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[Serissia]

yukidama wrote...

I don't like making my faces presets, they always get changed. I guess it's so that they fit the sliders or something, but it annoys me.

Toolset morph vs. CC preset

Yeah, I noticed the weird changes between the two too.  I usually throw my face in the preset just so, I don't start w/ a totally different head and then link the Toolset one after.

[mellifera]

cmessaz wrote...

Yuki, that is the lighting. I dont have too much trouble, I guess I'm prepared for it. Plus, the shapeshifting gives me nightmares.

No, it's not just the lighting, the nose is distinctly different as are the eyes. I had the CC version in the game for a short while and it is the same. I guess it wasn't the best example, it's more prevalent in other characters.

[mellifera]

@ sabreene and tmp... that makes sense. I do the same as Serissia, I just put the head in the CC so that it doesn't look totally different. But sometimes you put the preset in and it looks like a total disaster. Try making a face based off of Eleanor Cousland's morph and you'll see what a clusterf!ck the nose becomes, eek.

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Yuki, that is the lighting. I dont have too much trouble, I guess I'm prepared for it. Plus, the shapeshifting gives me nightmares.

No, it's not just the lighting, the nose is distinctly different as are the eyes. I had the CC version in the game for a short while and it is the same. I guess it wasn't the best example, it's more prevalent in other characters.

Weird. I guess I have learnt not to tweak facial features too much in the toolset. I create the basic things that I cannot use in CC and then spend an hour in CC tweaking it there.

[mellifera]

And when I made her Dalish in the CC...





Yeaaaaah.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Well there is that. But the hair seems stringy or something. And the tattoo is gone, I made her in the toolset so I could have that tattoo, put her in CC and the tattoo was fine. In game it is gone.

That happened with my Brosca's custom tattoo. I wanted to get screenshots during the opening scene so I made a preset. Never again, it messed up her entire face and put the wrong tat on. I stick with making the morph in the toolset and adding it to the first save. Makes it much easier to tweak mid game too.

Oh I have a ton of presets and they don't have problems usually. I don't use morphs on shapeshifting mages. Otherwise much weirdness ensues.

Really. I didn't know that. When I made my initial Dalish she was a shapeshifter, and had no problems with a morph. I must try again now. As long as I'm making faces anyhow. I've played maybe 10 total minutes today. The rest...tinkering with morphs.

I spend more time morphing and modding than I do playing. Yeah, fade shapeshifting can even screw up for non-mages. Arms and legs and butts everywhere, big mess! Or does no one play the fade anymore....I know I don't.

Well if it helps, my shapeshifter Dalish is now created, morphed and working fine.

Here's Siarri...The Dalish mage that will have the happy-ish ending with Alistair. Since Lyra is probably going to suffer through the WC ending.


Spider and Mage

[Gilsa]

yukidama wrote...

I don't like making my faces presets, they always get changed. I guess it's so that they fit the sliders or something, but it annoys me.

Toolset morph vs. CC preset

I thought it was just me. I couldn't figure out why my toolset creations didn't translate well as a CC mop.

[mellifera]

Gilsa wrote...

yukidama wrote...

I don't like making my faces presets, they always get changed. I guess it's so that they fit the sliders or something, but it annoys me.

Toolset morph vs. CC preset

I thought it was just me. I couldn't figure out why my toolset creations didn't translate well as a CC mop.

Since I'm the kind of person who spends a bajillion years perfecting the slope of the nose or the shape of the eye, it is very traumatic

Modifié par yukidama, 23 mai 2010 - 04:52 .

[cmessaz]

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

Modifié par cmessaz, 23 mai 2010 - 04:53 .

[Gilsa]

Oh, the toolset is very evil. I'll open up Rica's face, copy her settings over, and then start modifying from there so the new preset would look like Rica's sister. And then some days, I just want to move the slider allllll the way over here where it has the more attractive face shape I like yet it doesn't look anything like the Rica I started out with. So I try to compromise and move the slider back.



The toolset is just a tug of war some days. =p

[sabreene]

It really came to my attention about a month ago, when I was trying to make my own Rica for the CC, so then I could make a PC that looked similar to her. (I thought the Rica in game should be prettier than she was, just to make sense for the story!).

So the Rica I made for the .mor file in game looked like this (sad face was the only picture I had)


But the .mop file,  when I went to the CC, it looked like this: (different hair)


The eye shape and nose had completely changed, along with the regular tattoo.

Modifié par sabreene, 23 mai 2010 - 05:02 .

[sabreene]

cmessaz wrote...

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

It does do weird things! When I was in the fade using a .mor file, when I turned back to a human from a mouse,  I would still be a mouse, with my tail straight up in the air!

[cmessaz]

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

It does do weird things! When I was in the fade using a .mor file, when I turned back to a human from a mouse,  I would still be a mouse, with my tail straight up in the air!

SERIOUS funkiness. Try that improved shapeshifting mod. That is the one where there were armpits are where heads are supposed to go and arms and, well you get the idea.

[sabreene]

cmessaz wrote...

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

It does do weird things! When I was in the fade using a .mor file, when I turned back to a human from a mouse,  I would still be a mouse, with my tail straight up in the air!

SERIOUS funkiness. Try that improved shapeshifting mod. That is the one where there were armpits are where heads are supposed to go and arms and, well you get the idea.

I haven't gotten that yet, but I did get a walking spider. I wouldn't turn human anymore. It was actually very disturbing, since I don't like spiders in the first place!

[cmessaz]

HOLY crap on the morph difference! I have never had that problem, not once! The colors may change a bit, but today's issue was after CC, the tattoo appeared in there just not in-game. Then again my armors keep degrading themselves as well. I just loaded my rogue and serissia's armor set is now "rough" and my "leather" studded set is now "cured" just a ton of weirdness.

[cmessaz]

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

It does do weird things! When I was in the fade using a .mor file, when I turned back to a human from a mouse,  I would still be a mouse, with my tail straight up in the air!

SERIOUS funkiness. Try that improved shapeshifting mod. That is the one where there were armpits are where heads are supposed to go and arms and, well you get the idea.

I haven't gotten that yet, but I did get a walking spider. I wouldn't turn human anymore. It was actually very disturbing, since I don't like spiders in the first place!

I totally hate the spiders in this game. They make my skin crawl.

Modifié par cmessaz, 23 mai 2010 - 05:03 .

[sabreene]

cmessaz wrote...

HOLY crap on the morph difference! I have never had that problem, not once! The colors may change a bit, but today's issue was after CC, the tattoo appeared in there just not in-game. Then again my armors keep degrading themselves as well. I just loaded my rogue and serissia's armor set is now "rough" and my "leather" studded set is now "cured" just a ton of weirdness.

That's weird! What is up with your game?! Did you ever get ZevranASAP to stop working?

On the morphs-- Maybe you don't use too much on the "features" tab, so it doesn't become an issue with your characters too much. I find it worse on some of the nose shapes and eye shapes, this one was the slanted eyes. On the .mor she just had 10% slanted, just a hint. On the .mop for the CC, it took it all the way up! Really made a difference.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

There is quite a bit of documentation about shapeshifters and morphs. http://whuffie.wordp...d-morph-for-pc/
It is probably worse for me because I use shapeshifting mods. But it is a problem for others as well.

From what I've read it's just mostly in the fade sequence. Which I use skip the fade for anyhow. It doesn't seem to effect regular mage shapeshifting. If you're bothered by the fade part, CC makes sense, I just wouldn't want to see you pulling your hair out if regular shapeshifting works with a morph.

[Lady Jess]

sabreene wrote...

It really came to my attention about a month ago, when I was trying to make my own Rica for the CC, so then I could make a PC that looked similar to her. (I thought the Rica in game should be prettier than she was, just to make sense for the story!).

So the Rica I made for the .mor file in game looked like this (sad face was the only picture I had)


But the .mop file,  when I went to the CC, it looked like this: (different hair)


The eye shape and nose had completely changed, along with the regular tattoo.

That's exactly what happened with my Brosca! She went from Hot to WTF

[mellifera]

Skip the Fade is my one true love. I don't even want to think back to a time when I didn't have it.

[cmessaz]

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

HOLY crap on the morph difference! I have never had that problem, not once! The colors may change a bit, but today's issue was after CC, the tattoo appeared in there just not in-game. Then again my armors keep degrading themselves as well. I just loaded my rogue and serissia's armor set is now "rough" and my "leather" studded set is now "cured" just a ton of weirdness.

That's weird! What is up with your game?! Did you ever get ZevranASAP to stop working?

On the morphs-- Maybe you don't use too much on the "features" tab, so it doesn't become an issue with your characters too much. I find it worse on some of the nose shapes and eye shapes, this one was the slanted eyes. On the .mor she just had 10% slanted, just a hint. On the .mop for the CC, it took it all the way up! Really made a difference.

No Zev ASAP won't stop working. I deleted every mod out of my override and addins folder.

Yeah, I save the feature editing mostly for CC. Basically I just want to bring in the things that are unavailable to me in there.

[SurelyForth]

yukidama wrote...

Skip the Fade is my one true love. I don't even want to think back to a time when I didn't have it.

QFT. I actually look forward to the Circle Tower now. 

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

Skip the Fade is my one true love. I don't even want to think back to a time when I didn't have it.

I know. BEST MOD EVER. I voted for file of the month last month but I don't think it won.

[cmessaz]

1 more stupid question. What does QFT mean?

[Kryyptehk]

cmessaz wrote...

1 more stupid question. What does QFT mean?

Quit f-ing talking. I think.