i see new Mass Effect 2 DLC was released, now being promised DLC with the 1200 point Cerberus network, I of course figured this would be a free download. NEWP. As it turns out, it's cool to go back on saying that Cerberus Network will have FREE DLC (yes, other than that bull**** Zaeed and piece of armor).
So can someone explain why the Cerberus network would be 1200 freaking points, if new content is going to ALSO cost money? Seems like a rip-off completely. (I did get the network with purchase, but it does cost 1200, so it is not really free despite a lot of people getting it that way)
So... Cerberus Network, WTF.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 10:05
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this topic is already being discussed here, http://social.biowar...3/index/2128114
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 10:18
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Because not every single DLC will be released as Cerberus Network Download. Simple as that. Who said that BW will not release anything for free anymore? Patience, mate.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 10:51
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im just wondering, but did you buy the game used? because cerberus network comes with new copies of ME2, and you might have just wasted $15 (1200 point equivelent)
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 10:55
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Rivercurse wrote...
um, do people have pictures ready for anything?
its kinda scary how fast people post pictures...
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 11:02
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JLBoyyy wrote...
Rivercurse wrote...
um, do people have pictures ready for anything?
its kinda scary how fast people post pictures...
Its just an image search
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 11:43
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JLBoyyy wrote...
im just wondering, but did you buy the game used? because cerberus network comes with new copies of ME2, and you might have just wasted $15 (1200 point equivelent)
"I did get the network with purchase..." Still, 70 bucks for the game, plus a 15 dollar content downloader, you'd think that much money for a single game might warrent the free content that was promised.
As for the "cry moar" face, I'm sure it does seem to just ****ing and moaning to a lot of people, however to someone that is as poor as myself, they might be a liiiittle more opposed to obvious money grabbing attempts
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 12:44
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I... don't understand at all.
You bought the game, which isn't even 70 bucks, came with the FREE Cerberus Network code, and are some how complaining about having to buy it? You only need to buy it if A. You bought the game off and friend, who had already used the Cerberus network card, or Ebay.
As for DLC; Zaeed, Hammerhead, Armor and Guns were free. The only peices of DLC that you have to pay for is Kasumi, for 7 bucks, and the Alternate Appearance pack which many people didn't get anyway, believe that was what, 3 dollars there?
You got QUITE a bang for your buck with the standard edition. I'm not saying 'Stop QQ'ing', I am saying to stop and re-consider just how much you spent, and how much you got.
If you bought it from a friend and thus had no Cerberus access card, that's your own damn fault.
You bought the game, which isn't even 70 bucks, came with the FREE Cerberus Network code, and are some how complaining about having to buy it? You only need to buy it if A. You bought the game off and friend, who had already used the Cerberus network card, or Ebay.
As for DLC; Zaeed, Hammerhead, Armor and Guns were free. The only peices of DLC that you have to pay for is Kasumi, for 7 bucks, and the Alternate Appearance pack which many people didn't get anyway, believe that was what, 3 dollars there?
You got QUITE a bang for your buck with the standard edition. I'm not saying 'Stop QQ'ing', I am saying to stop and re-consider just how much you spent, and how much you got.
If you bought it from a friend and thus had no Cerberus access card, that's your own damn fault.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 04:38
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*sigh*
Go to the Xbox Marketplace. Look under ME2. Now look next to the Cerberus Network download. Notice the price? 1200 MS points. Simply because you got it bundled for free with your retail purchase of ME2 doesn't change the fact that the CN is a paid service. If BioWare is going to charge people 1200 MS points ($15) to gain access to it's content, then that content better damn well be worth 1200 MS points. At present, it IS NOT. Not by a long shot.
Both GTA4 expansions only cost 1600 MS points and they were absolutely bursting with new content to the point of almost being standalone games. The Fallout 3 expansions are priced at only 800 MS points and almost everyone will agree that they're some of the richest and most value-packed DLCs ever released. What do you get for your 1200 MS points in the Cerberus Network?
One character with no recruitment mission, the shortest loyalty mission of everyone and no conversation outside of his mission save for random bits of dialog; a five-minute hide'n'seek nostalgia trip; a new suit of armor that no one uses because you can't remove the helmet and a shotgun that doesn't seem much different than the ones already included with the game; a handful of heavy weapons; and the Hammerhead with 5 three-minute missions. Is that 1200 MS points worth of content? Hardly. Compared to the aforementioned expansions, it seems downright insulting.
But BioWare/EA are damned either way. They either create and give away $15 worth of free content to everyone who buys the game new or they charge a fair price for the content they've delivered (around $6 imo) and weaken their purchasing incentive. Which is why I think the incentive program is ultimately destined to fail.
Go to the Xbox Marketplace. Look under ME2. Now look next to the Cerberus Network download. Notice the price? 1200 MS points. Simply because you got it bundled for free with your retail purchase of ME2 doesn't change the fact that the CN is a paid service. If BioWare is going to charge people 1200 MS points ($15) to gain access to it's content, then that content better damn well be worth 1200 MS points. At present, it IS NOT. Not by a long shot.
Both GTA4 expansions only cost 1600 MS points and they were absolutely bursting with new content to the point of almost being standalone games. The Fallout 3 expansions are priced at only 800 MS points and almost everyone will agree that they're some of the richest and most value-packed DLCs ever released. What do you get for your 1200 MS points in the Cerberus Network?
One character with no recruitment mission, the shortest loyalty mission of everyone and no conversation outside of his mission save for random bits of dialog; a five-minute hide'n'seek nostalgia trip; a new suit of armor that no one uses because you can't remove the helmet and a shotgun that doesn't seem much different than the ones already included with the game; a handful of heavy weapons; and the Hammerhead with 5 three-minute missions. Is that 1200 MS points worth of content? Hardly. Compared to the aforementioned expansions, it seems downright insulting.
But BioWare/EA are damned either way. They either create and give away $15 worth of free content to everyone who buys the game new or they charge a fair price for the content they've delivered (around $6 imo) and weaken their purchasing incentive. Which is why I think the incentive program is ultimately destined to fail.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 04:48
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JKoopman wrote...
*sigh*
Go to the Xbox Marketplace. Look under ME2. Now look next to the Cerberus Network download. Notice the price? 1200 MS points. Simply because you got it bundled for free with your retail purchase of ME2 doesn't change the fact that the CN is a paid service. If BioWare is going to charge people 1200 MS points ($15) to gain access to it's content, then that content better damn well be worth 1200 MS points. At present, it IS NOT. Not by a long shot.
*sigh*
CN was bundled free with all copies of Mass Effect 2.
EA/Bioware make no money from preowned games, so it's understandable that they would charge so much for those people to access the free DLC (kasumi and the alt. appearance pack are available thorugh xbox live w/o it)
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 04:52
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Pathetisad wrote...
JKoopman wrote...
*sigh*
Go to the Xbox Marketplace. Look under ME2. Now look next to the Cerberus Network download. Notice the price? 1200 MS points. Simply because you got it bundled for free with your retail purchase of ME2 doesn't change the fact that the CN is a paid service. If BioWare is going to charge people 1200 MS points ($15) to gain access to it's content, then that content better damn well be worth 1200 MS points. At present, it IS NOT. Not by a long shot.
*sigh*
CN was bundled free with all copies of Mass Effect 2.
EA/Bioware make no money from preowned games, so it's understandable that they would charge so much for those people to access the free DLC (kasumi and the alt. appearance pack are available thorugh xbox live w/o it)
So basically, you're saying that since BioWare makes no money off of second-hand sales then they're justified in massively overcharging for lackluster content just to milk every cent they can off these "freeloading" preowned players? I'm sure BioWare would be happy to agree with you, but as a consumer that's not something you should be advocating.
And it doesn't exactly disprove anything I said.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 04:59
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I agree this is crap. I'm ok with some stupid appearance pack or crap armor and weapons as premium dlc; but when it comes to the point where i buy the collectors edition and still don't have access to my whole ****ing ship and all the crew members, i start to get a little pissed off. so i can't wait for when they release another planet to land on and explore or another team member or some new main quests i can play after i beat the ****ing game and everyone died because i dont know when the dam save is that carries over this game to the third one. ****
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:00
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No one is forcing you to buy anything. No one is saying that there won't be more CN DLC either, nor is it said anywhere all DLC would be CN DLC.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:16
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I initially started browsing these forums looking for a solution to "unable to confirm credit card" problem so I could GET the DLC.At this point,I'm glad I can't.I'll wait until there is actually some DLC that is worth the money.Ten minutes of play time and an extra character are not worth 7 bucks of my hard earned money.Of course,that's just my 2 cents worth.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:23
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Kasumi has 90-120 minutes of playtime, a new weapon plus a new squadmember with two new unique powers, one is available as a Bonus Power.
It's still cheaper than viewing a movie in the cinema. Also, you can "view" it as often as you want.
Yes, it could have been a tad cheaper, but do i regret buying the DLC? No.
It's still cheaper than viewing a movie in the cinema. Also, you can "view" it as often as you want.
Yes, it could have been a tad cheaper, but do i regret buying the DLC? No.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:31
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Recnamoken wrote...
Kasumi has 90-120 minutes of playtime, a new weapon plus a new squadmember with two new unique powers, one is available as a Bonus Power.
It's still cheaper than viewing a movie in the cinema. Also, you can "view" it as often as you want.
Yes, it could have been a tad cheaper, but do i regret buying the DLC? No.
Dont get me wrong - i love the kasumi dlc. But it is not two hours long (well maybe it it if you spend an hour looking at the view).
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:45
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JKoopman wrote...
Pathetisad wrote...
JKoopman wrote...
*sigh*
Go to the Xbox Marketplace. Look under ME2. Now look next to the Cerberus Network download. Notice the price? 1200 MS points. Simply because you got it bundled for free with your retail purchase of ME2 doesn't change the fact that the CN is a paid service. If BioWare is going to charge people 1200 MS points ($15) to gain access to it's content, then that content better damn well be worth 1200 MS points. At present, it IS NOT. Not by a long shot.
*sigh*
CN was bundled free with all copies of Mass Effect 2.
EA/Bioware make no money from preowned games, so it's understandable that they would charge so much for those people to access the free DLC (kasumi and the alt. appearance pack are available thorugh xbox live w/o it)
So basically, you're saying that since BioWare makes no money off of second-hand sales then they're justified in massively overcharging for lackluster content just to milk every cent they can off these "freeloading" preowned players? I'm sure BioWare would be happy to agree with you, but as a consumer that's not something you should be advocating.
And it doesn't exactly disprove anything I said.
Yes, that -is- what we're saying, and that -is- something you should advocate as a consumer, because the only way companies are going to continue to develop awesome games for us is if they can make MONEY off of it. Anything that hurts the developers hurts the gamers.
If the devs don't make money off used game sales, that's one less reason for EA to -fund- a sequel, or development of further free content.
The cerberus network is not a 15$ sale. It is a new purchase incentive. Because honestly, if you love a game and want to support the developers, you should be buying new anyway.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:55
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In the MS Marketplace the Cerberus Network is 1200 MS points, if you bought the game new, go to mass effect 2 website enter the code, ignore the Ms cerberus d/l, they purposely made it expensive to "punish" anyone buying it used. Don't be surprised if you see more of this from EA and other game licensing companies, they want to eliminate the used game market, because they dont make anything off of buying used games.
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 05:58
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if you ask me Bioware has committed fraud, they said the CNC would make ALL dlc free.
as in ALL not just up to a certain point.
if they say that it does one thing so it gets sold and then turn around and do another thing its FRAUD there is no other way to put it
as in ALL not just up to a certain point.
if they say that it does one thing so it gets sold and then turn around and do another thing its FRAUD there is no other way to put it
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Posté 09 avril 2010 - 06:02
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When did they say that?Chris2112534566 wrote...
if you ask me Bioware has committed fraud, they said the CNC would make ALL dlc free.
as in ALL not just up to a certain point.
if they say that it does one thing so it gets sold and then turn around and do another thing its FRAUD there is no other way to put it
I would like to see your source.
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