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[Dsurian]

*Please keep Awakening spoilers to a minimum as I've not yet played through it*

I bought Awakening a few days after it came out and then realized how unhappy i was with my first playthrough of DA:O...so i went ahead and started another playthrough using basically the same guy, hitting all the points in-game just how i wanted; human noble, male, warrior, dw - equipped with starfang, keening blade, and blood dragon plate at the end.  After the credits role, i immediatley upload him into the Awakening module...and hes naked.  Not entirely, save the underpants and jewlery, but all the armors gone, starfang is gone, and my secondary weapon(the Wardens Crossbow) is gone...so here I am, fighting that first little battle with nothing but the Keening Blade, and the Helm of Honneleth (which i just happened to have in my inventory at the end of the last game).

So, I get that all the items that disappeared were DLC...and that all the origonal game items that were in my inventory upon finishing the origonal DA:O will remain.  The problem is, is that there is a LOT of armor and weapons in my stash at the Wardens Keep in the first game...i tried loading my saves in the origonal and the earliest save is at the begining of the battle in Denerim...where im fairly sure im unable to then travel back to Wardens Keep to load my PC up with origonal-game items.  Now, upon this realization, i immediatley stopped playing Awakening to ask the following Q's on the forum:

- is the stash at Wardens Keep available to me in Awakening with the items that i placed in it?

Explanation: I have plenty of swords and armor in that stash that i was saving souley for Awakening...and I always assumed they would allow me to access it in Awakening...but now I'm not so sure.  Granted, they arn't as good as what i had on which is why i wasn't using them, but had i known that my equiped items were going to disappear...

- Is there anyway to re-apply certain skills or talents in Awakening?

Explanation: I honestly wasn't aware that there were going to be new skills or traits in Awakening...kept myself fairly ignorant to prevent spoilers...but since i hit every single thing in game, my PC hit level 24, and i had to start syphoning off skills and tallents.  I never wanted to waste any points on Poison making or Archery, but i literally had no idea what to do besides that...

- Is there anyway, once your in Denerim for the final battle, to get out and back to Wardens Keep?

Explanation: I really dont wanna screw with the toolset...that is even if it will work.  I just really dont think i can play another 50 hours just to fix this little problem...

RANT: Why the hell didnt i know about this?  I stay ignorant to prevent spoilers but this is a technical necesity of knowledge that i still look for - I would think there would have been some announcement to let me know: "Hey, all this stuff is going to disapear!"  Even in an old thread of mine, somehow no one knew or thought it necessary to inform me...I don't mean to sound so hostile, but its almost like the last 50 hours spent gaming was pointless to me, right now...

Modifié par Dsurian, 09 avril 2010 - 11:51 .

[EnchantedEyes1]

Well, I can understand your frustration but I believe much of the information was available in the FAQs.



Once you embark on the final battles, you cannot access any other areas of the game. So if you have no other save points earlier in the game I'm afraid Sandal will have to suffice - unless you can swap gear with your companions before the final battle with the archdemon.



Good news: You can modify your skills and talents in Awakenings. You can buy a Manual of Focus from a vendor at Vigil's keep.

[KragCulloden]

After you finish Origins, load the save that says something like "Epilogue" - you can then still travel to the party camp, and to the Wardens Keep DLC location where you can still access your storage. You can get all the good gear off your buddies in camp (post final battle), then head to Wardens Keep and organize your storage/inventory items. That is where I make my "final" save for my characters. You can then equip your character with everything you want to take into Awakenings, and leave the rest in storage.



If you are unaware, you can pick which save you import from for Awakenings, just click the "Advanced" option on the import screen - you can then pick the specific save game for the selected character you want to use.



Apologies if you already knew all this.

[Dsurian]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...
Well, I can understand your frustration but I believe much of the information was available in the FAQs.

I know it sounds stupid but i generally try not to read FAQ's.  There is quite a bit of useful information, granted...but they also tend to include a whole lot of spoiler-like information...like watching the preveiws for next weeks episode of your favorite TV show...i never watch them for that reason. (- i know, im weird.)

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...
Good news: You can modify your skills
and talents in Awakenings. You can buy a Manual of Focus from a vendor
at Vigil's keep.

Weird, but okay...thanks for the info.

KragCulloden wrote...
After you finish Origins, load the save
that says something like "Epilogue" - you can then still travel to the
party camp, and to the Wardens Keep DLC location where you can still
access your storage.

Knew about the ability to select a specific save, and i know of the existance of the "Epilogue" save, but i never knew what its purpose was, due to the ability to save in the chamber...thanks a lot, since this is exactly the kind of way-out i needed...but this brings to mind one more Q:

- The save is dated before the throne-room talking session...meaning that all that talking with different people, all the post-completion backstory-presentation...thats all pointless?

Explanation: It makes sense that you don't need to do that, and any useful continual information (love interest, party member alignment, etc.) would theoretically be applied to that save, but it still seems a bit rediculous...and makes me wonder if any of it matters at all...but i guess i'll find out, in the end.

Edit: - Does monetary inheritance matter (like in ME1 -> ME2)?   Is there a difference between importing someone with 150 gold instead of 15 gold?

Edit: - Well, now that im really caring about other sets of armor, I just realized that I'm missing Duty, the helm that goes with Efforts sets.  I know you can find it in the Deep Roads, and the epilogue won't allow me to go there, but Shale's mission takes place there, so...wth? Any chance i can somehow aquire it now, or am I screwed 'fo sho' on that note...? EditEdit:  Found this on the wiki: "Item also has a 50% chance of being dropped by Avvar Lord boss, in Vigil
Keep's "Avvar Deep Crypt" in Awakening"  <-- is this truth for the PC version? (i'm aware things are sometimes different for consoles)

Modifié par Dsurian, 10 avril 2010 - 01:05 .

[Delrayn]

I also landed in Vigil's Keep with a helmet and my small clothes. I simply stopped, deleted that import and went back to the epilogue save in DA:O. I reorganized everything in personal storage and kept everything in my backpack that I wanted in Awakenings. Personally, I preferred to full the backpack with anything that might be useful then sold everything else. Then I simply imported to Awakenings again. Success!

[JosieJ]

Dsurian wrote...

Knew about the ability to select a specific save, and i know of the existance of the "Epilogue" save, but i never knew what its purpose was, due to the ability to save in the chamber...thanks a lot, since this is exactly the kind of way-out i needed...but this brings to mind one more Q:

- The save is dated before the throne-room talking session...meaning that all that talking with different people, all the post-completion backstory-presentation...thats all pointless?

Explanation: It makes sense that you don't need to do that, and any useful continual information (love interest, party member alignment, etc.) would theoretically be applied to that save, but it still seems a bit rediculous...and makes me wonder if any of it matters at all...but i guess i'll find out, in the end.

If you're a stickler for your epilogue cards matching all your choices exactly, be prepared for disappointment in Awakenings.  Some don't align exactly.  If you can overlook that, it's all good.

Edit: - Does monetary inheritance matter (like in ME1 -> ME2)?   Is there a difference between importing someone with 150 gold instead of 15 gold?

Yes, money matters.  Bring as much with you as you can manage.  You can sell all the stuff you don't intend to bring with you before making the save you intend to import.  In terms of bringing stuff, I'd bring as little as you can manage.  You'll find a lot of good equipment in the expansion.

Edit: - Well, now that im really caring about other sets of armor, I just realized that I'm missing Duty, the helm that goes with Efforts sets.  I know you can find it in the Deep Roads, and the epilogue won't allow me to go there, but Shale's mission takes place there, so...wth? Any chance i can somehow aquire it now, or am I screwed 'fo sho' on that note...? EditEdit:  Found this on the wiki: "Item also has a 50% chance of being dropped by Avvar Lord boss, in Vigil
Keep's "Avvar Deep Crypt" in Awakening"  <-- is this truth for the PC version? (i'm aware things are sometimes different for consoles)

You could try taking Dog to Cadash Thaig, which you can travel to post-epilogue.  Again, though, my advice is to streamline what you bring with you as much as possible.  I generally only take what I intend to wear through the first part of the game, and a couple of unique items which outclass anything you can find in the expansion, at least in the beginning (e.g., The Rose's Thorn, Far Song, etc.)  

Modifié par JosieJ, 10 avril 2010 - 01:56 .

[Dsurian]

JosieJ wrote...

Edit: - Well, now that im really caring about other sets of armor, I just realized that I'm missing Duty, the helm that goes with Efforts sets.  I know you can find it in the Deep Roads, and the epilogue won't allow me to go there, but Shale's mission takes place there, so...wth? Any chance i can somehow aquire it now, or am I screwed 'fo sho' on that note...? EditEdit:  Found this on the wiki: "Item also has a 50% chance of being dropped by Avvar Lord boss, in Vigil Keep's "Avvar Deep Crypt" in Awakening"  <-- is this truth for the PC version? (i'm aware things are sometimes different for consoles)

You could try taking Dog to Cadash Thaig, which you can travel to post-epilogue.

...uhhh...you sure?  I tried and simply couldnt...unless there is some way to specifically select the deep-roads map from somewhere else other than Orzammar, its impossible...since i can't go to Orzammar.

[JosieJ]

Cadash Thaig should be marked as a separate location on your map, south of Orzammar. You can go directly there.

Modifié par JosieJ, 10 avril 2010 - 02:57 .

[Dsurian]

Negative...only able to go to Soldiers Peak, Honnleath (where i found Shale), and the Party Camp. It could have something to do with the fact that I've already been there and completed the mission...but like Honnleath, it would seem it should still be open. And anyways, from the world map**, there is no Cadash Thaig...just the Aeducan, Ortan, and the rest...but definitely no Cadash.

** I assume you are talking about the world map...if you arn't, what map are you looking at...and if its the Deep Roads map, is there a way to open that up when not in Orzammar?

- Is it possible, given my post above, to find Duty in the expansion?

[JosieJ]

Dsurian wrote...

Negative...only able to go to Soldiers Peak, Honnleath (where i found Shale), and the Party Camp. It could have something to do with the fact that I've already been there and completed the mission...but like Honnleath, it would seem it should still be open. And anyways, from the world map**, there is no Cadash Thaig...just the Aeducan, Ortan, and the rest...but definitely no Cadash.
** I assume you are talking about the world map...if you arn't, what map are you looking at...and if its the Deep Roads map, is there a way to open that up when not in Orzammar?
- Is it possible, given my post above, to find Duty in the expansion?

That's odd.  I finished the mission before completing DA:O, and it's there for me with no issues.  (I was talking about the world map.) I even took a party back there as a test before I posted you could, just to see if it was possible, although I wasn't able to test whether Dog would come up with Duty there as I'd found it before.  

According to the wiki, there's a 50% chance it'll drop during a quest in Awakening, although you'll have to progress a little bit into the story to get to that point.

Honestly, I wouldn't stress over it.  Chances are you'll find a good helm (and probably better armor, too) way before then; there are quite a few available as drops--or for purchase--in Awakening.  

Modifié par JosieJ, 10 avril 2010 - 11:35 .

[Aezeal]

Maybe he didn't do Cadash?

[maikel1977]

Dsurian wrote...

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...
Well, I can understand your frustration but I believe much of the information was available in the FAQs.

I know it sounds stupid but i generally try not to read FAQ's.  There is quite a bit of useful information, granted...but they also tend to include a whole lot of spoiler-like information...like watching the preveiws for next weeks episode of your favorite TV show...i never watch them for that reason. (- i know, im weird.)

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...
Good news: You can modify your skills
and talents in Awakenings. You can buy a Manual of Focus from a vendor
at Vigil's keep.

Weird, but okay...thanks for the info.

KragCulloden wrote...
After you finish Origins, load the save
that says something like "Epilogue" - you can then still travel to the
party camp, and to the Wardens Keep DLC location where you can still
access your storage.

Knew about the ability to select a specific save, and i know of the existance of the "Epilogue" save, but i never knew what its purpose was, due to the ability to save in the chamber...thanks a lot, since this is exactly the kind of way-out i needed...but this brings to mind one more Q:

- The save is dated before the throne-room talking session...meaning that all that talking with different people, all the post-completion backstory-presentation...thats all pointless?

Explanation: It makes sense that you don't need to do that, and any useful continual information (love interest, party member alignment, etc.) would theoretically be applied to that save, but it still seems a bit rediculous...and makes me wonder if any of it matters at all...but i guess i'll find out, in the end.

Edit: - Does monetary inheritance matter (like in ME1 -> ME2)?   Is there a difference between importing someone with 150 gold instead of 15 gold?

Edit: - Well, now that im really caring about other sets of armor, I just realized that I'm missing Duty, the helm that goes with Efforts sets.  I know you can find it in the Deep Roads, and the epilogue won't allow me to go there, but Shale's mission takes place there, so...wth? Any chance i can somehow aquire it now, or am I screwed 'fo sho' on that note...? EditEdit:  Found this on the wiki: "Item also has a 50% chance of being dropped by Avvar Lord boss, in Vigil
Keep's "Avvar Deep Crypt" in Awakening"  <-- is this truth for the PC version? (i'm aware things are sometimes different for consoles)

Honestly, all i see you doing is asking for information that you can find yourself. You say you didnt want to read any possible spoilers, but what would you call the advice and answers you get around here ? Its thesame information you would find if you went looking for the answers yourself.

Please, next time you take the time to write a topic or response here, dont do it and invest that time into finding answers yourself.  Its not a matter of being unfriendly or anything like that, but the info you are after is info widely available on the net. Google whatever you want and presto, there it is. Takes less time then writing a new topic here too

Now about Cadash Thaig, that info might be a little harder to find so ill post what i know here. If you miss an item from there but completed the quest there is no way you can go back since orzammar is closed for you after the da:o campaign. The chance of the helm Duty showing up in awakenings ? Very slim, ive played through it 3 times and never seen it. 

Tip: You can get a very good set called Stormchaser in the first 30 minutes of awakenings provided you got the gold to buy 2 pieces of it and find the other 2.  (Yuriah inside keep sells chest, Herren sells gloves, helm is found in a chest when first entering the keep courtyard and the boots drop on the Turnoble farm)

Modifié par maikel1977, 11 avril 2010 - 02:53 .

[JosieJ]

Aezeal wrote...

Maybe he didn't do Cadash?

No, he said he'd been there and finished the mission.

Dsurian, If Cadash Thaig isn't showing up on your map, the only thing I can suggest is: if you have a save from just before you go to Redcliffe for the endgame, reload it and go to the Deep Roads with Dog to retrieve Duty, then replay the endgame.

Or, just forget about Duty and Effort, go on into Awakening with another set of armor, then immediately play either the Knotwood Hills or Blackmarsh main missions (I suggest Knotwood Hills, for logistical reasons I won't spoil). In either one of those, you'll get a set of armor that will totally outclass Duty/Effort.

Modifié par JosieJ, 11 avril 2010 - 03:00 .

[Dsurian]

maikel1977 wrote...
Please, next time you take the time to write a topic or response here, dont do it and invest that time into
finding answers yourself.  Its not a matter of being unfriendly or anything like that, but the info you are after is info widely available on the net. Google whatever you want and presto, there it is. Takes less time then writing a new topic here too

Probably true, but google isn't really that great...for instance, I've heard rumors about a stat-resetting ability in Awakening, but i wasn't sure.  And google  wouldnt have helped much unless i already knew the name of the item "Manual of Focus" - and I would have likely stumbled across several things that i would have rather not known in my search...while if, on these forums, i take the time to ask a specific question and the people are nice enough to answer very specifically (which they have been, so thanks everyone), i find out exactly what i need to know without any excess.  Other questions such as monetary inheritance i could have easily found out on my own and regret posting the Q, for once i realized, i hurried back to the forum to edit it out, but someone already answered it anyways...I just figured theres a 2-ish year gap in the games plot (if you use Oghrens bio for reference), so i would have never thought that you would have the exact same amount of gold that you had in DA:O... its weird!

And besides - me, the other members of this lovely forum, and you yourself seem to have no qualms about trying to be helpful while writing extensivley...and everyones happy in the end so, whats the problem?

@JosieJ Thanks for the help, but the reasoning behind making this thread in the first place is that i screwed myself over due to my earliest save being after the final battle began and I was already in Denerim...so no going back to Orzammar unless I'm willing to replay 50 hours of gameplay.  It's all good, though...I'll take your word for the armors to come (and yeah, I've already come across most of Stormchaser...can't wait to get the last piece.)

Modifié par Dsurian, 11 avril 2010 - 09:55 .

[JosieJ]

OK, I can now personally confirm that Duty may be a random drop from The Wraith's Vengeance quest.  I kept reloading until it dropped (only took me 4 or 5 times, and it's not that difficult a fight).  Note that you have to complete at least one main quest to get this quest.

Screenshot here, although I don't know how clear it will be.

[Dsurian]

Yarp...though it took me 20-ish times to get it, personally...that wiki sayin 50% is ridiculous. And after wasting all that time, i go and end up putting it all in my stash since i now have Stormchaser, and Sentinel...doubt I'll ever even need it.

Kinda sucks that i miss out on the 'good-guy armor' until the epic 'bad guy armor' (Sentinel) shows up...I mean, the armor looks awesome, and DA:O definitely had a complete lack of intimidating armor, but...yeah. oh well...thanks again all for the help...

/closed

[maikel1977]

JosieJ wrote...

OK, I can now personally confirm that Duty may be a random drop from The Wraith's Vengeance quest.  I kept reloading until it dropped (only took me 4 or 5 times, and it's not that difficult a fight).  Note that you have to complete at least one main quest to get this quest.

Screenshot here, although I don't know how clear it will be.

Heh lol,you got lucky then, ive never seen Duty in awakenings at all. Not that i was after it but still.  Seems to me that the droprate for those rare items is really unpredictable...
At the moment im farming the Nimble chest from the Crow Assasin during the quest you get from the dark wolf in amaranthine. 50 kills & reloads and counting >.<