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[cmessaz]

Lady Jess wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

KoP, what do you do? I have never done anything but the tower.

Sacrifice Isolde, as she is a willing participant. That's Arcturus' choice.
Dain Aeducan was not going to risk his mage by sending heron a fool quest in the Fade, nor did he trust Jowan, so he killed Connor.

I base Arcturus on myself, so I would go with his decision. But he knows it's a risk.

I pretty much sacrifice Isolde every time. The only exceptions being Aidan, since she destroyed the mages, or if I'm playing a mage.

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

Cmessaz, if you go to redcliff before you go to the tower, then it really makes 0 sense for you to pick the 3rd option, as there are rumors all over the place that the Circle is in unrest.

So you are pretty mucbh backed into a cornor between killing Isolde or killing Connor. Pretend that the 3rd option does not exist and choose.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

KoP, what do you do? I have never done anything but the tower.

Sacrifice Isolde, as she is a willing participant. That's Arcturus' choice.
Dain Aeducan was not going to risk his mage by sending heron a fool quest in the Fade, nor did he trust Jowan, so he killed Connor.

I base Arcturus on myself, so I would go with his decision. But he knows it's a risk.

I pretty much sacrifice Isolde every time. The only exceptions being Aidan, since she destroyed the mages, or if I'm playing a mage.

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

Celeste, the mage I just deleted, is the only mage I had that sacrificed Isolde. She didn't abhor blood magic, after what Duncan told her (basically that the gray wardens do whatever it takes). The templar in Lothering had told her the tower was at risk of annulment, so she figured THEY wouldn't be any help at all. And Jowan was right there offering to do the ritual with a willing Isolde. Her thinking was...Jowan wouldn't risk hurting HER, and she knows the fade. Taking time to walk to the tower and risk getting no help anyhow, was more time Redcliffe was at risk of being attacked again.

[tmp7704]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I found this one cute check out Duncan

Rolling his eyes at Cailan's idiocy no doubt.

He's just eyeing his newest recruit and praying she doesn't commit any more etiquette blunders. Telling king his subjects get raped by government representatives: awkward.

[SurelyForth]

sylvanaerie wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...


Oh god, that line.  *clutches heart*

I know! The knife, it twists.

What is that line from?

When you spare Loghain and tell him that he doesn't have to leave.(I think) Anyway, it's one of those horribly heartrending, perfectly delivered lines that makes me feel like a legitimately bad person every time hear them. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 22 mai 2010 - 06:11 .

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

Cmessaz, if you go to redcliff before you go to the tower, then it really makes 0 sense for you to pick the 3rd option, as there are rumors all over the place that the Circle is in unrest.

So you are pretty mucbh backed into a cornor between killing Isolde or killing Connor. Pretend that the 3rd option does not exist and choose.

I guess that is my problem, I  KNOW about the 3rd option, I need to forget about that. They really should make it so that 3rd option has consequences if you ask me.

[phaonica]

cmessaz wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

Cmessaz, if you go to redcliff before you go to the tower, then it really makes 0 sense for you to pick the 3rd option, as there are rumors all over the place that the Circle is in unrest.

So you are pretty mucbh backed into a cornor between killing Isolde or killing Connor. Pretend that the 3rd option does not exist and choose.

I guess that is my problem, I  KNOW about the 3rd option, I need to forget about that. They really should make it so that 3rd option has consequences if you ask me.

I don't like the tower option mostly because even though the game *implies* that there is a risk because the trip is going to take more time, the game conveniently never implies that many more innocent people are going to die because I wouldn't make the choice. Some of the dead lying on the beach could be yours.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So what do you use as justification with your mage, so I can try it?

Cmessaz, if you go to redcliff before you go to the tower, then it really makes 0 sense for you to pick the 3rd option, as there are rumors all over the place that the Circle is in unrest.

So you are pretty mucbh backed into a cornor between killing Isolde or killing Connor. Pretend that the 3rd option does not exist and choose.

I guess that is my problem, I  KNOW about the 3rd option, I need to forget about that. They really should make it so that 3rd option has consequences if you ask me.

It does...it takes TIME to travel there, time that the demon has to wreak more havoc. It takes even MORE time to clean out the tower to even GET the assistance you need. So, the consequence is...you COULD be leaving the village to get destroyed.

[cmessaz]

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

[Serissia]

tmp7704 wrote...
He's just eyeing his newest recruit and praying she doesn't commit any more etiquette blunders. Telling king his subjects get raped by government representatives: awkward.

That's ok Duncan makes it up Cailan later.  Hounds!

[sylvanaerie]

tmp7704 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I found this one cute check out Duncan

Rolling his eyes at Cailan's idiocy no doubt.

He's just eyeing his newest recruit and praying she doesn't commit any more etiquette blunders. Telling king his subjects get raped by government representatives: awkward.

My favorite line when greeting Cailan   He's so cute too !

First its then  then  then its back to Off to Loghain to be bored by his strategies...

You just know Ostagar can only end in tears when the words "bored" and "strategy" are in the same sentence

[cmessaz]

Sadly I must remember Spock. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one."

Syl, lol yeah those 2 words should definately NOT be in a sentence together.

Modifié par cmessaz, 22 mai 2010 - 06:17 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

If I was making the game, I would have made the entire village burn to the ground.

[Lady Jess]

Serissia wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
He's just eyeing his newest recruit and praying she doesn't commit any more etiquette blunders. Telling king his subjects get raped by government representatives: awkward.

That's ok Duncan makes it up Cailan later.  Hounds!

rofl, my city elf ttally blurted out exactly why she was there, Duncan should have totally /facepalmed then

[sylvanaerie]

Lady Jess wrote...

Serissia wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
He's just eyeing his newest recruit and praying she doesn't commit any more etiquette blunders. Telling king his subjects get raped by government representatives: awkward.

That's ok Duncan makes it up Cailan later.  Hounds!

rofl, my city elf ttally blurted out exactly why she was there, Duncan should have totally /facepalmed then

LOL considering how he was at the start of the Calling (and thats all I have read so far) I think Duncan is willing to cut the new guy a little slack...

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

If I was making the game, I would have made the entire village burn to the ground.

I think I would do the same actually, because it IS a stupid choice.

[Herr Uhl]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

If I was making the game, I would have made the entire village burn to the ground.

If I was making the game, you would have a sensible reason for torching the town, like taking the castle when the ghouls are out, or making Eamon optional.

And then having it burned to the ground.

And that is why I like Redcliffe the least of the five main places.

[cmessaz]

I like the idea of Eamon being optional....

[sylvanaerie]

cmessaz wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

If I was making the game, I would have made the entire village burn to the ground.

I think I would do the same actually, because it IS a stupid choice.

agreed. BTW I usually sacrifice Isolde now, killing Connor  was like pulling teeth without Novacaine.  I had to get her to do it (Figured it wasn't the kid's fault as he was caught up in an adult situation not his making and would be kinder to him to let his mom do it) and I still didn't get the damn epilogue slide.  

I even got a whacked out conversation with Eamon at the end asking me if I noticed anything strange aboiut Connor.  There was no option for me to  Yea...umm You mean...aside from the HUGE hole in his chest from the murder knife?
Zombie Connor!

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

I like the idea of Eamon being optional....

I'd like to see one of the treaties be optional. When you go to the Dalish or Orzammar for example, be able to say for ONE of them...fine, I'll seek help elsewhere. And just go to war with what you've got...Redcliffee, the circle and whichever of the other two you did.

[cmessaz]

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I like the idea of Eamon being optional....

I'd like to see one of the treaties be optional. When you go to the Dalish or Orzammar for example, be able to say for ONE of them...fine, I'll seek help elsewhere. And just go to war with what you've got...Redcliffee, the circle and whichever of the other two you did.

God anything to get out of the snoozefest that is the Dalish treaty.

[sylvanaerie]

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I like the idea of Eamon being optional....

I'd like to see one of the treaties be optional. When you go to the Dalish or Orzammar for example, be able to say for ONE of them...fine, I'll seek help elsewhere. And just go to war with what you've got...Redcliffee, the circle and whichever of the other two you did.

I this...I'd love to have a "Skip Orzammar" mod.  Just go in, crown the Steward and tell Bhelen/Harrowmont to STFU.

[cmessaz]

sylvanaerie wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

See, thats what I'm thinking. They should have added an extra SOMETHING that implies that more died because of your little trip. That would have made the choice more interesting.

If I was making the game, I would have made the entire village burn to the ground.

I think I would do the same actually, because it IS a stupid choice.

agreed. BTW I usually sacrifice Isolde now, killing Connor  was like pulling teeth without Novacaine.  I had to get her to do it (Figured it wasn't the kid's fault as he was caught up in an adult situation not his making and would be kinder to him to let his mom do it) and I still didn't get the damn epilogue slide.  

I even got a whacked out conversation with Eamon at the end asking me if I noticed anything strange aboiut Connor.  There was no option for me to  Yea...umm You mean...aside from the HUGE hole in his chest from the murder knife?
Zombie Connor!

Yeah, I have noticed that he is sort of.........DEAD!

[cmessaz]

Heh all hail the Steward!

[tmp7704]

sylvanaerie wrote...

agreed. BTW I usually sacrifice Isolde now, killing Connor  was like pulling teeth without Novacaine.  I had to get her to do it (Figured it wasn't the kid's fault as he was caught up in an adult situation not his making and would be kinder to him to let his mom do it) and I still didn't get the damn epilogue slide.  

I generally go with Connor kill merely because it's most straightforward -- killing Isolde doesn't guarantee you'd be able to force the demon back, it merely gives you chance to try. On the other hand removing Connor guarantees the demon will be gone.

There's couple more aspects to it too -- losing the kid is awful but with Isolde still alive (and also being someone Eamon supposedly loves dearly) they can have more kids. And if you're feeling mean, then letting Isolde live with the knowledge all she did was for nothing is worse fate for her imo than just letting her die.

edit: drats, top of the page. I have no new picture, will a link do instead? http://social.biowar...m/project/2771/ 

Modifié par tmp7704, 22 mai 2010 - 06:30 .