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[darkmax1974]

I have gone through quite a few threads in these forums and come to realize that at least a handful of you shouldn't even be playing the game.

Your command of basic written English is really bad. And I'm not just talking typing mistakes or English as second language. Those are forgiveable and can easily be recognized. With some of you, there are serious grammatical errors made repeatedly.

I would suggest to those, and you know who you are, to consider several things:

1. Do you qualify for the age requirement of this game?
2. If you are spending this amount of time playing the game, you should be able to brush up your language.
3. "Facepalm" is not a word.

I'm not trying to insult, just voicing my disappointment at the state of some of your written English.

Modifié par darkmax1974, 08 avril 2010 - 06:18 .

[Nukenin]

darkmax1974 wrote...
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I'm not trying to insult, just voicing my disappointment at the state of some of your written English.

Smells like an insult to me.  <_<

Fellow typers of broken English, to your keyboards!  Let's have at it!  Bury this lout!

 *facepalm* 

[Ghrelt]

I refuse to insult the members of this particular board, but I have noticed the same disintigration of and disregard for the English language by society in general. I blame texting.

[errant_knight]

Hey, I'm as erudite as the next person, but I reserve the right to use visual descriptors like facepalm to provide context! Let's not get carried away....



As long as people use capitalization, punctualtion, paragraph breaks, and make a nominal effort to spell, I'm okay with lapses. I just want to know that they care enough about communicating with me to make an effort. And I want to be able to read it. No paragraph breaks or punctuation makes my eyes bleed.

[Thor Rand Al]

ROFLMFAO now I really have seen it all as far as complaints.  I didn't know we were in school 



Lol sorry that was probably a little to uncalled for but really!?!?!

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 08 avril 2010 - 01:28 .

[errant_knight]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

ROFLMFAO now I really have seen it all as far as complaints.  I didn't know we were in school 



Lol sorry that was probably a little to uncalled for but really!?!?!

Well, I've only said anything when it's particularly bad, but it is pretty darn irritating. If I have to decipher, I often skip a post unless I'm feeling tolerant at the time. I kind of loathe it when people use text speak in forums.

Modifié par errant_knight, 08 avril 2010 - 01:31 .

[UpiH]

Non scholae, sed vitae discimus et vita sine litteris mors...

[Nukenin]

darkmax1974 wrote...

[…]
1. Do you qualify the age requirement for this game?
2. If you are spending this amount of time playing the game, you should be able to brush up your langauge.
[…]

(emphasis mine)

I can't believe I let this little tirade slip without picking these nits.

If you're going to insult deficiencies in others' written language skills, don't make any mistakes in the post in which you proceed to berate them.

Otherwise you set yourself up for some pompous arse quoting said goofs and adding emphasis.  

[Thor Rand Al]

I wasn't meaning you Errant.  The main topic just took me by surprise, but I do know what you mean.  But then I can't spell or type worth shyt sometimes myself lol.  Or make sense

[Gill Kaiser]

I agree that some people really have no business writing anything where other people may see it, but keep in mind that the internet is worldwide, and many people are indeed writing English as their second or even third language.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 08 avril 2010 - 01:37 .

[Nukenin]

And regardless, standing atop a soapbox preaching to the masses in a general post to the forum really isn't going to do anything other than set yourself up for a bit of flak.  Those who are poor communicators will remain poor communicators, and if they stumbled across your admonishment, it was only because they were hoping to see someone using pottymouth in written form.

If these written language delinquents are participating in or initiating a discussion you wish to follow, then best to try to entreat them to make sense within the specific context of that particular discussion.  An effective technique is to politely inform them, "soandso, I don't know what the [CONTENT BLOCKED DUE TO AGE RESTRICTION] you're saying.  Write intelligibly, (wo)man!"

<_<

[tigriscaesius]

Languages typically take the path of least resistance during the course of their evolution. Ever since the internet (in its various forms) opened up the possibility for written text to be used as a live method of communication, it, too, has begun to diverge from spoken English proper... which has /how/ many dialects?

Granted, we have associations like the MLA and official styles like AP, Chicago, and so on to dictate how things /should/ be written, but the fact that there's more than one of these should make clear how much the written word can differ by region, dialect, and so on.

I think the point's already been made that as long as whatever is written is easily decipherable, it doesn't really matter. English is known for not being an easy language, grammatically, anyways. And I'm lost without a spell-checker, myself. So, have a bit of humor, folks. There are more meaningful things to get worked up over.

Modifié par tigriscaesius, 08 avril 2010 - 01:46 .

[UpiH]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I agree that some people really have no business writing anything where other people may see it, but keep in mind that the internet is worldwide, and many people are indeed writing English as their second or even third language.

As am I. The OP, however graciously excluded us by saying: " And I'm not just talking typing mistakes or English as second language. Those are forgiveable and can easily be recognized."

It could be a lack of understanding; what is the referred poster driving at. People read a couple of words, then make a counter-attack or somesuch.

[errant_knight]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I agree that some people really have no business writing anything where other people may see it, but keep in mind that the internet is worldwide, and many people are indeed writing English as their second or even third language.

Those aren't the people who are irritating--and they often communicate with more skill than the native speakers.

UpiH wrote...

Non scholae, sed vitae discimus et vita sine litteris mors...

Seneca?

Modifié par errant_knight, 08 avril 2010 - 01:47 .

[UpiH]

Busted. I'd hoped 'twas a Tevinter Imperium writing on the restroom wall ;-P

Come to think of it: Shouldn't the topic read "Written Language in This Forum" as in a headline?

Modifié par UpiH, 08 avril 2010 - 01:59 .

[Raiil]

UpiH wrote...

Non scholae, sed vitae discimus et vita sine litteris mors...

With regards to the OP: I agree that it can be troublesome; while I speak English fluently, it's not my first language and without the punctuation and the caps, I have trouble keeping with the flow of a post. But I'd rather have someone spell badly who participates than have someone with perfect grammar who has nothing good to add to the community.

[LadyDamodred]

Being a grammar ****, I understand how this is irritating. But I look at it like this: If your writing is so terrible it cannot be understood with minimal effort, it's not worth it. If it bothers you so much, ignore posts like that. It is not worth the time and aggravation. Seems simple to me.

Edit:  Okay, "n a z i" is censored?  Wtf?  This pisses me right teh eff off.

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 08 avril 2010 - 02:01 .

[ejoslin]

darkmax1974 wrote...

I have gone through quite a few threads in these forums and come to realize that at least a handful of you shouldn't even be playing the game.

Your command of basic written English is really bad. And I'm not just talking typing mistakes or English as second language. Those are forgiveable and can easily be recognized. With some of you, there are serious grammatical errors made repeatedly.

I would suggest to those, and you know who you are, to consider several things:

1. Do you qualify the age requirement for this game?
2. If you are spending this amount of time playing the game, you should be able to brush up your langauge.
3. "Facepalm" is not a word.

I'm not trying to insult, just voicing my disappointment at the state of some of your written English.

One should proofread ones posts before posting grammar flames 

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 avril 2010 - 02:02 .

[Wicked 702]

Don't care bout the haters. I agree with OP 100%. If English is your native language then at least make an effort to use it properly.....most of the time. This isn't AOL instant messenger.

Edit: Well, except for the facepalm part. As long as you don't spell it faysepulmn...

Modifié par Wicked 702, 08 avril 2010 - 02:06 .

[Daerog]

wuht?

[Nukenin]

Non vitae sed scholae discimus.  ("Not for life, but for school do we learn.")

Isn't that how Seneca expressed it, a lamentation of the reality of things? Over time the misquoted inversion fantasy, non scholae sed vitae discimus, has been taken up as a slogan by a motley assortment of educational institutions desperate to be relevant, sometimes dropping discimus so as not to be misconstrued as fraudulent advertising.

Vita sine litteris mors ("Life without letters is death", or rather "life without learning is death") is from Seneca's original Otium sine litteris mors ("Leisure…").  Again, mangled in the name of putting some fancy Latin slogan over the doorways of desperate educational institutions.

Not that I would know anything. I don't grok Latin, and I thought Seneca was an SUV.  Lacuna vendo nostri schola.  Words to live by (and possibly horrid Latin; I really don't grok it)!

[errant_knight]

Nukenin wrote...
[...]sometimes dropping discimus so as not to be misconstrued as fraudulent advertising.
 

ROTFL!

[UpiH]

I don't think they're that fancy. Cliches will be cliches, but at the onset there's at least some "truth" behind them. I think, by critizising the establishment he actually meant that we should study for life, not for the established pompous institutions.



I think, we still can do it; to learn, not because of the institutions or given instructions or upbringing, but in spite of them.

[Nukenin]

This is why I think it was a lament, rather than a celebration.

Kinda similar to how today, it seems the focus (in the U.S. anyway) is on passing tests.  It's not for life, but for passing tests that they learn.  Non vitae, sed experirae discimus?

Again, though, say "Seneca" and I think "Weren't they one of the Iriquois nations?"  I'm very much the dumb d0rf pictured.

[UpiH]

Somehow I don't think you're that simple, hehe.