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I've said it like a meeeeelion times: Shepard will die early in the third game. Whoever your favorite squadmate is in the game is going to be your Judas. Shepard will be reborn. As a Reaper. Shepard's squadies will do something that will return Shepard's memories to him... they'll be lead by your Judas. Shepard will turn the Reaper power on the other Reapers and pwn them.



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Patuck03 wrote...

Did Jesus also run around with a sniper rifle? If he did I would so read the bible


i think this answers your question

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Religion is in many games, in DAO a guy wont say anything about Jarvia, give him 30 silver and he tells you everything. Hardnot to be in game. In ME2 the Lazerus project is an obvious reference to Jesus brining Lazerus back to life.

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Yeah, and the story of Jesus is original, lol.

A betrayal by some squadmate would be a downer ending and feel far fetched. Even as I don't like Star Wars, I recognize how anticlimatic it would've been for Han Solo to shoot Luke in the back in Return of the Jedi.

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Theron Guard 343 wrote...

*SPOILERS*

Hey everyone, I'm kinda new to the forums, but came across something that I thought was interesting in Garrus's "merc team" storyline.

Part of Christianity focuses on the belief that Jesus had 12 disciples, and, nearing the time of Jesus's crucifixion (?), one of those disciples, named Judas, betrayed Jesus and led to the break up of the group. I dunno if I'm the first person to post about this, but doesn't Sidonis sound really similar to Judas? And doesn't the 12 disciples sound like a parallel to Garrus's 12-man "merc" team?

Just thought I'd point out my thoughts, if no one else has yet. And now I wonder what other kind of parallels are in ME2...  :blink:


Complete coincidence. The only Christian reference in the game was Legion's name.

Avid atheist talking as well, so I think I would have noticed.

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EricLeb010 wrote...

Theron Guard 343 wrote...

*SPOILERS*

Hey everyone, I'm kinda new to the forums, but came across something that I thought was interesting in Garrus's "merc team" storyline.

Part of Christianity focuses on the belief that Jesus had 12 disciples, and, nearing the time of Jesus's crucifixion (?), one of those disciples, named Judas, betrayed Jesus and led to the break up of the group. I dunno if I'm the first person to post about this, but doesn't Sidonis sound really similar to Judas? And doesn't the 12 disciples sound like a parallel to Garrus's 12-man "merc" team?

Just thought I'd point out my thoughts, if no one else has yet. And now I wonder what other kind of parallels are in ME2...  :blink:


Complete coincidence. The only Christian reference in the game was Legion's name.

Avid atheist talking as well, so I think I would have noticed.

The Lazarus Project, direct reference to Jesus bringing Lazarus back to life... though I think Lazarus spent most of his time sitting in a corner.

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Ah, yes. "Jesus" Ive dismissed that claim

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When Legion mentions the bible, they totally missed a chance to make a Cylon God joke.

Oh well.

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NICKjnp wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

You know what? I prefer the Final Fantasy Tactics version.
If only because it's Jesus-figure ends up being a female angel of death. How's that for blasphemy!


You know... I have to say that whenever a Japanese game company tries to write something that has to do with Religion from any other place than Japan... they get it wrong on so many levels.

It's mostly because Japan treats Christianity like we treat voodoo. There's no large Christian population with government control, so they can just take an unbiased look at the source material and go 'holy damn that guy got killed and came back to life, look at how pissed those angels are, o shi--that god guy is a fcuking psycho look at all those guys he burned cos they smack-talked him, THIS IS AWESOME.'

And then you get Shin Megami Tensei. BRB, killing God.

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Never thought of it that way before. I presume it's unintentional, especially when you consider that we need to be as neutral as possible in games when it comes to religion. It's in the producer's best intrests to not offend or favour any group in particular.

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Theron Guard 343 wrote...

nearing the time of Jesus's crucifixion (?),


I believe it was 33A.D. when Jesus was crucified

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Jesus is like Horus, Horus came before Jesus. OMG, Bioware is referencing Egyptian gods!

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KingusJamus wrote...



Jesus is like Horus, Horus came before Jesus. OMG, Bioware is referencing Egyptian gods!

Horus was a bird man thing, Jesus looked normal.

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Nobody knows what Jesus looked like, for all you know he could be a bird man thing...Thats IF he was even real. Oops, did I just type that?

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KingusJamus wrote...

Nobody knows what Jesus looked like, for all you know he could be a bird man thing...Thats IF he was even real. Oops, did I just type that?

Ah I see your just trying to cause trouble, well you probobally have nothing better to do, so I guess I will leave you to your work.

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KingusJamus wrote...







Jesus is like Horus, Horus came before Jesus. OMG, Bioware is referencing Egyptian gods!




Yeah..... Imma just gonna leave this right here......



http://hnn.us/articles/6641.html



I don't care whether you disagree with something; just research it yourself first. Believing men you can hear in the common day without fault is just as silly as believing the Bible itself without fault.

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enormousmoonboots wrote...



NICKjnp wrote...



The Angry One wrote...



You know what? I prefer the Final Fantasy Tactics version.

If only because it's Jesus-figure ends up being a female angel of death. How's that for blasphemy!




You know... I have to say that whenever a Japanese game company tries to write something that has to do with Religion from any other place than Japan... they get it wrong on so many levels.


It's mostly because Japan treats Christianity like we treat voodoo. There's no large Christian population with government control, so they can just take an unbiased look at the source material and go 'holy damn that guy got killed and came back to life, look at how pissed those angels are, o shi--that god guy is a fcuking psycho look at all those guys he burned cos they smack-talked him, THIS IS AWESOME.'



And then you get Shin Megami Tensei. BRB, killing God.


Yep. SMT is so full of stuff that would horrify religious people.



I wish Fox News or some other news outlet would notice the SMT games so they could do free advertising for Atlus and their excellent games. "Game where high school teens shoot themselves in the head to summon demons, including Lucifer and Satan (at THE SAME TIME, potentially) and penis chariots." So much... potential. And that's just Persona 3.

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:innocent:

Modifié par RenownedRyan, 09 avril 2010 - 11:46 .


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I suggest that Lord Woo swoop in and save the day.

Modifié par RenownedRyan, 09 avril 2010 - 11:46 .


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Lemonwizard wrote...


A Shepherd  goes around gathering together all the sheep and protecting them from all kinds of threats. The meaning behind Shepard's name is obvious.

Although the analogy that a Shepherd represents a guardian or caretaker was used frequently in the New Testament of the Christian Bible, it probably did not originate there.



Shepard is named after Alan Shepard...the first U.S. atstronaut in space.

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RenownedRyan wrote...

KingusJamus wrote...

Nobody knows what Jesus looked like, for all you know he could be a bird man thing...Thats IF he was even real. Oops, did I just type that?


shop.history.com/detail.php

Humor.  You fail it.

Thinking.  You should try it.

History.  It exists.

Stupidity.  You are a master of it.

Trolling.  You should stop it.

Trolling would imply that he didn't hold the views he posted and knew they were misinformation just to get a rise out of people, so you could cut out every "___. ___ it." you posted except the trolling one.

Also did you seriously just link a History Channel DVD lol

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RenownedRyan wrote...

shop.history.com/detail.php

Humor.  You fail it.

Thinking.  You should try it.

History.  It exists.

Stupidity.  You are a master of it.

Trolling.  You should stop it.


Shroud of Turin is still under debate.  But seriously, a master of stupidity?  lol

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Edit. Pulling out.  Not worth the effort

Modifié par RenownedRyan, 09 avril 2010 - 11:47 .