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[JLBoyyy]

although i havent thought about this much, didnt vigil (prothean AI dude from Ilos) say that the key to release all of the reapers (or something like that) was opening the huge relay from dark space (i think) was in the citidel controls.

correct me if im wrong (im pretty sure i am),  but if the citidel was actually a trap to get teh reapers to destroy everybody, why didnt we destroy the citidel for just in case things happened like we fail and civilization happens again to fail?

also, shouldnt they scatter all records and have a lot of secret stuff just in case?

thats my thoughts, but some turian counciler might have "dissmissed that claim" (bastard.  i mean, he was ATTACKED by a reaper ship and still didnt believe us)

JLBoyyy

[noffis]

"The station's hull is sufficiently strong that, even when subjected to the most advanced weaponry available, it would take several days of sustained bombardment to inflict any serious damage to the superstructure."



That, and it's kinda useful.

[NoriYuki Sato]

simple...the Council will never listen to Shephard, so therefore we can't just go and blow up the main source of Galactic Civilization's Rule.

[JLBoyyy]

so... i was right. major plothole? or everyones just gonn get owned in ME3. im rooting for the second one...





and what happened to "better safe than sorry"



then again, it looks pretty cool...



wait, what if the turian counciler is indoctrinated? yay! i get to kill him!

[demongirl420]

the citadel was never completely destroyed. you are in it during the last scene

[noffis]

Umm, I'd say not. The reason Nazara couldn't open the citadel and needed Saren and the Geth in ME1 was that the keepers somehow malfunctioned (because the Protheans did something to them if I remember correctly) and a Reaper (in this case Nazara) would have to do it "manually").

That, and the council doesn't believe the Reapers are a threat. I see no plotholes in the existance of the Citadel.

Modifié par noffis, 08 avril 2010 - 09:52 .

[JLBoyyy]

wait, cant an asari just meld minds with shepard and know everything? smart idea, eh?



i mean, wouldnt all of the becon stuff make sense to the asari counciler?



can that one make sense, or would that be seen as a waste of energy for the counciler even though the reapers could kill everybody

[exskeeny]

i think an asari mind meld wouldn't show truths, just what the person they meld with believes to be true.

[Wildecker]

JLBoyyy wrote...

wait, cant an asari just meld minds with shepard and know everything? smart idea, eh?

i mean, wouldnt all of the becon stuff make sense to the asari counciler?

can that one make sense, or would that be seen as a waste of energy for the counciler even though the reapers could kill everybody

After that mindmeld the Asari would know what Shepard believes to be true. Whether it is true - that's another question. Commander Shepard has this annoying tendency to leave no evidence behind intact for others to validate his claims ...

[chirpburp]

It's an insult that the counsel won't meet Shepard & who put Hoodina the idiot human politician on the counsel. I didn't vote for the a##h### in ME1. Anyway Tali better be pretty with sultry lips, at least I want to believe so. Jack a little too psycho for me. Miranda no comment Cerberus is watching Zapp!! Finally the illusive man I love him and hate him and love and hate him......anyway bring on ME3 as ME1 and ME2 were great!!!

[Russalka]

I thought the asari mind meld would work in convincing the council.



But then again, I believe that culturally it is a very intimate process, and what was done to Shepard was done out of necessity. To ask the asari to connect their minds to verify some outlandish story would be demeaning. And possibly they would see what Shepard believes is going on, and nothing else. But the Cipher and the Prothean message could actually work towards convincing them, I know nothing much about the "lore", but maybe it could be recognisable that these are not simply thought out by Shepard.

[DaVanguard]

I dont even thinnk the asari counciler can mind meld not every asari chooses to develep biotic which is how I think is done

[Pacifien]

DaVanguard wrote...
I dont even thinnk the asari counciler can mind meld not every asari chooses to develep biotic which is how I think is done

Every Asari has some ability in biotics, but you have to put some effort into honing that skill if you want to be adept at it. Not entirely sure if biotics are related to their ability to mind meld. As it's an element of their reproduction, I'd assumed all Asari can do it.

Anyway, as others have said before, there's still a Citadel because the Council has chosen to ignore Shepard's warnings about the Reapers, which includes the idea that the Citadel is a mass relay for Reaper use. Why the Council chooses to ignore Shepard is a mystery. All attempts I have made to explain it have utterly failed in convincing me.

[JLBoyyy]

now i guess it makes sense, but now i want to see the citidel get owned on by the reapers and shepard should be like, "dont say i didnt tell you so!" as s/he leaves with only anderson because he is the only one who believeed shepard.



i think that would be pretty funny



now that i think about it, why are shouldnt shepard do something about the relays? i mean, the reapers kinda built them to kill everybody, but everyone is like "whatever". i guess its just too useful...

[Pacifien]

JLBoyyy wrote...
now that i think about it, why are shouldnt shepard do something about the relays? i mean, the reapers kinda built them to kill everybody, but everyone is like "whatever". i guess its just too useful...

If the relays are built of the same material as the Citadel, then they're incredibly tough to destroy. The Mu Relay survived a supernova blast.

Since the Reapers left the mass relays and the Citadel around so civilizations would develop technology familiar to the Reapers, I've kind of wondered if finding a way to a) destroy the Citadel and 2) shut down the relays would be the key to stopping the cycle of destruction once and for all.

[aka_Mich]

Even if you could get people to believe in the Reaper plot which in the story it's quite apparent that the council does not. The Citadel and the mass relays are the center of galactic civilization. Destroying them would be akin to a modern day country nuking themselves back to the stone age to prevent invasion.



Would it work, yes. Is it logical, probably not. And it's all completely irrelevant anyway as nobody believes your story as there is little to no evidence backing it up. From the council's stand point the problem was resolved by defeating Sovereign, the geth and Saren.

[Torrential]

My usual Shepard persona agrees, nuke the council, even if its not going to work .



My shepard loves sending them messages between missions, just so he can insult them, the comm room is where he goes to blow off steam and have a few beers.