Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
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I have a theory about all the people complaining about paid for DLC
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 11:22
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I think you're all communists. I think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits, that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!
Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:39
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That's just the thing though... more and more people are getting into gaming all over the world. As the population grows, the market is just going to keep getting larger. So the cost of the game can be recouped for a lower cost per unit sold in greater volumes. The higher price point will prevent many of those customers from paying for the product, resulting in either the same profit for the Developer and a higher cost for the consumer (bad for customers) rather than the same profit for the Developer and a lower cost for the consumer (win/win).
Games may cost more to develop these days... but bear in mind that all of these major dev houses got to where they are today by operating in the days when gaming was a niche market product. Devs actually have ludicrously better tools than they had in the past, making developing and asset creation easier and faster in comparison. Games cost more because devs are trying to get by soley on AAA blockbusters, instead of also creating smaller more indie-like games that got them where there are. Smaller, cheaper games that focus on great gameplay rather than pushing budget boundries.
They miss the revenue stream that smaller easily developed games gave them, and try to substitute DLC in place. Unfortunately, DLC is 99% of the time a really bad deal for the customer, being nearly the cost of an indie game in some cases for very little actual content, on top of the cost of the original game!
To summarize: I feel major devs should take the philosophy of cheaper games to more people (the population/market increases every day!), along with lighter games at lower costs as a way to keep revenue flowing between blockbusters and to keep actual "gameplay" creation skills sharp. Because the lighter, smaller, cheaper game can't rely on uber graphics and next gen tech and famous voice actors to carry them. And one of their lighter games that succeeds beyond expectations could become their next AAA title with a sequel and funding to match. So their potential AAA IP pool is also increase with this development philosophy.
Games may cost more to develop these days... but bear in mind that all of these major dev houses got to where they are today by operating in the days when gaming was a niche market product. Devs actually have ludicrously better tools than they had in the past, making developing and asset creation easier and faster in comparison. Games cost more because devs are trying to get by soley on AAA blockbusters, instead of also creating smaller more indie-like games that got them where there are. Smaller, cheaper games that focus on great gameplay rather than pushing budget boundries.
They miss the revenue stream that smaller easily developed games gave them, and try to substitute DLC in place. Unfortunately, DLC is 99% of the time a really bad deal for the customer, being nearly the cost of an indie game in some cases for very little actual content, on top of the cost of the original game!
To summarize: I feel major devs should take the philosophy of cheaper games to more people (the population/market increases every day!), along with lighter games at lower costs as a way to keep revenue flowing between blockbusters and to keep actual "gameplay" creation skills sharp. Because the lighter, smaller, cheaper game can't rely on uber graphics and next gen tech and famous voice actors to carry them. And one of their lighter games that succeeds beyond expectations could become their next AAA title with a sequel and funding to match. So their potential AAA IP pool is also increase with this development philosophy.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:42
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Reinholder wrote...
I think you're all communists. I think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits, that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!
Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
We shall be victorious, capitalist pig-dog, as we stand together for the Motherland!
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:51
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OH YEAH! KICK FOR THE ANTICOMMUNIST!
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:52
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Your so, smart everything people do reflects how they voted politically.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:54
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Reinholder wrote...
I think you're all communists. I think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits, that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!
Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
Wow. I thought you were a childish dick in our last encounter but I see you're really just a bat**** crazy a-hole.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 04:56
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Pretty sure OP is joking, Koop. I keep hanging on to the baseless belief that people stupid enough to say some things are incapable of turning their PCs on.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:02
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Yeah, I'm not taking this thread too seriously, either.
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This post brought a smile to my face. Nicely done.
And no, I didn't buy Kasumi and her pinko-Trotsky, leftist, brainwashing, poisonous, filthy, open minded CRAP!
And no, I didn't buy Kasumi and her pinko-Trotsky, leftist, brainwashing, poisonous, filthy, open minded CRAP!
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:23
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
That's just the thing though... more and more people are getting into gaming all over the world. As the population grows, the market is just going to keep getting larger. So the cost of the game can be recouped for a lower cost per unit sold in greater volumes. The higher price point will prevent many of those customers from paying for the product, resulting in either the same profit for the Developer and a higher cost for the consumer (bad for customers) rather than the same profit for the Developer and a lower cost for the consumer (win/win).
Games may cost more to develop these days... but bear in mind that all of these major dev houses got to where they are today by operating in the days when gaming was a niche market product. Devs actually have ludicrously better tools than they had in the past, making developing and asset creation easier and faster in comparison. Games cost more because devs are trying to get by soley on AAA blockbusters, instead of also creating smaller more indie-like games that got them where there are. Smaller, cheaper games that focus on great gameplay rather than pushing budget boundries.
They miss the revenue stream that smaller easily developed games gave them, and try to substitute DLC in place. Unfortunately, DLC is 99% of the time a really bad deal for the customer, being nearly the cost of an indie game in some cases for very little actual content, on top of the cost of the original game!
To summarize: I feel major devs should take the philosophy of cheaper games to more people (the population/market increases every day!), along with lighter games at lower costs as a way to keep revenue flowing between blockbusters and to keep actual "gameplay" creation skills sharp. Because the lighter, smaller, cheaper game can't rely on uber graphics and next gen tech and famous voice actors to carry them. And one of their lighter games that succeeds beyond expectations could become their next AAA title with a sequel and funding to match. So their potential AAA IP pool is also increase with this development philosophy.
Wow. Thank you for this.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:40
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
That's just the thing though... more and more people are getting into gaming all over the world. As the population grows, the market is just going to keep getting larger. So the cost of the game can be recouped for a lower cost per unit sold in greater volumes. The higher price point will prevent many of those customers from paying for the product, resulting in either the same profit for the Developer and a higher cost for the consumer (bad for customers) rather than the same profit for the Developer and a lower cost for the consumer (win/win).
Games may cost more to develop these days... but bear in mind that all of these major dev houses got to where they are today by operating in the days when gaming was a niche market product. Devs actually have ludicrously better tools than they had in the past, making developing and asset creation easier and faster in comparison. Games cost more because devs are trying to get by soley on AAA blockbusters, instead of also creating smaller more indie-like games that got them where there are. Smaller, cheaper games that focus on great gameplay rather than pushing budget boundries.
They miss the revenue stream that smaller easily developed games gave them, and try to substitute DLC in place. Unfortunately, DLC is 99% of the time a really bad deal for the customer, being nearly the cost of an indie game in some cases for very little actual content, on top of the cost of the original game!
To summarize: I feel major devs should take the philosophy of cheaper games to more people (the population/market increases every day!), along with lighter games at lower costs as a way to keep revenue flowing between blockbusters and to keep actual "gameplay" creation skills sharp. Because the lighter, smaller, cheaper game can't rely on uber graphics and next gen tech and famous voice actors to carry them. And one of their lighter games that succeeds beyond expectations could become their next AAA title with a sequel and funding to match. So their potential AAA IP pool is also increase with this development philosophy.
We as the consumer have quite a bit of power in terms of how much developers set prices for games. supply/demand thing. If everyone thinks the price it outrageous and not purchase this DLC or this game for that matter. Guess what, the price will go down.
Though i see everyone's point of wanting a game at the best price possible; i urge everyone who thinks this way to simple exercise their right of choice and not purchase it. If enough people do that, then well the price will go down.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:41
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Wow. I thought you were a childish dick in our last encounter but I see you're really just a bat**** crazy a-hole.
Wow way to act out your own acusation.. Insulting/Name calling hardly does anyone any favors.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:42
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I like being communist
free will and voting for our leaders is the way to go
free will and voting for our leaders is the way to go
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 05:43
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You get what you pay for.
Nothing in this country (USA) is free. You want something of quality, you have to pay for it.
Nothing in this country (USA) is free. You want something of quality, you have to pay for it.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:05
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FrostGun wrote...
JKoopman wrote...
Wow. I thought you were a childish dick in our last encounter but I see you're really just a bat**** crazy a-hole.
Wow way to act out your own acusation.. Insulting/Name calling hardly does anyone any favors.
Wow way to take your buddy Reinholder's side as usual and chastise me for being insulting while ignoring the fact that he posted an entire thread calling anyone who feels the Cerberus Network is overpriced in effect "communist hippie children" who live in their parents' basements.
Anticitizen1 wrote...
You get what you pay for.
Nothing in this country (USA) is free. You want something of quality, you have to pay for it.
Some people had to pay 1200 MS points ($15) for the Cerberus Network, so speak for yourself.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:08
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Ya, no, see, thing is, OP is joking, you're being a dick. You're calling him an a**hole, but are doing a fairly good job of being one yourself.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:09
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Not true Youtube awesome, Firefox epic, linux Amazing all of which are free.Anticitizen1 wrote...
You get what you pay for.
Nothing in this country (USA) is free. You want something of quality, you have to pay for it.
Windows Updates free
love free, as they say the best things in life are free
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:09
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Dethateer wrote...
Ya, no, see, thing is, OP is joking, you're being a dick. You're calling him an a**hole, but are doing a fairly good job of being one yourself.
And I'm "joking" when I call him an a-hole, but apparently it's only okay when he does it.
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If I thought that complaining would accomplish anything with the developers, it would be the fact that most of the DLC being offered isn't that good.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:12
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JKoopman wrote...
Dethateer wrote...
Ya, no,
see, thing is, OP is joking, you're being a dick. You're calling him an
a**hole, but are doing a fairly good job of being one yourself.
And
I'm "joking" when I call him an a-hole, but apparently it's only okay
when he does it.
JKoopman wrote...
Wow. I thought you were a childish dick in our last encounter but I see you're really just a bat**** crazy a-hole.
Right. Joking.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:13
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Dethateer wrote...
JKoopman wrote...
Dethateer wrote...
Ya, no,
see, thing is, OP is joking, you're being a dick. You're calling him an
a**hole, but are doing a fairly good job of being one yourself.
And
I'm "joking" when I call him an a-hole, but apparently it's only okay
when he does it.JKoopman wrote...
Wow. I thought you were a childish dick in our last encounter but I see you're really just a bat**** crazy a-hole.
Right. Joking.
Reinholder wrote...
I think you're all communists. I
think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits,
that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and
as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine
if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees
in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!
Communists.
I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you
voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is
chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
Right. Joking.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:15
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Okay so let me get this straight, i brought the dlc and loved it, but at the same time i like free healthcare, does that makes me a communist?
Anyways wow, you need to google your political parties and find a map so you can see that europe doesn't have just one leader. Nice try though.
Personally i feel those complaining about the DLC are just trolls or pirates or just on there gaming period. They'll get over it soon.
Anyways wow, you need to google your political parties and find a map so you can see that europe doesn't have just one leader. Nice try though.
Personally i feel those complaining about the DLC are just trolls or pirates or just on there gaming period. They'll get over it soon.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:15
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If I thought that complaining would accomplish anything with the developers, it would be the fact that most of the DLC being offered isn't that good.
This. Really, this is what most DLC boils down to.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:17
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I hate godless pinko commie leftists too, but this is taking it a bit extreme. I don't think not wanting to pay for DLC makes you one of those people.
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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:17
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JKoopman wrote...
Reinholder wrote...
I think you're all communists. I
think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits,
that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and
as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine
if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees
in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!
Communists.
I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you
voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is
chancellor in germany right now.
COMMUNISTS!
Right. Joking.
Yes, joking. Aside from the bolded parts, the communists haven't been the bad guys since what, the Cold War?
