifié par Hundbert, 07 avril 2010 - 04:20 .

[MyythVarna]

Starfang from Soldier's keep dlc. Nugcrusher is also pretty good.

[d3c0yBoY]

Vigilance (Sharp) from Awakening

[codemass]

Modifié par codemass, 05 juillet 2010 - 12:09 .

[Last Darkness]

In origens or awkening, best for stats or looks? be more specific we cant read your mind .....yet.



Origens Starfang, Chasind Great Maul.

Awakening Vigilence, Frenzy, Mothers Chosen



Looks Butterfly Sword, Vigilence.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I think Starfang is the best, but people love the Chasind Great Maul...

[Last Darkness]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I think Starfang is the best, but people love the Chasind Great Maul...

Because it does more damage.

[Rocket_Propelled_Grenade]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I think Starfang is the best, but people love the Chasind Great Maul...

Starfang is effectively tier 8 in a 7 tier game, but it lacks the special bonuses like +75 stamina. Also, Chasind Great Maul is usually adding its full armor penetration to damage by the time you get it, so its stat distribution makes it more effective.

In Awakening, I am a huge fan of VIgilance because it can work for any build, thanks to the customization. I'm about to get in on my Arcane Warrior, and he often has difficulty with accuracy and mana--so I can just choose to up those aspects of the stats!

[beancounter501]

In DAO I would say Starfang, Chasind Great Maul and possible Nug Crusher. All have really good stats. Starfang is the best early game, it gives a huge +9 to hit. Later on once your strength starts to get higher the Mauls start to shine.

[jsachun]

Chasind Great Maul by far. Even with 4+ all attributes on Vigilance, Chasind Great Maul will generate more damage. Also 75+ stamina helps when using final blow as a berserker as well. Screenies to prove it.

Vigilance.


Chasind Great Maul

Modifié par jsachun, 08 juillet 2010 - 10:54 .

[slayingstorm]

what about Ageless that is my fave two hander looks good to

[Yrkoon]

slayingstorm wrote...

what about Ageless that is my fave two hander looks good to

Ageless would be great, if it wasn't triple-bugged.

2 of its properties  don't work  (weakens nearby darkspawn, and  messy kills).  And it has no rune slots when you get it.


As for Vigilence vs. Chasind Great Maul...  depending on how you customize it, Vigilence  can blow Chasind Great Maul out of the water.   It's base damage is  higher than Chasind great mauls with its + 5 bonus .  And it has an additional + 5 elemental damage  bonus on top of that  (which essentially nullifies Chasind Great Maul's Armor penetration advantage).      It's Base critical chance is more than 3 times higher (possibly 6 times higher,  And again, depending on how you customize it,  it  can add +15% to your critical damage.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:38 .

[Sidney]

The Summer Sword is the best non-DLC 2 handed weapon, why? It is "free" so it + whatever 133 gold can buy in other things > the great maul.

[Yrkoon]

Sidney wrote...

The Summer Sword is the best non-DLC 2 handed weapon, why? It is "free" so it + whatever 133 gold can buy in other things > the great maul.

 For free weapons, I pick Yusaris.   Lets compare the two:

Summer Sword

Silverite (tier 6)
Damage: 16.50
Critical chance:  2.25%

Properties:

+20 Physical resistance
Chance to knock target back



Yusaris

Silverite  (tier 6)
Damage: 16.50
Critical chance:  2.25%

Properties:

+20% fire resistance
+10 damage vs. Dragons


^^Everything is equal until you get to the properties.  Summer sword gives you +20% physical resistance.  Worthless on a two-hander, since  they get   indomitable, which makes them  flat out immune to stun, knockdown, pull.... ie. the things you need a physical resistance check for..  And its second property is not implemented.  It doesn't do anything whatsoever.

 On the other hand, Yusaris gives +20% fire resistance... a property that  not only works, but isn't rendered redundant by any 2-h skills.  Its other property is just  a bonus.  An extra +10 damage to dragons  ( read:  an extra +10 damage, to dragonlings, drakes, the High Dragon and Flemeth)

Don't get me wrong,  Both weapons are relatively crappy compared to the DLC stuff and the stuff you actually have to pay for, but compared to each other, one of them is less crappy.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:29 .

[Last Darkness]

Chasind Great Maul is still the Best two hand weapon in the game. Yrkoon you are correct in your comparison as a specific setup for Two hand Vigilence will do about the same damage but not everyone is going to get that specific setup or even two hand vigilence. This may just be for their Offhand two hander like Sten or Ohgren.
Though it is worth mentioning that two hand swords use 110% of your Str for added damage while Mauls use 125% of your Str. So calculate The maul always doing 15% more damage then a twohand sword because of this into the equation. Im not great with math and I would love to see actual numbers but as I see it the maul will do considerably more or equal damage(not sure) the higher Str you are particularly if your breaking 100+ Str in Awakening.


*EDIT* forgot to add the specific setup is Raw power+Sharp for Vigilence and I meant Chasind great maul as best for Origens.

Modifié par Last Darkness, 10 juillet 2010 - 12:06 .

[DWSmiley]

Yrkoon wrote...

Don't get me wrong,  Both weapons are relatively crappy compared to the DLC stuff and the stuff you actually have to pay for, but compared to each other, one of them is less crappy.

And add to that Yusaris is available much earlier.

[Ken555]

I used Yusaris to kill Dragons with Two grandmaster frost runes. Ageless is a pretty good sword, you can get in Orzammar.



In Awakening its Vigilance.



However if you get wardens keep Starfang is great.

[Elhanan]

Morrigan and/or Lil; both are handfulls.... *rowr*

Modifié par Elhanan, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:04 .

[Ken555]

I know, I wish I could see them again in DA2.

[Last Darkness]

As far as Progression goes for Twohanders for fastest attained.



Butterfly Sword just after Lothering, You can immedietly go to Orzamar(Can be difficult but not impossible) as your first destination and pick up Ageless really fast. Yusaris in the mage tower takes quite a bit of work/time compared to the others.

And of course yyou could always make a B line for Starfang or Nugcrusher.