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If Jacob is Bioware's man of choice, then really...I mean...the mind boggles. If Bioware thinks he is a Kaiden substitute they have lost their minds Seriously.


This being their mindset fits with FemShep's appalling dialog when talking to Jacob. They seem to have truly thought Jacob to be irresistable.
The problem is if you act like someone's irresistable without actually making them irresistable.. well.. you get Jacob.

And trust me, someone who calls me "teh priize" a little after implying I'm the second best choice is NOT irresistable.

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imported_beer wrote...

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So much angst. I laugh.

...because you cannot craft an argument in response?

Face it, angst or not, she/ he has a point.

If Jacob is Bioware's man of choice, then really...I mean...the mind boggles.


I had no argument in response. I didn't care about the point she made. I thought it funny how much angst was created over the lack of a dialogue from a DLC character from a video game.

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Do I need Xbox live to get the Kasumi download content?  I have never downloaded anything before.  Is it intuitive, or do I have to study and figure it out?  I just want Kasumi.


just a silver membership to access the store (which is free) if you could get the Cerberus Network you can get Kasumi

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Lareit wrote...

I had no argument in response. I didn't care about the point she made. I thought it funny how much angst was created over the lack of a dialogue from a DLC character from a video game.




If you don't care about such things, why are you reading a topic about love interests and character opinions?
Oh right, to troll. Silly me.

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I don't understand how people can't acknowledge the fact that Jacob is physically very attractive. His personality is vanilla as hell but fine is fine. I'm not into Brad Pitt but when the man takes his shirt off I am obligated to say "GAD DAYM." It's a scientific fact, folks.

I appreciate his musculature (Bloody hell, he looks like a hyper-realistic ideo-plastik hellenistic statue! ) but at the same time... those hips. I apprecaite that one of the side effects of Epic Muscles is the shoulder:hips ratio is pretty clear, but... yeah.

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Lareit wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Lareit wrote...

So much angst. I laugh.

...because you cannot craft an argument in response?

Face it, angst or not, she/ he has a point.

If Jacob is Bioware's man of choice, then really...I mean...the mind boggles.


I had no argument in response. I didn't care about the point she made. I thought it funny how much angst was created over the lack of a dialogue from a DLC character from a video game.




Thus proving my point about whiners jumping in to complain no matter who would have been excluded?  Thanks!  :wizard:

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This being their mindset fits with FemShep's appalling dialog when talking to Jacob. They seem to have truly thought Jacob to be irresistable.
The problem is if you act like someone's irresistable without actually making them irresistable.. well.. you get Jacob.

And trust me, someone who calls me "teh priize" a little after implying I'm the second best choice is NOT irresistable.


They should have learned from Tali.

You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see. Same with Kaidan. There will be those who like Thane's smecks appeal, Garrus' chutzpah, but if we are going to compare Jacob and Kaidan, I think the latter will win by an overwhelming majority. No matter how smecksy you made the former's abs.

Jacob was a good guy, and I like him on my team. But man, the romance was...a libido killer.

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Loki330 wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I don't understand how people can't acknowledge the fact that Jacob is physically very attractive. His personality is vanilla as hell but fine is fine. I'm not into Brad Pitt but when the man takes his shirt off I am obligated to say "GAD DAYM." It's a scientific fact, folks.

I appreciate his musculature (Bloody hell, he looks like a hyper-realistic ideo-plastik hellenistic statue! ) but at the same time... those hips. I apprecaite that one of the side effects of Epic Muscles is the shoulder:hips ratio is pretty clear, but... yeah.


His upper body looks too sculpted anyway. It doesn't look realistic. It looks like he's wearing a fibreglass torso.
Which might explain why he has the waist of a 10 year old girl.

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They should have learned from Tali.

You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see. Same with Kaidan. There will be those who like Thane's smecks appeal, Garrus' chutzpah, but if we are going to compare Jacob and Kaidan, I think the latter will win by an overwhelming majority. No matter how smecksy you made the former's abs.

Jacob was a good guy, and I like him on my team. But man, the romance was...a libido killer.


Jacob does work as a friend, and when FemShep drops the goddamn **** dialog. Though he still needs to drop some of that blandess.
And even if Jacob had a perfect body he still wouldn't be a great catch like the game makes him out to be simply because his personality during a romance reverts to bad porno mode.

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The Angry One wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

If Jacob is Bioware's man of choice, then really...I mean...the mind boggles. If Bioware thinks he is a Kaiden substitute they have lost their minds Seriously.


This being their mindset fits with FemShep's appalling dialog when talking to Jacob. They seem to have truly thought Jacob to be irresistable.
The problem is if you act like someone's irresistable without actually making them irresistable.. well.. you get Jacob.

And trust me, someone who calls me "teh priize" a little after implying I'm the second best choice is NOT irresistable.


I think that his priiiiize thing has killed the character. I had this poll running about Jacob and this was the main point of criticism. Almost everyone loathes the Jacob romance. Also FemSheps have a bigger problem with him because of Hales voice acting there.

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Just wanted to point out that besides all the various reasons it's silly Kasumi doesn't comment or Ash or Kaidan that people have already mentioned, you have a picture of her/him on your desk. She knows all this other stuff, but hasn't noticed that/picked up on the tension on Horizon/overheard any crew gossip?

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The Angry One wrote...


If you don't care about such things, why are you reading a topic about love interests and character opinions?
Oh right, to troll. Silly me.


Yes, very silly you. You replied to a troll.

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I think that his priiiiize thing has killed the character. I had this poll running about Jacob and this was the main point of criticism. Almost everyone loathes the Jacob romance. Also FemSheps have a bigger problem with him because of Hales voice acting there.


"Teh priiize" is certainly a big dealbreaker, but there are a lot of things that turn Jacob's romance into a tapestry of crap.
The FemShep dialog is atrocious, Jacob's "she needs a better man" thing on Miranda makes it look like Shep is second best (yeah how romantic), Jacob's dialog when rejected in Shep's cabin makes him look like a co-dependant psycho, with such gems as "what no sex? BUT I LOVE YOU." and "you're a tease!".
It doesn't work on any level and it leaves me wondering who wrote this and if Hale and Lazarre-White could even keep a straight face while reading this crap.

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The Angry One wrote...


"Teh priiize" is certainly a big dealbreaker, but there are a lot of things that turn Jacob's romance into a tapestry of crap.
The FemShep dialog is atrocious, Jacob's "she needs a better man" thing on Miranda makes it look like Shep is second best (yeah how romantic), Jacob's dialog when rejected in Shep's cabin makes him look like a co-dependant psycho, with such gems as "what no sex? BUT I LOVE YOU." and "you're a tease!".
It doesn't work on any level and it leaves me wondering who wrote this and if Hale and Lazarre-White could even keep a straight face while reading this crap.


Agreed. I youtube'd the Garrus romance and found it comically akward. Then I checked out the Jacob ones and found it comically painfully awful.

Which is a shame. For Manshep Jacob is the one guy who seems to have all his **** squared away. Even on his loyalty mission, you don't have to talk him down, he knows his father isn't worth him pulling the trigger.

Makes him a reliable comrade to have around.

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The Angry One wrote...

"Teh priiize" is certainly a big dealbreaker, but there are a lot of things that turn Jacob's romance into a tapestry of crap.
The FemShep dialog is atrocious, Jacob's "she needs a better man" thing on Miranda makes it look like Shep is second best (yeah how romantic), Jacob's dialog when rejected in Shep's cabin makes him look like a co-dependant psycho, with such gems as "what no sex? BUT I LOVE YOU." and "you're a tease!".
It doesn't work on any level and it leaves me wondering who wrote this and if Hale and Lazarre-White could even keep a straight face while reading this crap.


Thats what I kind of meant when I wrote that the Jacob romance is loathed by many. After I read this I really must second you on that it is badly written.
I didn't know about the rejection thing though, sounds really terrible.^_^ I should look it up!

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Lareit wrote...
Makes him a reliable comrade to have around.


He is an *awesome* comrade. I wouldn't contest that at all. He and Garrus are my FemShep's constant team mates and the folks she trusts most . At least until Samara comes along.

And to me it is not what *he* says as much as what Femshep says when she speaks to him. Sure other characters say cheesy things but Femshep has specific dialogue options to start that. Otherwise, it is pretty buddy buddy with them.

But in the case of Jacob, from the GET GO, fem shep speaks to Jacob like she is a cat in heat. Your FemPC cannot  tone it down, or keep it professional. Until the very end when if you have gritted your teeth to your character speaking in 100% innuendo even though you didn't choose to, Jacob becomes the friend. And he is awesome as one, IMO.

It is the way the romance was scripted on the part of FemShep that is a bigger deal killer to me than what Jacob says. Works great if you think Jacob is hawt, but if you don't start off with those intentions from the start, it is a real buzz kill to watch your PC talk like that.

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The Angry One wrote...

"Teh priiize" is certainly a big dealbreaker, but there are a lot of things that turn Jacob's romance into a tapestry of crap.
The FemShep dialog is atrocious, Jacob's "she needs a better man" thing on Miranda makes it look like Shep is second best (yeah how romantic),


'the priiiize' always makes me giggle in hysterics. It also murders the mood horrible. I think I see what they were going for with the 'needs a better man' line (I have vague self esteem issues and don't feel I'd be good enough for the Perfect Woman) but the context and delivery does make it seem like Femshep's just 'Eh, you'll do' option, especially with the way she talks to him.

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To be fair it's more like half way through the conversations with Jacob that, if you stick to the professional and stand-offish choices, you realise that hey, Shep is talking normally, and Jacob is actually a decent guy to talk with!

The ****Shep dialog just drives me up the wall, especially the opener. What the hell were they thinking.
Then there's this:

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The "get to know you" dialog choice, after the suicide mission when Jacob talks about your decision.
Which is suddenly a normal line, delivered in a normal, non-****ty, in-character voice.

AND THEY DIDN'T USE THIS DURING THE MAIN GAME WHY?

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imported_beer wrote...
You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see.


I really do not understand why it is necessary to attack the other LIs to show you like your own.  Miranda is a sweet girl in her own way.

Do we really need to turn this into a war where we slam each other's preferred characters?  Way too much of that going on in this thread.  It's getting old people.

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Valmy wrote...

imported_beer wrote...
You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see.


I really do not understand why it is necessary to attack the other LIs to show you like your own.  Miranda is a sweet girl in her own way.

Do we really need to turn this into a war where we slam each other's preferred characters?  Way too much of that going on in this thread.  It's getting old people.


If fem shep had someone decent to romance, we would not be complaining, we had a fish,a lizard and a toad.

Who would you pick?

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Valmy wrote...

imported_beer wrote...
You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see.


I really do not understand why it is necessary to attack the other LIs to show you like your own.  Miranda is a sweet girl in her own way.

Do we really need to turn this into a war where we slam each other's preferred characters?  Way too much of that going on in this thread.  It's getting old people.


People are too easily prone to acting on their jealous impulses.

I always judge things from as neutral a perspective as possible.

It's why I greatly dislike Thane and Samara more then Zaeed, when Zaeed is definitely more evil. He's atleast honest about it and doesn't pretend it's not his choice, or dictated by some Just Code.

But thats neither here or there.

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I really do not understand why it is necessary to attack the other LIs to show you like your own.  Miranda is a sweet girl in her own way.

Do we really need to turn this into a war where we slam each other's preferred characters?  Way too much of that going on in this thread.  It's getting old people.


I was not insulting Miranda. I am sorry if you thought that. Miranda is great.

I was making the point that for all her beauty there will still be people who like the woman whose face you can't see because of her sweet nerdy personality. It was not an indictment of Miranda at all. Just an illustration of how subjectivity works.

P.S: I don't see Miranda as "sweet". I do see her as a tough, intelligent, smart woman though.

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If fem shep had someone decent to romance, we would not be complaining, we had a fish,a lizard and a toad.

Who would you pick?


Not all toads are ugly : (

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Cartims wrote...

Valmy wrote...

imported_beer wrote...
You can give a girl Biotics, genetically engineer her to be one hawt babe, perfect body, etc, and yet you may well find more people love the sweet gal whose face you can't even see.


I really do not understand why it is necessary to attack the other LIs to show you like your own.  Miranda is a sweet girl in her own way.

Do we really need to turn this into a war where we slam each other's preferred characters?  Way too much of that going on in this thread.  It's getting old people.


If fem shep had someone decent to romance, we would not be complaining, we had a fish,a lizard and a toad.

Who would you pick?


Well, first I picked Garrus, then Thane, then Garrus every playthrough after that. It was awesome :wub:.