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[JKoopman]

Dethateer wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Reinholder wrote...

I think you're all communists. I
think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits,
that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and
as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine
if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees
in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!

Communists.
I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you
voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is
chancellor in germany right now.

COMMUNISTS!

Right. Joking.

Yes, joking. Aside from the bolded parts, the communists haven't been the bad guys since what, the Cold War?

Nahtzis haven't been the enemy since WWII. That doesn't make it alright to go around accusing people of being one for their views on DLC.

If it was a joke then it was in very poor taste. And I don't see any "just kiddings" in there...

Modifié par JKoopman, 10 avril 2010 - 07:11 .

[Dethateer]

You have to be told something is a joke to figure out it's a joke?

[JKoopman]

Dethateer wrote...

You have to be told something is a joke to figure out it's a joke?

If you have to explain that something is a joke, is it really a joke?

[FrostGun]

JKoopman wrote...

Wow way to take your buddy Reinholder's side as usual and chastise me for being insulting while ignoring the fact that he posted an entire thread calling anyone who feels the Cerberus Network is overpriced in effect "communist hippie children" who live in their parents' basements.

So who's side am i taking?. Not once did i SAY i approve of his post. Im merely pointing out the way you posted your comment. It does you no good and by the looks of it made you receive some flames.

[Dethateer]

JKoopman wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

You have to be told something is a joke to figure out it's a joke?

If you have to explain that something is a joke, is it really a joke?

Not my fault your Poe meter is borked.

[xMakaze]

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze wrote...

Okay so let me get this straight, i brought the dlc and loved it, but at the same time i like free healthcare, does that makes me a communist?
Anyways wow, you need to google your political parties and find a map so you can see that europe doesn't have just one leader. Nice try though.

Personally i feel those complaining about the DLC are just trolls or pirates or just on there gaming period. They'll get over it soon.

Gaming period? Creative. I like to think of it as critical thinking, or discernment.

Its the only way i can describe some of the posts i've read lately.

Yesterday and today, i've been arguing for why the dlc is good, just cause kasumi is short in length, its 750mb+ that means its 100% new content, are people too stupid to realise this?

I mean some of the DLC i've seen for games are like 800MSP but because they give you like 3 hours of gameplay everyones like yay. But they're about 150mb in size. So theres been like 4 new models added with a new bit of code wow...

I'd much rather pay for NEW content, than re-used content thats just been set out into a new way, even if its longer.

Nuff' said.

[JKoopman]

FrostGun wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Wow way to take your buddy Reinholder's side as usual and chastise me for being insulting while ignoring the fact that he posted an entire thread calling anyone who feels the Cerberus Network is overpriced in effect "communist hippie children" who live in their parents' basements.

So who's side am i taking?. Not once did i SAY i approve of his post. Im merely pointing out the way you posted your comment. It does you no good and by the looks of it made you receive some flames.

By singling out one person for their actions while hypocritically ignoring the same actions from another, yes, you've quite clearly taken a side. Complaisance is compliance.

[TheCrakFox]

slimgrin wrote...

You guys are behaving like a bunch of rabid Hyena's. Stop already.

I'm no Zoologist. But I'm pretty sure rabid hyenas lack the knowlegde, intelligence or desire to argue on the internet.

[JKoopman]

xMakaze wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze wrote...

Okay so let me get this straight, i brought the dlc and loved it, but at the same time i like free healthcare, does that makes me a communist?
Anyways wow, you need to google your political parties and find a map so you can see that europe doesn't have just one leader. Nice try though.

Personally i feel those complaining about the DLC are just trolls or pirates or just on there gaming period. They'll get over it soon.

Gaming period? Creative. I like to think of it as critical thinking, or discernment.

Its the only way i can describe some of the posts i've read lately.

Yesterday and today, i've been arguing for why the dlc is good, just cause kasumi is short in length, its 750mb+ that means its 100% new content, are people too stupid to realise this?

I mean some of the DLC i've seen for games are like 800MSP but because they give you like 3 hours of gameplay everyones like yay. But they're about 150mb in size. So theres been like 4 new models added with a new bit of code wow...

I'd much rather pay for NEW content, than re-used content thats just been set out into a new way, even if its longer.

Nuff' said.

You could build the biggest, most advanced, expensive car in the world with the most powerful engine and cram it full of all the latest gadgets and gizmos but if it only gets .2 miles/gallon and burns through a full tank of gas before it even reaches the end of your driveway, it doesn't do you much good. Just sayin'...

If I feel that a DLC is too short and lacks enough content to be worth the price then the fact that it takes extra long to download isn't exactly going to raise my opinion of it.

Modifié par JKoopman, 10 avril 2010 - 06:37 .

[FrostGun]

JKoopman wrote...

By singling out one person for their actions while hypocritically ignoring the same actions from another, yes, you've quite clearly taken a side. Complaisance is compliance.

Why do you assume everyone is your enemy?.. Your comment was the first comment of its kind in this thread..

If you posted a valid counter argument to the OP then maybe people would be a bit more sympathetic.

[xMakaze]

JKoopman wrote...

xMakaze wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze wrote...

Okay so let me get this straight, i brought the dlc and loved it, but at the same time i like free healthcare, does that makes me a communist?
Anyways wow, you need to google your political parties and find a map so you can see that europe doesn't have just one leader. Nice try though.

Personally i feel those complaining about the DLC are just trolls or pirates or just on there gaming period. They'll get over it soon.

Gaming period? Creative. I like to think of it as critical thinking, or discernment.

Its the only way i can describe some of the posts i've read lately.

Yesterday and today, i've been arguing for why the dlc is good, just cause kasumi is short in length, its 750mb+ that means its 100% new content, are people too stupid to realise this?

I mean some of the DLC i've seen for games are like 800MSP but because they give you like 3 hours of gameplay everyones like yay. But they're about 150mb in size. So theres been like 4 new models added with a new bit of code wow...

I'd much rather pay for NEW content, than re-used content thats just been set out into a new way, even if its longer.

Nuff' said.

You could build the biggest, most advanced, expensive car in the
world with the most powerful engine and cram it full of all the latest
gadgets and gizmos but if it only gets .2 miles/gallon and burns through
a full tank of gas before it even reaches the end of your driveway, it
doesn't do you much good. Just sayin'...

If I feel that a DLC is
too short and lacks enough content to be worth the price then the fact
that it takes extra long to download isn't exactly going to raise my
opinion of it.

And yet the Hummer H2 and Bugatti Veyron are still sold... Once again proving everyone has there own prefrences.

It doesn't matter what any of us say we're all gonna want and feel different things. Thats why most of these hate forums i see are so pointless. Just because you feel one way, doesn't mean the whole world feels the same. Infact i could name quite a few people that have played through Kasumi' mission 10+ Times and still enjoying it, still finding new things like hidden eastereggs and jokes.

But by the sounds of it, all you want is gamerscore. You expect the mission to be extra long and simple, so you can play ages and get your gamerscore and never return to it again. That isn't the point of things, if you want that so much, go download Game room and buy some games and get your 1000g.

Modifié par xMakaze, 10 avril 2010 - 06:40 .

[FrostGun]

@makaze



Yep im one of those people. Kasumi rocks. lol

[mosor]

Reinholder wrote...

I think you're all communists. I think you like free healthcare, and your free unemloyment benefits, that usually follow from living in your parents house (for free), and as a result you expect everything for free. OH SURE! It would be fine if you could trade your bread, and other goods with bioware employees in exchange for DLC, but because you have to pay money, it's now absurd!

Communists. I bet you voted Obama as well. Apart from people in the EU. I bet you voted for sarkozy, or brown (wait, no one did), or whoever the hell is chancellor in germany right now.

COMMUNISTS!

LOL, very funny. The said, its probably capitalists who complain the most about paying. They want to shell out the least amount of money to others and keep more money and product for themselves. Communists don't mind shelling out more of thier own resources if it helps society at large. In this case making Bioware more profitable so they can make better games.

[JKoopman]

FrostGun wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

By singling out one person for their actions while hypocritically ignoring the same actions from another, yes, you've quite clearly taken a side. Complaisance is compliance.

Why do you assume everyone is your enemy?.. Your comment was the first comment of its kind in this thread..

If you posted a valid counter argument to the OP then maybe people would be a bit more sympathetic.

I'm not here to convince you that you're in the wrong. If others in this thread want to criticise me for being uneccessarily insulting towards someone who was "obviously joking" or state that I'm being irrational then so be it. I'm just not surprised that you're yet again jumping to Reinholder's defense, nor does your argument exacty sway me.

And I tried counter-arguments last time. All I got in return was name-calling and a bunch of immature touchy-feely joking between you and Rein, so pardon me if I didn't feel like wasting another day.

[TheCrakFox]

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze. No disrespect, but the "everyone has their own preferences" line is a weak argument at best.

I have listened to some strong-willed people on these forums. Some have changed my mind because they had a good point, or maybe even offered a better argument than mine.

I have yet to hear a good argument for micro DLC, and why it isn't just an example of the devs milking their IP.

Still waiting....

It pretty much is just for the high profit/cost ratio.

But consumers like it because of the frequent releases.

[Reinholder]

JKoopman wrote...

I'm not here to convince you that you're in the wrong. If others in this thread want to criticise me for being uneccessarily insulting towards someone who was "obviously joking" or state that I'm being irrational then so be it. I'm just not surprised that you're yet again jumping to Reinholder's defense, nor does your argument exacty sway me.

And I tried counter-arguments last time. All I got in return was name-calling and a bunch of immature touchy-feely joking between you and Rein, so pardon me if I didn't feel like wasting another day.

I object! I've never once mocked you. Merely pointed out your abominable English and sent you on your way. Now really, do you have an internet connection for the sole purpose of complaining?

mosor wrote...

LOL, very funny. The said, its probably
capitalists who complain the most about paying. They want to shell out
the least amount of money to others and keep more money and product for
themselves. Communists don't mind shelling out more of thier own
resources if it helps society at large. In this case making Bioware more
profitable so they can make better games.

Ordinarily
I might agree, but when you consider thatthe communist model as
idealised by Marx and Engels is, in its extreme, anti-capitalism, you
would have to assume that anyone subscribing to a communist model would
merely want the goods in exchange for something that they have that
would be of interest - that could be putting a meal on the table of the
bioware programmers, providing clothes or etc.

Communism is, in
theory about looking after the interests of the community first.

Modifié par Reinholder, 10 avril 2010 - 06:54 .

[xMakaze]

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze. No disrespect, but the
"everyone has their own preferences" line is a weak argument at best.

I
have listened to some strong-willed people on these forums. Some have
changed my mind because they had a good point, or maybe even offered a
better argument than mine.

I have yet to hear a good argument for
micro DLC, and why it isn't just an example of the devs milking their
IP.

Still waiting....

Good argument? How about
because EA now controls there paycheck if they dont make the money EA want they wont be making anymore games.

Ooo
what else... Ah i know, how about the fact
that the sheer art and level design was better than any other level on Mass effect and Mass effect 2 combined....

And
finally the fact people spend 800+ MSpoints
on map packs for halo and MW2 but for something listed at 560 loads of people complain.

Ohwell, If people supported Bioware they wouldnt say stuff like "I like bioware but this dlc is _____"  They would see the big picture, Now we have kasumi they can release more DLC that she can be brought into. Maybe even one that looks deeper into her past.

Modifié par xMakaze, 10 avril 2010 - 06:55 .

[FrostGun]

slimgrin wrote...

xMakaze. No disrespect, but the "everyone has their own preferences" line is a weak argument at best.

I have listened to some strong-willed people on these forums. Some have changed my mind because they had a good point, or maybe even offered a better argument than mine.

I have yet to hear a good argument for micro DLC, and why it isn't just an example of the devs milking their IP.

Still waiting....

Micro may not be the most beneficial for us the consumers. But it works. We the consumers get content as they are released (As we are living in the instant gratification age) in exchange for our $. It is totally our choice on if we spend that or not.

True, sometimes Devs charge outlandish prices (not for ME2 but thats my own opinion ). But at the same time they arent forcing us to buy it.

Anyways, im all open for suggestion. So perhaps you can start a thread about a better system than micro DLC. Then we can submit a nice thought out response to BW and hope they implement for Me3.