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Reason that Mass Effect 2 squadmatess will NOT be in ME3


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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

And M(SPOILERS), and Jory, and Daveth, and (Guy from KOTOR), and Human Noble mother/guard, and Tamlen, and other chick I can't remember, and your cousin, and Jowan, and Gorim, and Leske

Hey I think Jade Empire might have averted this trend :bandit:


Trask Ulgo in KOTOR.  I think JE is the only one....but you only ever had like one person that followed you.  Dawn Star was your first JE companion and she STUCK BY YOUR SIDE UNTIL THE END!!  I love you Dawn Star!  :kissing:

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okay this is probably really going to make alot of people hate me, like the talimancers (hey i love tali too, but bioware is sadistic).

The way i see it there is a 70% chance that all team members (who are alive of course) will be returning. However whether they are an NPC or recruitable team member will differ by person, and hopefully decisions you make. For example, if Tali is exiled then where will she go, honestly? but if not, she may show up on the admiralty board, as was hinted at in conversation with her, leaving her as an NPC. While with someone like Garrus, where is he going? Im about 90% sure he will return as a teammember, barring the 30% which i will discuss in a moment. Downloaded characters will likely be left out, i dont see them coming back, unless you pay Zaeed some more money, but who would do that?

Now for that last 30%, the part that will ****** you off. After mass effect 1 i realized that bioware truly does like seeing the people that play their games squirm with pain. They took away all love interest possiblities, because they could. What is to stop them from doing this in ME3? But, this is about 90% of the team, so say goodbye to: Tali, Garrus, Jacob, Miranda, Thane, Ashley/Kaiden, and Liara. As i stated later they could be NPC's, but because BioWare is just fun this way, i give a 30% chance that they flip a 180 from killing YOU at the beginning of the game, and instead just kill ALL OF YOUR TEAMMATES. Oh yes, i know many of you are putting my name on a dartboard for saying that (talimancers), but i dont see why they wouldnt, they definately set alot of the characters up. Tali (if romanced) made it very, VERY clear that she could die if you two...you know. Thane says he is dying (his death is about a 90% between games). And they can probably add random reasons for the others to die (garrus gets infected from injuries and dies, samara dies of old age, i shoot legion out the airlock, etc. etc.).


well right now its just all speculation and crackpot theories. But one thing I do agree with you, Bioware likes to make poeple squirm.^_^

Modifié par Shazzammer2, 09 avril 2010 - 06:41 .


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Both ME's had temp characters that got killed in the intro (Jenkins and Wilson). Sorry TAO, but your argument is invalid and based on faulty logic.

Anyway, I have a feeling after ME2 there will only be 2 active squadmates left for ME3, depending on if they live of course: Jacob and Garrus.
-Miranda is likely resolving things with her sister or working with TIM (depending on the ending)
-Mordin will likely be an NPC in the science lab and no longer a squadmate.
-Tali will probably be back with the Migrant Fleet (even if Exiled), working on the Quarian/Geth issue. Yes, I hope she would be recruitable.
-Legion will also be on the other side of that conflict. Yes, i hope he is recruitable.
-Samara/Morinth have likely gon back to what she was doing previously. No commitment. Likely only a cameo, as she was really just an asari placeholder for Liara (who has a 90% chance of being a squadmate IMO).
-Grunt is probably on Tuchanka fulfilling his responsibilities. Likely recruitable though.
-Jack is likely off looking for more cerberus agents (more on this later). Likely recruitable.
-Thane is probably on the Citadel with Kolyat. Might be recruitable, depending on timeframe and/or if his reruitment quest involves finding/recovering a cure.

Here is the fun part. The reason they aren't in your party? Gives an opportunity to not have them if they dies. Also, they are ALL likely following Shepard's orders. Either laying low, or performing missions necessary to move the plot along.
I picked Jacob and Garrus to stay specifically since Garrus really has nowhere to go (although he could be on a mission). Additionally, (depending on ending) Jacob would be the ideal temp XO as Miranda rendezvous with TIM or is advising on being a Corsair (I think that is why it was mentioned in ME - so that it would be the likely starting "Neutral" position for ME3)

Modifié par uhdnrt, 09 avril 2010 - 06:49 .


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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Valmy wrote...

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No more Wilson's that **** is also getting old.


Well...characters that temporary are alright.  I didn't really have strong feelings about him in the 15 seconds he was in the group.


Thats EXACTLY why they are pointless


You can't compare Jenkins/Wilson situation to a temporary mission alongside past squad mates.

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So what I am getting is that people like me who had everyone survive must suffer because morons lost there squad? It is so easy to get everyone outalive it's not funny.

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Guys, the squadmates are coming back in ME3 unless you killed them off in the suicide mission. The fan base for some of these members are way to big to just toss out completely in the third game.

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I am not saying they won't be in the game - just that it is highly likely that you will start out with only 2 until you can rescue/recruit them all again.

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YAY FOR METROID SYNDROME!!!

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uhdnrt wrote...

I am not saying they won't be in the game - just that it is highly likely that you will start out with only 2 until you can rescue/recruit them all again.


Ah, ... opening plot twist!

But there, it's more likely one of ME1 characters (Liara or Ashley/Kaidan) will be in the starting duo, and one new.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 10 avril 2010 - 12:58 .


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I think it's more likely that we will see Samara, Grunt, Mordin, and Legion than the others. We aren't going to have a ship full of LIs and it would be unfair to be able to recruit Miranda and not Tali, or vice versa.

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I'm thinking ME3 is going to take place relatively soon after ME2 and that while it will be a full sequel, it'll be expanding on ME2 much like Awaken did for DA:O. In fact I'd pretty much bank on that, seems incredibly likely.

The only thing that's highly unlikely to happen is that they're going to start us off at a clean slate again in ME3 and have Shepard going around the galaxy in a new Normandy recruiting a whole new squad for another suicide mission.

There'll be characters returning from ME1 and a few new squaddies, but more than likely all squaddies from ME2 are coming back. LI's are a lock pretty much. Mordin is obviously very important and incredibly popular. Grunt isn't likely to be thrown to the waste sides either Shep is his battlemaster, the Normandy crew is his krant, and it's doubtful they'd just let Legion, there's a lot they could do with him and I'm sure a lot they have planned.

I'd say only the DLC characters have a decreased chance of making the cut, and Samara. And if the fans demand it they'll probably be there too.

Really when it comes down to it squaddie deaths in ME2 are a choice by the player. Unless you're an total complete retard the only squaddies dying in the suicide mission are the ones you don't like.

Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 10 avril 2010 - 01:09 .


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Guaranteed squadmates for ME3

Liara
Ashley/Kaidan

Very likely

Miranda
Tali
Garrus

Somewhat likely

Jack
Thane
Jacob

+ At least 2 new squad members.

Modifié par Golden-Rose, 10 avril 2010 - 01:08 .


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Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

I'm thinking ME3 is going to take place relatively soon after ME2 and that while it will be a full sequel, it'll be expanding on ME2 much like Awaken did for DA:O. In fact I'd pretty much bank on that, seems incredibly likely.

The only thing that's highly unlikely to happen is that they're going to start us off at a clean slate again in ME3 and have Shepard going around the galaxy in a new Normandy recruiting a whole new squad for another suicide mission.

There'll be characters returning from ME1 and a few new squaddies, but more than likely all squaddies from ME2 are coming back. LI's are a lock pretty much. Mordin is obviously very important and incredibly popular. Grunt isn't likely to be thrown to the waste sides either, Shep is his battlemaster. Really only the DLC characters have a decreased chance of making the cut, and if the fans demand it they'll probably be there too.

Really when it comes down to it there deaths in ME2 are a choice by the player. Unless you're an total complete retard the only squaddies dying in the suicide mission are the ones you don't like.


I liked Mordin very much and killed him on pupose - to give an epic ending to his career. And now you're telling me that I'll miss A huge chunk of ME3, just because Mordin is popular in general. Great. But I think the devs should live up to their "suicide mission" blabbering. "Nobody left behind" medal was an insult enough.

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I think Garrus, Grunt, and Tali will, and maybe even Miranda . . . if they let us choose to stay with Cerberus or not

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Zulu_DFA wrote...
I liked Mordin very much and killed him on pupose - to give an epic ending to his career. And now you're telling me that I'll miss A huge chunk of ME3, just because Mordin is popular in general. Great. But I think the devs should live up to their "suicide mission" blabbering. "Nobody left behind" medal was an insult enough.

You're obviously not very intelligent. You made a decision, yes you should have to suffer the consequences. Don't like it? Start a new game. Same goes for every other choice you made in your game. Nothing else to say about this.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...
I liked Mordin very much and killed him on pupose - to give an epic ending to his career. And now you're telling me that I'll miss A huge chunk of ME3, just because Mordin is popular in general. Great. But I think the devs should live up to their "suicide mission" blabbering. "Nobody left behind" medal was an insult enough.


I like that you make this post and whine about "BIG CHOICES" in your sig.

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Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...
I liked Mordin very much and killed him on pupose - to give an epic ending to his career. And now you're telling me that I'll miss A huge chunk of ME3, just because Mordin is popular in general. Great. But I think the devs should live up to their "suicide mission" blabbering. "Nobody left behind" medal was an insult enough.

You're obviously not very intelligent. You made a decision, yes you should have to suffer the consequences. Don't like it? Start a new game. Same goes for every other choice you made in your game. Nothing else to say about this.


You're obviously not very intelligent. "Suicide mission" means nobody was expected to make it back. Which means those lucky enough to be saved by our not so retarded "choices" can't play major role in the sequel. Or else, all the "suicide mission" blabbering was an outright bluff, and the ME2 story is even cheaper than it looks with all the gameplay "adjustments" and "squad on the shuttle" plot holes. If ME3 story is that cheap, I am not buying it.

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Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...
I liked Mordin very much and killed him on pupose - to give an epic ending to his career. And now you're telling me that I'll miss A huge chunk of ME3, just because Mordin is popular in general. Great. But I think the devs should live up to their "suicide mission" blabbering. "Nobody left behind" medal was an insult enough.


I like that you make this post and whine about "BIG CHOICES" in your sig.


Click on it and read the OP there. You'll probably learn, I'm whining that it would be lame if the "choices" concerning who lived and died in the "suicide mission" were "up-played" to be "big".

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 10 avril 2010 - 01:55 .


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jtav wrote...

I think it's more likely that we will see Samara, Grunt, Mordin, and Legion than the others. We aren't going to have a ship full of LIs and it would be unfair to be able to recruit Miranda and not Tali, or vice versa.


Would love to know how my Shep that finished with the below squad (now with added Kasumi) is going to see the aforementioned characters.

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Care to explain how he is going to see Samara, Grunt, Mordin and Legion?

To answer the title of this topic...

Because they are dead! :P

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GTYKDME22 wrote...

I think Garrus, Grunt, and Tali will, and maybe even Miranda . . . if they let us choose to stay with Cerberus or not


Why does having Miri in your team have to do with Cerberus? Did you even bring her with you to the human-Reaper. She tells TIm to **** off and quits right on the spot.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

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Bad screenshot, Sir Ulrich! You should have highlighted the asari squadmate.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

GTYKDME22 wrote...

I think Garrus, Grunt, and Tali will, and maybe even Miranda . . . if they let us choose to stay with Cerberus or not


Why does having Miri in your team have to do with Cerberus? Did you even bring her with you to the human-Reaper. She tells TIm to **** off and quits right on the spot.


Proves only, she is a spineless *****.

TIM must have motivation issues sometimes. Really, are there any humans worth his efforts? No way he quits smoking.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

GTYKDME22 wrote...

I think Garrus, Grunt, and Tali will, and maybe even Miranda . . . if they let us choose to stay with Cerberus or not


Why does having Miri in your team have to do with Cerberus? Did you even bring her with you to the human-Reaper. She tells TIm to **** off and quits right on the spot.


No. I always leave her with the rest of my team so she never quits in my playthroughs. :shrug:

Modifié par GTYKDME22, 10 avril 2010 - 02:22 .


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Tali probably won't cut off from Shepard considering her name change. (and possible romance)



Can't really think of a reason for Garrus to leave, he quit C-sec and Archangel is considered dead in Omega, so he probably shouldn't go back there.



Miranda and Jacob, considering they are cerberus ops, probably won't leave either.



Mordin would proabably head back to Omega to help with the clinic.



Zaeed will definitely leave considering the mission's over and he should be payed.



Thane will probably spend his last days with his son considering the assasination he did back on Illium was to be his last.



Grunt will probably go and help Wrex (if he's alive) and the Urdnot clan. But won't break ties with Shepard.



Samara will continue her Justicar duties.



Jack, I don't know. As far as I know she has no other place to go.



Legion will probably stay with Shepard to help against the Reapers.



Kasumi, I don't know anything about considering I haven't downloaded the DLC yet. (damn credit card, or chit considering it's Mass Effect. XD)