Discuss the Awakened Companions.
#26
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 10:09
1a) Depends on the character I am playing. Some might cheat, others would not.
2) Nathanial, Anders, Sigrun and Justice.
3) Velanna. Which is ironic because I used her for the majority of the game. Some of her comments with Oghren were lawl.
#27
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 10:13
I didn't dislike any of the Awakening NPCs. Not sure why people hate Velanna. She's b*tchy, but you do see her wounds so I guess I'm able to look past the prickly exterior. Does everyone have to be perky and happy? Oghren's story sure has taken a depressing turn, though. I was never able to get his approval high enough to do his quest, either.
#28
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:10
Addai67 wrote...
Nathaniel is definitely the most romanceable in my book, but of the two I've taken over to Awakening- a Cousland queen and an elven mage who was with Zevran- neither would cheat on their mates. And it does seem inappropriate to fraternize with your troops.
I didn't dislike any of the Awakening NPCs. Not sure why people hate Velanna. She's b*tchy, but you do see her wounds so I guess I'm able to look past the prickly exterior. Does everyone have to be perky and happy? Oghren's story sure has taken a depressing turn, though. I was never able to get his approval high enough to do his quest, either.
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
#29
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:20
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
Actually, she was tricked by darkspawn into thinking humans had kidnapped her sister.
Yes, I would have acted differently if she did know; I think most people would have. But she didn't.
#30
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:23
1a: Not likely honestly unless I did Morrigan
2: Other than Oghren? I'd have to go with Nathaniel; my first play through was a Cousland, and I like the fact that he starts out hating you and then figures out that you're really not to blame at all
3: Velanna- never used her, she drove me nuts
#31
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:37
Well they might not have any direct involvement with her sisters disappearance, but they were humans and for her all humans were to blame for her sisters disappearance.errant_knight wrote...
Addai67 wrote...
Nathaniel is definitely the most romanceable in my book, but of the two I've taken over to Awakening- a Cousland queen and an elven mage who was with Zevran- neither would cheat on their mates. And it does seem inappropriate to fraternize with your troops.
I didn't dislike any of the Awakening NPCs. Not sure why people hate Velanna. She's b*tchy, but you do see her wounds so I guess I'm able to look past the prickly exterior. Does everyone have to be perky and happy? Oghren's story sure has taken a depressing turn, though. I was never able to get his approval high enough to do his quest, either.
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
And can you mention ONE companion (justice doesn't count as he is practically a newborn) which isn't a murderer/mass-murderer? All of our companions are the scum of society.
Edit: Except Alistair, he is just a douche...
Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 08 avril 2010 - 11:38 .
#32
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:46
#33
Posté 08 avril 2010 - 11:50
#34
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 12:00
And in Origins, who did Wynne murder? She's more of a tattletale than an informant. Dog definitely is not a lowlife.
Modifié par mousestalker, 09 avril 2010 - 12:02 .
#35
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 12:07
2. Sigrun. Legion of the Dead party member who just is so incredibly adorable. A winning combination. And great VA too.
3. I have only played through awakening once and I only recruited 3 characters so I don't know.
Modifié par Gaddmeister, 09 avril 2010 - 12:07 .
#36
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 12:09
Well Nathaniel and Sigrun doesn't really have that well fleshed out backgrounds, but I admit we don't know about those two, but they are still the scum of society (One Thief/Beggar and the other planned murderer and thief). And Wynne certainly tried to kill me by boring me to death (I usually murder her which is why I forgot about hermousestalker wrote...
Who did Nathaniel kill? And I thought Sigrun was a thief, not a murderer.
And in Origins, who did Wynne murder? She's more of a tattletale than an informant. Dog definitely is not a lowlife.
#37
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 12:54
CybAnt1 wrote...
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
Actually, she was tricked by darkspawn into thinking humans had kidnapped her sister.
Yes, I would have acted differently if she did know; I think most people would have. But she didn't.
Humans, yes. The soldiers, specifically, but not the merchants. She knew they had nothing to do with it, she was just having her own private genocide.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Well they might not have any direct involvement with her sisters disappearance, but they were humans and for her all humans were to blame for her sisters disappearance.
And can you mention ONE companion (justice doesn't count as he is practically a newborn) which isn't a murderer/mass-murderer? All of our companions are the scum of society.
Edit: Except Alistair, he is just a douche...
Well, first off, Alistair isn't even remotely a douche. Pretty much the opposite. But I digress....
Morrigan's outlook is pretty bleak, but she killed to protect herself, assuming that she killed Templars, as well as Flemeth. She certainly caused the death of the Chasind man in the town when he identified her as a witch. Not the best scenario, but still self defense. Leliana's past is problematic, but she's trying to move beyond it and become a better person. Velanna shows no remorse what so ever. I have significant problems with Zevran and his attitude toward killing, but Velanna had choices that Zevran didn't have. Her life didn't depend on killing helpless merchants.
Killing people just because they're human makes as much sense as the PC deciding to kill all the Dalish because Velanna killed the merchants. It's killing people who had nothing to do with it., and quite insane.
Modifié par errant_knight, 09 avril 2010 - 01:07 .
#38
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 01:26
and that it was "more fun this way" before I slaughtered them all
if that's not insane, I don't know what is!
and also, what's wrong with Zevran's attitude towards killing people?
some people do just need killing
#39
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 02:37
And if there were a bi character... *nods assuredly at Anders*
1.a) My HMN was in a relationship with Lel, but the game makes it seem as if the relationships with Lel and Zev are on hold, so I don't think it counts as cheating. If so, then yes. As for my HNF, I'd only know if it were possible.
2) Velanna. I pitied her and would like to see her plot developed. As for her character, she can be grating, but most people don't understand the viewpoint of someone living a life of oppression and discrimination. (Yes she is Dalish and not a city elf, but remember why it is that the Dalish travel and do not settle to begin with.) She did something stupid and very bad, but she is not irredeemable. If you have a very high approval rate from her and took her to Amaranthine her epilogue is one of the most satisfying and shows that she is not rooted in her hatred.
3) Justice, probably. Just didn't click with him.
#40
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 04:52
1.A) My HMN would not cheat on Leliana. She basically adores my ass, and since she is unhardened, she would probably kill herself if I were to do something like that, considering her reaction if I were to sacrifice myself to the Archdemon. Plus I got a hot witch out there with my kid, really enough girl problems to deal with.
2. Nathaniel was my favorite. It was interesting to see my HMN become good friends with him, despite his father killing off mots of my family. He had the most development anyways, Justice was cool for awhile, but all he knew about was Justice.
3. Either Sigrun or Velanna. All though I said I would like them for romances, I havent really explored there characters that much. I still play Origins alot more then Awakening, but I plan on trying to get more of there story next time I import.
#41
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:21
Is it so different from what we're told the Dalish generally do to humans who come too close to their camps?errant_knight wrote...
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
#42
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:21
CybAnt1 wrote...
OK, let's talk about something else than what we don't like in Awakening.
There seem to be a strange shortage of character-focussed threads about the A chars, (and some might argue for good reason), but ... let's kick this off.
1) If you could have romanced someone in Awakening, who would it have been? (Feel free to argue which if any should have been bisexual. It seems many think Anders was because he has an earring and acts dandyish, but he said it one point he just likes girls.)
1a) Would you have cheated on your "SO" from Origins to do so? If your "SO" was Queen Anora (who I'm still convinced not only doesn't love you but doesn't even really like you) or Morrigan (the ditchy witchy?)
2) Of the Awakening companions, which would you like to see again most? If you could have just had a longer, deeper friendship with one of them, who would it have been?
3) Oghren's been discussed to death. Other than Oghren, who did you like the least? (Seems Velanna is high in the competition here.)
1) For my male characters, Mhairi (if she didn't die), second choice would be Sigrun.For my female characters, Nathaniel and Anders.For my bisexual/gay characters, Anders for the boys ( Edit: and Sigrun for the girls.)
1a) No.If my PC was married to Anora, yes.
2) Nathaniel.He's a likable character once my PC got to know him.
3) Velanna. She's so over the top with being angry that it's annoying.Also the way she talks, it's like shes highly caffeinated and paranoid.
Modifié par Alyka, 09 avril 2010 - 07:01 .
#43
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:43
CybAnt1 wrote...
OK, let's talk about something else than what we don't like in Awakening.
There seem to be a strange shortage of character-focussed threads about the A chars, (and some might argue for good reason), but ... let's kick this off.
1) If you could have romanced someone in Awakening, who would it have been? (Feel free to argue which if any should have been bisexual. It seems many think Anders was because he has an earring and acts dandyish, but he said it one point he just likes girls.)
1a) Would you have cheated on your "SO" from Origins to do so? If your "SO" was Queen Anora (who I'm still convinced not only doesn't love you but doesn't even really like you) or Morrigan (the ditchy witchy?)
2) Of the Awakening companions, which would you like to see again most? If you could have just had a longer, deeper friendship with one of them, who would it have been?
3) Oghren's been discussed to death. Other than Oghren, who did you like the least? (Seems Velanna is high in the competition here.)
1) It's a toss up between Ander's and Nathaniel. But I seem to lean more towards Ander's because he seems so high spirited, fun and energetic, sweet, charming and playful I guess I want to say. Nathaniel, he's sweet and charming and has some of Ander's qualities also but he seems a little to serious for me.
Edit: I forgot Ander's kitty. How can you resist a guy who loves cats
1a) I married Alistair for love
2) Ander's lol
3) Velanna
Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 09 avril 2010 - 05:47 .
#44
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:43
For my bisexual characters, Anders.
Fascinating. Everybody assumes he's bi. (Maybe he's supposed to be, dunno.)
I guess a guy running around in a skirt (like Oghren says), with an earring, who spends much of his time saying cute nothings to a kitten, and acts all foppish and dandyish comes across that way.
BTW, I had a suspicion he had something going with Namaya at some point. (But part of her hostility was that it had been broken off.)
#45
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:52
Addai67 wrote...
Is it so different from what we're told the Dalish generally do to humans who come too close to their camps?errant_knight wrote...
Well, I suppose one of the reasons people hate Velanna is that she's a mass murderer who killed a bunch of people that she knew had absolutely nothing to do with her sister's disappearance. Her manners are the least of her issues.
I think 'generally' is probably too strong a term there. The group we encountered were going to drive us off, not kill us, and in the Dalish origin, you can play it either way. If they really do kill random hunters just for walking too close to their camps, I can't say I think much of that either. But that's kind of beside the point as I do think it's different. In that case they would be killing trespassers--harsh if they were there by accident and with no harm in mind, but marginally justifiable. Velanna was seeking them out, and not in the woods, but on roads that are free for all to travel. That's different.
#46
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 06:05
2) I stayed with Leliana from the begining till the end. I allowed my PC to flirt with Anders, but I would not cheat on my favorite bard.
3) Anders, Nate and Justice get my vote for return. Anders on the top with the other two slightly behind. He was my Cousland's broham since the start of Awakening.
4) No one. While he doesn't count, Varel pissed me off at times however.
#47
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 07:00
CybAnt1 wrote...
For my bisexual characters, Anders.
Fascinating. Everybody assumes he's bi. (Maybe he's supposed to be, dunno.)
I guess a guy running around in a skirt (like Oghren says), with an earring, who spends much of his time saying cute nothings to a kitten, and acts all foppish and dandyish comes across that way.
BTW, I had a suspicion he had something going with Namaya at some point. (But part of her hostility was that it had been broken off.)
I forgot to specify who my bi/gay PC's would go for, both boys and girls. I edited my post.
I don't assume Anders is bi, he said he would like to find a girl.But I would have a romance with him if he was.
It's just that he seems more eccentric and easy-going than Nathaniel who is a bit stoic.And Anders seems to appreciate the finer things in life.Plus he's attractive.I think he would be a good choice for my PC.
#48
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 07:44
HNF --> Nathaniel (after a lot of issues can/would be sorted out) / Anders (maybe)
Male dalish ---> Mhairi. Wait. What? Oh shucks. Well, I guess he'd go for Sigrun
1a) My only male PC is the only one who I would import to Awakening, and I believe he wouldn't think of it. He fell very hard for Morrigan.
My girls are done. Their story ended in Origins. They will not ever be imported because Zevran and the surrounding issues clash horribly with the Zevran in Origins, imo.
2) Nathaniel, Sigrun
3) Get rid of the Oghren impostor, and find the real Oghren. I hope he isn't dead like Weylon. I suspect the Dragon Cult, even though I thought my PCs got all the cultists. I guess they were wrong.
Other than that, I don't know. I've felt no real connection to any of them, actually. Although Velanna is irritating. Not interesting-irritating, just irritating. Like an insect bite.
Modifié par Sabriana, 09 avril 2010 - 07:44 .
#49
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 08:16
1a) Depends on the character, and the state of my Origins romance. If my romanced one is alive and well, and my character has any ethics, then not a chance in hell, if the relationship is still on. If the relationship had ended, the LI dead, or the character is only in it for "fun", then hell yes. And of course, brand-new Orlesian Wardens always up for some lovin.
2) Other than Anders, Sigrun. I really like the dwarf. Then probably Nathaniel. There's a certain wide-eyed purity to him that I like. I'd like both to come back.
3) Velanna. Really "elfy" elves get on my nerves. Zevran was the only elf in origins I had any love or respect for. Most I just want to kick the crap out of.
#50
Posté 09 avril 2010 - 09:35
I mean, Duncan had an earring, and he has the potential to be the biggest macho-man around.





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