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[ccconda]

vhatever wrote...



the commies

lol:whistle:

[ArmedChimp]

Payne by name wrote...

I’m not trying to be a troll but I’m intrigued to see how many people that loved ME2, also loved Avatar.
 
I only say this, as I seem to be in the minority of those that thought it a very average film and hardly worthy of the 12 year absence and cries that cinema would never be the same again. Yes it was visually impressive but it was also desperately predictable. Dances with Wolves meets Apocalypto but not as good as either of those.
 
Yet with so many people/critics heaping praise on Avatar and now so many seemingly doing the same with ME2, it only enhances a feeling that I really must be separated from the majority of people.
 
Obviously I’m in the minority, and that’s fine, but it has been bemusing going through the ‘why isn’t everyone else disappointed with this’ for Avatar and then feeling exactly the same with Mass Effect 2.

Because from all the praise you're hearing you're raising expectancies to abnormal levels that no game developer would ever hope to achieve.

Same deal with GTA 4. Tons of game critics calling it the best thing since sliced bread. Got people super excited (including myself) and when I finally played the game it was a pretty meh feeling all over. Same thing with Zero Punctuation and Portal, overhyping the game making it seem like the greatest thing ever you try it and you're constantly left with a "Is this it feeling?".

The problem isn't that both avatar or mass effect 2 are bad. The problem is people are hyping it up to such proportions where the customer expectancies vastly exceed the delivered product. Pretty much like Molyneux hypes up Fable.

[ccconda]

apoligists are pointless. A game can't be 'average' without someone saying 'but you only THINK its average!"

[Inquisitor Recon]

ccconda wrote...

vhatever wrote...



the commies

lol:whistle:

Have you looked at Hollywood lately? The funny thing is that if behaved like those actors want us to, we couldn't pay to see their movies and make them rich. And they never put their money where their mouth is, because they are the ones "raising awareness."

The coolest thing about Avatar is probably the light attack VTOL aircraft.

[MisterMonkeyBanana]

Hurbster wrote...

Stupid analogy, go chase shadows somewhere else.

I applaud the cleverness of this comeback. A gold star to that man!

Also... Avatar, I didn't enjoy it, it was preachy, heavy-handed and I didn't click with the Na'vi one bit. The story was so simplistic that I predicted every plot point, flat characters, an entire race of mary sue's and one waste of money that happened to be very pretty.

ME2 I loved however, whatever people say, it was a RPG to me and a damn fine one.

[StarscreamOwns]

Some people just like to go against the grain on purpose.

[Girchou]

At least ME2 can come up with good element names.........



None of this Unobtanium bull crap......

[BellatrixLugosi]

Girchou wrote...

At least ME2 can come up with good element names.........

None of this Unobtanium bull crap......

In engineering,
fiction,
or thought experiments, unobtainium
(also spelled unobtanium) is any extremely rare, costly, or
physically impossible material, or (less commonly) device needed to
fulfil a given design for a given application. The properties of any
particular unobtainium depend on the intended use. For example, a pulley
made of unobtainium might be massless and frictionless. However, if
used in a nuclear rocket, unobtainium would be light, strong at high
temperatures, and resistant to radiation damage. The concept of
unobtainium is often applied flippantly or humorously.

[Xenon]

Mass Effect 2 is pretty much amazing. Avatar... was bad. And far to long. And the characters were hackneyed and cliche. I remember playing Mass Effect 2 for the first time and was so afraid I would die on the suicide mission. While watching Avatar, I was so hoping Quaritch and the Marines would massacre the Na'vi. Avatar was just flashy visual effects. Mass Effect 2 had all that and emotional involvement.

[Vivace]

Loved them both, honestly.

[Astranagant]

What does Avatar have to do with ME2? That's stupid. ME2 is nothing like Dances With Wolves in space.



ME isn't about some priveliged white guy throwing off the trappings of white society and joining an alien culture and rising to power to dominate from within to fulfill the writers' white guilt fantasy of saving the indians from his fellow white man.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I loved ME2 and enjoyed a lot Avatar. Screw the haters.

[Zinoviy]

Maybe I don't understand the context of your question, or your question at all, but I don't see the connection between Mass Effect 2 and Avatar, or what liking one of them has to do with the other.





The Mass Effect trilogy is badass, end of story. Avatar was visually badass, but the story was meh. I DON'T find Mass Effect to be "meh" at all - I've played through both games at least 3 times each and every time I'm moved by the power of it all.

[ShadyKat]

casedawgz wrote...

Man, sometimes you just want to see a bunch of dragons fighting helicopters and robots.

/Thread

[ImperialOperative]

ShadyKat wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

Man, sometimes you just want to see a bunch of dragons fighting helicopters and robots.

/Thread

lolwut?

I saw no dragons in Avatar.

All I saw was blue cat people with Disney Eyes ™ getting their trees burned down by the Evil White Hicks, and a whole bunch of watered down dinosaurs with LED lights glowing everywhere and USB plugs.

[Landline]

I freaking loved ME2, still do.



I just couldn't watch avatar for the life of me... Probably because my sympathy's were with the "bad guys"

[tempAE0F]

General discussion needs to be shutdown. Too much spam by too many bored people.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

ImperialOperative wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

Man, sometimes you just want to see a bunch of dragons fighting helicopters and robots.

/Thread

lolwut?

I saw no dragons in Avatar.

All I saw was blue cat people with Disney Eyes ™ getting their trees burned down by the Evil White Hicks, and a whole bunch of watered down dinosaurs with LED lights glowing everywhere and USB plugs.

How could you miss the flying giant lizards? Seriously?

On topic, Avatar was Dances With wolves/Pocahontas in space, yes. Visually awesome, story line not so much.

ME 2 I liked. Yes it has its flaws but it isn't rehashed crap like Avatar is.

[darksporks]

i loved both me2 and avatar

[instantdeath999]

Odd comparison.  I thought Avatar was a very average, but somewhat fun pop corn movie... I thought ME2 was one of the best, most compelling games I've ever played.

[ImperialOperative]

Shinian2 wrote...

How could you miss the flying giant lizards? Seriously?

On topic, Avatar was Dances With wolves/Pocahontas in space, yes. Visually awesome, story line not so much.

ME 2 I liked. Yes it has its flaws but it isn't rehashed crap like Avatar is.

Yes I noticed the rainbow coloured pterodactyls.  Wasn't impressed.

I'm greatly offended that anybody would dare compare something like that to a dragon.  Utterly disgusted.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 09 avril 2010 - 04:00 .

[Masticetobbacco]

avatar was great, I have no idea what you guys are complaining about. Is it the plot? aww come on you don't watch a friggin sci fi action movie for a tear breaking, shakesperian lulz worthy, drama literary flick. I know many of you were attracted to the movie as soon as you saw the trailer. The movie aesthetically pleased my eyes so much, that I came in the theatre at least 2 times.



You watched it for the the robots and helicopters fight the aliens on dragons in stunningly amazing CGI, and the white guy being the super cool awesome person of a native tribe because he did something that no one did in over 9000 years and gets to have secks with a hot alien chick. The only reason you didn't like it, is if you were a spoiled ****.got or a feminist.

[Cowboy_christo]

Welcome to the world of overhype. Set your standards lower and you wont be dissapointed.



As for avatar, it was a bliss for the eye but the story was just a rehash of dance with the wolves and everyone know it but all i can say is PPL LOVED IT ANYWAY. Seriously, ppl dont care if you use the same thing over and over as long as it has new colors they are fine with it. Best exemple are MMO where its nothing but grind after grind and fighting slightly different boss for slightly better item so you can fight slightly different boss but stronger boss and so on. Eccck anyway enough with this, i already spent enough time arguing this topic on the movie forum that i frequent.

[ImperialOperative]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

avatar was great, I have no idea what you guys are complaining about. Is it the plot? aww come on you don't watch a friggin sci fi action movie for a tear breaking, shakesperian lulz worthy, drama literary flick. I know many of you were attracted to the movie as soon as you saw the trailer. The movie aesthetically pleased my eyes so much, that I came in the theatre at least 2 times.

You watched it for the the robots and helicopters fight the aliens on dragons in stunningly amazing CGI, and the white guy being the super cool awesome person of a native tribe because he did something that no one did in over 9000 years and gets to have secks with a hot alien chick. The only reason you didn't like it, is if you were a spoiled ****.got or a feminist.

win

[Cascadus]

I thought Avatar was okay. Not great. Okay. ME2 on the other hand I thought was great, even though I would always lament the fact it could of been so much more.