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[Delta6327]

well i was thinking that this was going to be a more hidden type auction where only people that got the email would be in it and i was thinking it would be like 600 people but im stuck at a nice 3.44k so i can't win anything

[DeviantJoker]

 Hey Lucy, I totally understand where you're coming from. While I am participating in the Auction Thread, it feels more like a community there where people post hilarious images to get posts or you even seen Maria Caliban write a nice little poem for a click. Selfishly-generous, also, it feels good supporting those in the link where you watch them post loyally and not just spamming for clicks.

Of course, then you get the fact that OT is flooded with more than simply 1 page of asking for links. It has spilled and spread out where there are a dozen topics pandering for clicks. And even in the auction thread, they simply post their referral link and then are never to be seen again except on a new day when they need more clicks. And lastly and more abhorently, this.....

You don't post your referral link in a topic where some forumer is talking about his sick relative.

I have not been witnessed to something like that, but that is simply awful.

The bad will often over cloud the good. There are friendly and well meaning users who are participating, who I know you recognize and have posted so wishing us well. So because of that, I do hope BioWare extends this out to "the rest of the community" and later dates. It is fun and I am enjoying myself. The problem with anything good and free, especially when the point is both to celebrate the community and of course share that with those outside the community hoping that might find a place they will enjoy, is that you invite in a lot of... well people who make it look like it was a bad idea in the first place.

Endurance and patience, it works as well as it does outside as it does here. Vent as you need, but I hope just because others may be selfish and immature on the ways they go about with the contest, that it will not ruin it for you or others who may be able to participate in the future.

Anyhow, there's my "defense" of those of us who mean well (and I know you root for us Lucy as you have posted on your first post^.^) and my encouragement of those who will get the chance later. I attempt to keep my "click hunger" to those threads where it would obviously be placed and certainly not let it bother those who wish not to participate.

Modifié par DeviantJoker, 09 avril 2010 - 02:07 .

[Mooner911]

Bioware's merchandise give-away gets 5 stars from everyone. No one can disagree. But I find it suspicious and disturbing that every time Bioware presents one of it's 'good intentions', the company manages to disappoint the majority of people it's trying to please. How is it possible to be so consistent?

- Bioware hooks its global consumer base via a countdown timer and readies its global 'community' for a huge give-away. Yes, it's huge and the items are not at all petty. FTW everyone agrees.

- The timer hits "0" and Bioware announces "OOOPS!" "Unfortunately, we encountered some last-minute legal complications around how contests can be structured in different parts of the world that prevented us from including all territories in this first event, even though that was our original goal." (Ray and Greg). 'scuse me? Last minute? Bioware(EA), a global merchandising company, was innocently unaware of national merchandising laws? Am I the only one who felt a big turd drop on my intelligence? Scratch 90% of the 'community'... but rest assured, "in the coming weeks, we will be announcing details about future events specifically for fans living in those territories which were excluded from participating..." Donkey. Carrot. Another dangling turd?

- Rules state that in order to participate in this latest 'good intention' you must have a Twitter account or be savvy at using questionable tactics to ensure your ability to participate. Scratch another 40-80% of the remaining 'community'.

I've been frequenting Bioware's forums and websites since ME was first released and have seen the "Epic Fail" stamp applied to every 'good intention' the company has announced. From the sloppily and amaturely executed Social Network transition, to the many floundered release announcements, all have managed to acquire an EF rating. I've never subscribed to conspiracy theories but Bioware's unwavering inability to positively execute any 'good intention' is looking more and more like it's deliberate. It's not difficult to avoid screwing up - a bit of pre-deadline testing, some phone calls, some applied KISS philosophy helps navigate around most EF landmines. Perhaps a quick trip to the nearest elementary school for some advice on how to be fair? Perhaps a timely "OOOPS" statement to your 'community' 10 or 12 hours before the EF thread-fest completely overwhelms your forums. Just saying...

I'll continue to buy Bioware's exceptional and superbly crafted games but I really wish they'd quit yelling "F.U." at me between their releases.

[MerinTB]

I am sorry that this is so upsetting to you, Lucy. From the start I do believe that BioWare could have handled this better on multiple levels.

I am not really, however, suspicious of those token tallies - well, maybe that 16K on the first day, maybe, but honestly -

I have over 13k right now, and part of that is from winning 6 of Chris's Challenges. I have all the games registered and everything, too, and yes, I put my referral link in those link exchange threads. I think that was the least annoying thing to do with that method of gathering tokens, personally - mine is not even in my sig - as it only bombards others who are in a thread dedicated to link clicking.

If I, with my meager efforts (I think I entered all the Twitter challenges, and joining Twitter for this was a degradation enough) can reach 13k, I think people who frequent other forums and have websites with good traffic and such could easily have 20k by now just from friends and website visitors.

I used to be a frequent visitor to a site called Creation Matrix to play online Heroclix - if I were still a visitor there like I had been years ago, I'm sure I had several dozen friends there that wouldn't mind clicking a link once a day for me. Other people, especially Facebook using people, I'm sure have similar resources.



In the end, I'm sorry your frustrated. But try to understand that it is pretty easy for people to be at 14k tokens by now.

[Ponce de Leon]

For me it was a completely wrong concept to start with. First, they should have made this only for game owners. Secondly, They should have just randomly take 2000 or so names and give them random prices. Over in one day, and everyone would have been happy. And not the spamfest this place became.

[the_one_54321]

I think this whole contest was a really great idea that ran into a number of problems that may or may not have been possible to anticipate. I hope BioWare uses it as a learning experience.

[chiliztri]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I hope in the future if people don't like these things they learn not to moan so much and just ignore them instead...

Aren't you being hypocritical? It seems you are in this thread complaining about her complaining? It boggles the mind, really.

That said, if they ever really do a contest for those who could not participate, I'm not sure if I'm going to participate if its another auction where I will be forced to **** myself out for some clicks.

[chiliztri]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I hope in the future if people don't like these things they learn not to moan so much and just ignore them instead...

Aren't you being hypocritical? It seems you are in this thread complaining about her complaining? It boggles the mind, really.

That said, if they ever really do a contest for those who could not participate, I'm not sure if I'm going to participate if its another auction where I will be forced to **** myself out for some clicks.

This is a whole thread about complaining and to me seems pointless unlike the Bazaar. Im complaining about pointless complaints. As i said now matter how much we complain nothing will change so why bother. Just ignore it and leave on. If Bioware would close the auction due to complaints then it wouldnt be such a useless thread.

Yes, well you're complaining about this thread is pointless. Nothing is going to change so why bother? We are still going to complain.

Heed your own words and ignore it and move on.

Modifié par chiliztri, 09 avril 2010 - 04:01 .

[the_one_54321]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...
However i have a question.
What is wrong with the Bazaar? Why does it need to be complained about?

Would you like a list of the things that could be done to improve upon it? 

[Hellhawx]

I'll admit, in certain auctions, I look up the winner to see their join date. So far, everyone I've checked has been a member sice Jan or earlier. If I see one person win and registered a week ago, I'll probably get really pissed.

Modifié par Hellhawx, 09 avril 2010 - 04:08 .

[chiliztri]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Eli-da-Mage wrote...
However i have a question.
What is wrong with the Bazaar? Why does it need to be complained about?

Would you like a list of the things that could be done to improve upon it? 

I would like a reason why it needs to be improved.
The Bazaar itself is fine, its all the people spamming in links that are the problem is it not?
Perhaps rather than being annoyed at Bioware you should be annoyed at these individuals/

Did you even read the OP? Who said anything about being annoyed about Bio?

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I am almost positive this will be
locked, but I need to have my voice heard. 

1. Some of the people
that are bidding on this auction have 14k. That is incredibly
suspicious.

2. It's quite obvious through a little investigating
that people have multiple accounts on here for their tokens. It's quite
obvious, if you have a lick of intelligence.

3. This auction was
for the community; i.e, fans, friendly people... now all it is, is a
horde of money grubbers wanting free crap. As soon as this gets
advertised, a whole lot of people come over and suddenly register their
game. Yeah, sure. 

No, this isn't me having a go at BioWare, I
love BioWare. Their intentions are always to make everyone happy, even
if they go about it strangely sometimes. It's me appauled at how
selfish, greedy and downright upsetting some people on this forum are.
This is a place where gaming fans and BW fans alike come to discuss good
quality narrative, production and fun things. This isn't a spam fest
where you post your referral link even in serious, unrelated topics. You
don't post your referral link in a topic where some forumer is talking
about his sick relative. 

I can't wait for this to be over,
because I am goddamn sick of it. I've never felt such hostility toward
anyone on this site before.

To all those people who are bound to
post their referral links after pretending to read my post, I cannot
wait for you to leave. Go, get out. You give our friendly and fun forum a
bad name.

p.s, to those honest, friendly and polite people who
are real fans of BioWare and enjoy this site. Who have either been on
this site for a while or are newcomers with good intentions, I salute
you for being able to have fun with the auction without wanting to go on
a killing rampage. Good luck, and I hope you guys win more great things
before it finishes. 

[savagesparrow]

dark-lauron wrote...

For me it was a completely wrong concept to start with. First, they should have made this only for game owners. Secondly, They should have just randomly take 2000 or so names and give them random prices. Over in one day, and everyone would have been happy. And not the spamfest this place became.

Ah ha, but then people'd be ****ing about how Bioware's forcing them to buy all their games in order to stand a fighting chance ( "I don't wanna get Awakening!! $40 is a rip!" or "DA's ugly, I don' wanna buy it! Boo!" etc). People'd also be ****ing about the randomness of a lottery, too, as chances are people new to the community or non-community participaters in general would still be elligible to win, so then everyone'd STILL be complaining about how unfair it is that they could win. Because the fact is when you have ANY competition, people are going to complain about not winning, because that's what people do. *shrug*

Personally, I think it probably would've been cooler if they had made the auctions for DLC stuff, like weapons upgrades, quests, etc, but I guess that would've been a lot of work. Still though, I'm not complaining, that's just what I thought this whole thing was going to be at first.

And wow, you guys and your six twitter wins. I only won once ;_;  So you see, even though they don't have popular websites, they're still crushing me on lucky awesomeness. It all kinda evens out. Sorta XD 

[chiliztri]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

Alot of peoples comments have said
"BIOWARE should have made it better"
And yes i did read the op

Yes, they could have made it better. Doesn't mean we are pissed off and annoyed with BioWare

[Chris Priestly]

Sorry Lucy. People with thousands of tokens got involved. If you did not get as involved as they did, it is not their fault or ours.

[the_one_54321]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Eli-da-Mage wrote...
However i have a question.
What is wrong with the Bazaar? Why does it need to be complained about?

Would you like a list of the things that could be done to improve upon it?

I would like a reason why it needs to be improved.
The Bazaar itself is fine, its all the people spamming in links that are the problem is it not?
Perhaps rather than being annoyed at Bioware you should be annoyed at these individuals/

And consequently one way they could have improved the auction was to find a way to limit the spamming. It seems they tried, by awarding only 1 token per click per day after the daily limit of 500 was reached. Unfortunately they underestimated peoples ability to really spam these links. This is something they can learn from.

I do agree that it should possibly have been limited to those that took the time to register their games, and have excluded those that didnt' have at least one game registered.

The whole point of this is for BioWare to sell more games after all.

[the_one_54321]

Chris Priestly wrote...
Sorry Lucy. People with thousands of tokens got involved. If you did not get as involved as they did, it is not their fault or ours.

I don't realy disagree with this. But as I said earlier, I think there are ways this could be significantly improved upon in the future. I hope you guys use this event as a learning experience for the future.

[chiliztri]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry Lucy. People with thousands of tokens got involved. If you did not get as involved as they did, it is not their fault or ours.

She can't get involved anyways since she doesn't live in the U.S.A.

[waryndo]

social.bioware.com/brc/1196414

[DalishRanger]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...
This isn't a spam fest where you post your referral link even in serious, unrelated topics. You don't post your referral link in a topic where some forumer is talking about his sick relative. 

Indeed. Someone spammed my fan art topic last night, and while it's been slow there for a few days and the post made it bump back up towards the top of the Community Creations section, I was NOT at all pleased. It's one thing to make topics/group discussions specifically for posting token links/help people get tokens, but a whole 'nother thing to spam unrelated topics with it.