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#251
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See...myspace, facebook, twitter..all prerequisites to winning in this "contest". I have a twitter account..established a year ago, that I never use. I don't have a myspace, nor a facebook account. Basically those places don't appeal to me, and from what I've read and heard, are places of over the top drama, for drama's sake.



If I wanted to participate in that..I'd watch the Jerry Springer show.

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Like most things, they are what you make them too be. So far no drama llama stuff for me.

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Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:

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Actually you don't need myspace or facebook. I got over 10000 tokens just from Twitter and being on this site.



So they are not prerequisites. Also I don't think you need twitter either to participate. :P

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marquiseondore wrote...

exccw wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

dropdown360 wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

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makenzieshepard wrote...
What happened when I won one of the PC's that everybody in the auction was hoping to get there grubby little mitts on?


Why are people not understanding this?  You won so you have a marginally better view of this event than those who did not.  This is more basic psychology.

The referral links are the reason this event was a failure.  The whole point of the links were so that Bioware could get free advertising.  So what did people do?  They posted to other people who already own Bioware products.

Not to mention I saw you bidding the first day.  You had accumulated quite a pool of tokens before the event even started.  I digress, I'm not here to call you out.  If you care about the other fans, then truly listen to what we are saying.  If you don't want to help get our voice heard, then why post at all?

I don't care about effort or threads or any of that other bull****.  Why should I have to **** myself out with referral links to take part in an auction meant for loyal supporters of Bioware products?  Are you not listening?  Is this a hard concept to understand?  I'm not arguing the fact that some people "worked harder".  I'm arguing that this was for fans and supporters but not all fans and supporters got to participate.


Did you think you would get something for nothing? Come on.  This is an adult version of a school fundraiser, only we are selling a bioware link and not chocolate. 



That's fine and dandy.  But don't sh!t into a bowl and tell us it's chocolate ice cream.  If this for cheap advertising, just say it.  Don't lie to us and tell us that this is for the fans.  People still would have done the link referrals in that instance.  More people would have chosen not to take part for that simple reason and not feel jipped.


I don't think it needs saying.  It's obvious.  I have NEVER seen a giveaway that wasn't about cheap advertising. 

Not arguing against you, just wanted to say I have been in a lot of giveaways where I never had to promote anything. ;)


The toothfairy doesn't count :wizard:

Haha! Possibly! On a more serious note though, I mean such as some of the Alienware or Sapphire contests, or any of the lots you see when you go shopping. Though there's nothing wrong with having fans help promote their games, I mean everyone's a fan of them anyways. :D

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http://www.bioware.c...e_info/contact/



Another disappointed fan here. Directing the rage to where it should be directed. Surely they want our feedback? Ok, here I go..

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Seffie Ocelot wrote...

http://www.bioware.c...e_info/contact/

Another disappointed fan here. Directing the rage to where it should be directed. Surely they want our feedback? Ok, here I go..


Actually that's quite a good idea Seffie and should be done in addition to posting in threads such as these as well.

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marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:


Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.

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You know, this reminds me of that Escapist developer competition where they were all complaining about social media playing too big of a factor. It's the world turned upside down, social media style!

Modifié par exccw, 10 avril 2010 - 07:58 .


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[quote]exccw wrote...

[quote]marquiseondore wrote...

[quote]exccw wrote...

[quote]marquiseondore wrote...

Not arguing against you, just wanted to say I have been in a lot of giveaways where I never had to promote anything. ;)

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The toothfairy doesn't count :wizard:

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Haha! Possibly! On a more serious note though, I mean such as some of the Alienware or Sapphire contests, or any of the lots you see when you go shopping. Though there's nothing wrong with having fans help promote their games, I mean everyone's a fan of them anyways. :D

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I don't know abou Alienware or Sapphire.  But you do know those "giveaways" when shopping are.  They like to take your information and spam you with "offers"

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exccw wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

exccw wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Not arguing against you, just wanted to say I have been in a lot of giveaways where I never had to promote anything. ;)


The toothfairy doesn't count :wizard:

Haha! Possibly! On a more serious note though, I mean such as some of the Alienware or Sapphire contests, or any of the lots you see when you go shopping. Though there's nothing wrong with having fans help promote their games, I mean everyone's a fan of them anyways. :D


I don't know abou Alienware or Sapphire.  But you do know those "giveaways" when shopping are.  They like to take your information and spam you with "offers"

Hmm, you may be right! Though I've never gotten any from the ones I've used. Have to be careful nonetheless!

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Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:


Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


:mellow: yes USA USA :mellow: except for those bastards in NY and FL.  

:devil: And hate me because I won!!!  My points are invalid and show I am talking rubbish.

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Feraele wrote...

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


Haven't seen a single one do that in the last few pages at least.  I and others pointed out your exaggerations, that's certainly true and I make no apologies for that.  In fact I've seen all agree with you to a point and the only response you seem to have is agree with me 100% or GTFO (exaggerated for effect, so if this isn't true feel free to call me on it).  Complain if you wish, just expect to be called out on falsehoods and as this is a public forums expect people to point out that well thought out, reasonable posts are more likely to get a positive response from Bioware than plain old (not totally unwarranted) spleen venting. 

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THe simple fact that they have some bull about no third party support in the rules, like they are really gonna catch people doing it. I know many of those with over 10,000 tokens used some form of spam software to put that link everywhere. Its ridiculous, no one under 9,500 tokens stands a chance not even for a crappy picture.


Well Chris stated they caught some of the perpetrators..and states also that (as far as they know) no cheaters won any of the top prizes.  

But I have a hunch there is more to this than meets the eye, far as methods used and such.   It probably means they can catch "cheaters" that do thing on EA or Bioware related sites, but anywhere else ..they aren't going to know that.  

I think that would be an impossible task..first off.    Just the same ..you know that some will do anything to win.

At any rate,  as I've said before...they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a better plan. 

This time include their loyal fans..all of them.   And make it an even playing ground, everyone starts the same out of the gate.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


Haven't seen a single one do that in the last few pages at least.  I and others pointed out your exaggerations, that's certainly true and I make no apologies for that.  In fact I've seen all agree with you to a point and the only response you seem to have is agree with me 100% or GTFO (exaggerated for effect, so if this isn't true feel free to call me on it).  Complain if you wish, just expect to be called out on falsehoods and as this is a public forums expect people to point out that well thought out, reasonable posts are more likely to get a positive response from Bioware than plain old (not totally unwarranted) spleen venting. 


I'm sorry...but "gtfo" doesn't happen to be in my vocabulary.................next?

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marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:


Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


:mellow: yes USA USA :mellow: except for those bastards in NY and FL.  

:devil: And hate me because I won!!!  My points are invalid and show I am talking rubbish.


And your true nature shows you for what you are.    Thank you for that. :)

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Feraele wrote...

I'm sorry...but "gtfo" doesn't happen to be in my vocabulary.................next?


Here is a handy explanation link: GTFO!

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Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:


Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


:mellow: yes USA USA :mellow: except for those bastards in NY and FL.  

:devil: And hate me because I won!!!  My points are invalid and show I am talking rubbish.


And your true nature shows you for what you are.    Thank you for that. :)


should I have added [insert sense of humor here] ?  :blink:

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marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Yeah I know all about that.....I've been here since before all that started.     It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations.    It means the same people who employed "sketchy" tactics to gain large amounts of tokens..(if tokens are the main theme again..next time) will do so again.    Which means that the ordinary person, who doesn't have a large following, a popular blog,  or a website they own....will never ever be able to keep up with the top dogs..who know all the "tricks".

That is STILL disincluding loyal fans, because they don't know how to compete with that sort of thing.   It still benefits Bioware greatly..(which I don't care about ..just pointing it out)  and only a very very few LOYAL fans will ever see the benefits of it themselves.  

So it comes down to a popularity contest..plain and simple    I have 20 digital friends, I don't tend to make alot of friends..because I don't tend to "collect" them..just because.   Its usually people I see eye to eye with.


I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:


Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.


:mellow: yes USA USA :mellow: except for those bastards in NY and FL.  

:devil: And hate me because I won!!!  My points are invalid and show I am talking rubbish.


And your true nature shows you for what you are.    Thank you for that. :)


should I have added [insert sense of humor here] ?  :blink:


Yes LOL

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There is no humor on the intertubes!

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[quote]Onyx Jaguar wrote...

[quote]marquiseondore wrote...

[quote]Feraele wrote...

[quote]marquiseondore wrote...

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I won an auction.  I don't have a following either.  I'm a hermit, but not antisocial (online and off). I only won a single twitter challenge. I never employed sketchy tactics.  I also didn't start trying to earn tokens until the day of the auction, yet I did win.  And I have reason to believe that I was one of many, not one of few.  Do I think this bazaar was perfect. No. But not a failure either

  "It just means that those that were in the 48 states, will again be
able to participate til the end of the year's celebrations. "

So that should prevent us from participating again. :huh:
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Well there's no way thats going to happen is there? LOL  Obviously you 48 staters were the chosen ones.   The rest of us riffraff have to sit here and watch the goings on........and take flak because we disagree with how this all came down.

Now we have all the contest winners coming into this thread and telling us..we should be happy ....and not criticize how this all went down?  

Thats pretty comical.
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:mellow: yes USA USA :mellow: except for those bastards in NY and FL.  

:devil: And hate me because I won!!!  My points are invalid and show I am talking rubbish.

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And your true nature shows you for what you are.    Thank you for that. :)[/quote]

should I have added [insert sense of humor here] ?  :blink:

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Yes LOL

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See this is why I don't have friends.  No one gets my jokes. :crying:

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damn sarcastic Americans! Can't trust anything that comes out of their mouth!

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

damn sarcastic Americans! Can't trust anything that comes out of their mouth!


Humor is a difficult concept.

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Feraele wrote...

I'm sorry...but "gtfo" doesn't happen to be in my vocabulary.................next?


Here is a handy explanation link: GTFO!


Like I said not in my vocabulary..and not going to be in the future either......so thanks but you can keep it.   Maybe you'll find a use for it.. :P

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I am not a people person. There are people in this community who know that despite my very rarely being active here.



However, I am here to put some faith back into the community by saying I never would have won my auction without help. The people on the Facebook link exhange were very nice and happy to share in the excitement of the chance to win a Bioware prize. One guy even offered to give me his prize if he won because he saw how pumped up I was about it. I thought that was very generous. I find large groups like forums overwhelming because you don't really get a chance to know who you are speaking to with replies flying by in a hundred different threads, but that small sampling on the FB group were a nice bunch of peoples and I hope they won something too.