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[sylvanaerie]

Question for you guys and I really think there should be a farmer's almanac about the DA Universe for those of us who want to know.

If someone is tainted and survives they ALWAYS become a ghoul? Or can you get a blight sickness/exposure and just recover? What did they do to those who got sick in the Alienage?  Did they kill them?

In this instance is the taint always ghoul-time or fatal? no middle ground?

[nos_astra]

Now where is the post where I was wrong?

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]  Abrakadabra! Enchantment!

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 07:59 .

[Sandtigress]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Question for you guys and I really think there should be a farmer's almanac about the DA Universe for those of us who want to know.

If someone is tainted and survives they ALWAYS become a ghoul? Or can you get a blight sickness/exposure and just recover? What did they do to those who got sick in the Alienage?  Did they kill them?

In this instance is the taint always ghoul-time or fatal? no middle ground?

According to Duncan, there is no recovery.  He tells you in the Dalish origin that he's remarkably surprised that you're even alive, and that Tamlen has absolutely no chance having been tainted for three days.

Also, in the DA Tome of Knowledge, Duncan's excerpt mentions him slaughtering an entire town because they were tainted.  I think that those who are tainted either die, or they become ghouls.


ETA: Even when the Dalish PC recovers from the blight sickness, Duncan tells you that it is still in your blood and that you are stil sick.  That is why going through the Joining and obtaining immunity from the taint is the only way you will ultimately survive, or else you will become sick and spread the taint to your clan.

Modifié par Sandtigress, 23 mai 2010 - 07:58 .

[Emerald Melios]

klarabella wrote...
I know what you mean. It's just for information purposes. I think the player died in climax (makes me think he died a little death *cough*) part about the companions is very interesting,especially the ones for not warm.

Particularly where Leliana kills herself if you sacrifice yourself.

[LadyDamodred]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Question for you guys and I really think there should be a farmer's almanac about the DA Universe for those of us who want to know.

If someone is tainted and survives they ALWAYS become a ghoul? Or can you get a blight sickness/exposure and just recover? What did they do to those who got sick in the Alienage?  Did they kill them?

In this instance is the taint always ghoul-time or fatal? no middle ground?

I think that's how it works, syl, as far as becoming tainted.  And which elves?  The ones the Tevinters were "helping"?  I think whatever they had was a fabricated plague designed solely to cover up the slave trade.

Spoilers b/c I know you're reading it:  In The Calling, Maric wonders if Rowan caught the blight sickness while in the Deep Roads and that's what caused her to waste away and die.

[Bratt1204]

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
And she turns into the Bîtch Queen before she's killed.

I'm sorry, because I did laugh.

Alistair is totally the sort of guy to marry someone and let her believe it's for love and then continue carrying on with someone else. Why would anyone like that Alistair much less want to write 300,000 words about him?

I don't agree with that at all, sorry. I think that's completely contrary to his character.  

[nos_astra]

Bratt1204 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
And she turns into the Bîtch Queen before she's killed.

I'm sorry, because I did laugh.

Alistair is totally the sort of guy to marry someone and let her believe it's for love and then continue carrying on with someone else. Why would anyone like that Alistair much less want to write 300,000 words about him?

I don't agree with that at all, sorry. I think that's completely contrary to his character.

Yeah, that's what SurelyForth wanted to say.

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 08:01 .

[Serissia]

Quick question, is anyone using Devout or Pious currently? Those armors use a heavy armor model do they still clank when you walk?

[Sarah1281]

klarabella wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Just wanted to throw in a link for the writers here. It's the ruler, romance and companion (excluding Morrigan) epilogue slides:

http://docs.google.com/fileview

I copied them from the toolset the other day. Hope the pdf is readable.

 Thanks for posting that. I tend to refuse to believe anything the epilogue says about the PC, though, because the PC could choose to do so many things and there are so few epilogue slides to take those choices into account.

I know what you mean. It's just for information purposes. I think the player died in climax (makes me think he died a little death *cough*) part about the companions is very interesting,especially the ones for not warm.

Yeah, basically they seem to have 'PC stays with Wardens' 'PC dies' 'PC stays in Denerim' and 'PC goes travelling' options. None of my PCs ever decided to go travelling and the ones that returned to their clan, went back to the Circle, returned to Highever, or returned to Orzammar didn't appreciate hearing that they apparently got lost on the way there.

[nos_astra]

SurelyForth, look what I've found for you:

[Herr Uhl]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Question for you guys and I really think there should be a farmer's almanac about the DA Universe for those of us who want to know.

If someone is tainted and survives they ALWAYS become a ghoul? Or can you get a blight sickness/exposure and just recover? What did they do to those who got sick in the Alienage?  Did they kill them?

In this instance is the taint always ghoul-time or fatal? no middle ground?

They can recover. They won't become GW nor Ghoul in that case. But most die, some become ghouls and even less survive.

David Gaider wrote...

Baher of Glory wrote...

An entire canteen or - perhaps more medieval - an entire pumpkin calabash is certainly A LOT, right?

No. We're talking about the concentration of the taint, and in a short span of time, and not just the quantity of blood. The reason Archdemon blood is used is because it's the easiest way to get the concentration required, but it's not the *only* way. Regardless, just drinking the blood of a normal, run-of-the-mill darkspawn isn't usually going to cut it -- that's why magical means are usually required.

Note that simply recovering from the taint (which is possible -- Dog did it, after all -- though it's rare) is not enough. You must have both the quick concentration of the taint AND the recovery. I use the word "recovery" loosely, however. As the poster above me mentions, even Grey Wardens don't become immune to the taint. They still suffer from it in the long run.

[SurelyForth]

klarabella wrote...

SurelyForth, look what I've found for you:

Squee! Now I'm debating adding it to my signature.

And Bratt, I was being super sarcastic in my post. I was just mocking bad fanfic conventions. 

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...

SurelyForth, look what I've found for you:

Squee! Now I'm debating adding it to my signature.

And Bratt, I was being super sarcastic in my post. I was just mocking bad fanfic conventions. 

Awww...Anderstair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best of both worlds!:wub::wub:

[nos_astra]

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...

SurelyForth, look what I've found for you:

Squee! Now I'm debating adding it to my signature.

And Bratt, I was being super sarcastic in my post. I was just mocking bad fanfic conventions.

Maybe you need a second signature, Andersese's marvellous mouth saying something typically Anders.

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 08:39 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Anders and his Master Ser Pounce-a-Lot are the biggest reasons for justifying multiple playthroughs of Awakening.

[nos_astra]

AMWT fanart from tahara - 5 and a half Wardens:
Mikarra (OC), Nathaniel, Anders + Ser Pounce-a-lot, Elinora Cousland (PC), Alistair

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 08:50 .

[sylvanaerie]

Herr Uhl wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Question for you guys and I really think there should be a farmer's almanac about the DA Universe for those of us who want to know.

If someone is tainted and survives they ALWAYS become a ghoul? Or can you get a blight sickness/exposure and just recover? What did they do to those who got sick in the Alienage?  Did they kill them?

In this instance is the taint always ghoul-time or fatal? no middle ground?

They can recover. They won't become GW nor Ghoul in that case. But most die, some become ghouls and even less survive.

David Gaider wrote...

Baher of Glory wrote...

An entire canteen or - perhaps more medieval - an entire pumpkin calabash is certainly A LOT, right?

No. We're talking about the concentration of the taint, and in a short span of time, and not just the quantity of blood. The reason Archdemon blood is used is because it's the easiest way to get the concentration required, but it's not the *only* way. Regardless, just drinking the blood of a normal, run-of-the-mill darkspawn isn't usually going to cut it -- that's why magical means are usually required.

Note that simply recovering from the taint (which is possible -- Dog did it, after all -- though it's rare) is not enough. You must have both the quick concentration of the taint AND the recovery. I use the word "recovery" loosely, however. As the poster above me mentions, even Grey Wardens don't become immune to the taint. They still suffer from it in the long run.

I remember reading that now. Thanks Herr Uhl.  I had forgotten about Dog.

[Addai]

Bratt1204 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
And she turns into the Bîtch Queen before she's killed.

I'm sorry, because I did laugh.

Alistair is totally the sort of guy to marry someone and let her believe it's for love and then continue carrying on with someone else. Why would anyone like that Alistair much less want to write 300,000 words about him?

I don't agree with that at all, sorry. I think that's completely contrary to his character.  

I might be mistaken, but I think she was going for sarcasm there.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

klarabella wrote...

AMWT fanart from tahara - 5 and a half Wardens: Mikarra (OC), Nathaniel, Anders + Ser Pounce-a-lot, Elinora Cousland (PC), Alistair

Note how Anders reclines in his chair, ever so laid-back. Because he knows he has the power of The Pounce on his shoulder. The confidence you can cut with a knife!:wub:

[Addai]

tmp7704 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

 The Dalish, by and large, want nothing to do with humans and stay away from them. Sure there are mages like Velanna who go rogue but that's no different than, say, Jowan running from the Circle. Whilel the mages stay with the Clan (or even freaking lead it as the Keeper) they aren't off violently killing humans.

Well, in two game installments we have the Dalish keeper (Zathrian) who creates the werewolf curse (which would end up much more widespread if it wasn't for Lady of the Forest herself) and the apprenrice of the keeper (Velanna) who do goes of on human killing rampage, to the point where she nearly completely cuts off large human area from trade. This is pretty high percentage of known Dalish mages that do cause humans considerable issues, one way or another.

And yes, this is no different from Jowan and such (well Jowan wasn't actively trying to hurt people but let's say he's just as bad for the sake of simpler argument) But this very fact --that they're no different-- is why they are hunted exactly like Jowan and other runaway mages. Because the trouble they can potentially cause are just too big to ignore.

edit: to maybe put it differently, to the Chantry a mage is a mage and it doesn't matter what shape their ears are. Because the ear shape doesn't matter any to the magic itself and by extension, to the demons from Fade who are drawn by it.

I agree that the templars would hunt Dalish mages, too, but I missed what prompted this discussion?

[SurelyForth]

klarabella wrote...

Maybe you need a second signature, Andersese's marvellous mouth saying something typically Anders.

I've thought about making one, but I have zero artsy skills.

klarabella wrote...

AMWT fanart from tahara - 5 and a half Wardens: Mikarra (OC), Nathaniel, Anders + Ser Pounce-a-lot, Elinora Cousland (PC), Alistair

Her art style is so nice, but Anders is cracking me up. His ponytail is so bouncy and full!

[nos_astra]

Anders is awesome! I'd really love to see him and Alistair being snark buddies. I could die a happy woman.

Also Alistair likes cats, I'm sure! He once had a very large cat.

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 08:53 .

[Sarah1281]

Addai67 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

 The Dalish, by and large, want nothing to do with humans and stay away from them. Sure there are mages like Velanna who go rogue but that's no different than, say, Jowan running from the Circle. Whilel the mages stay with the Clan (or even freaking lead it as the Keeper) they aren't off violently killing humans.

Well, in two game installments we have the Dalish keeper (Zathrian) who creates the werewolf curse (which would end up much more widespread if it wasn't for Lady of the Forest herself) and the apprenrice of the keeper (Velanna) who do goes of on human killing rampage, to the point where she nearly completely cuts off large human area from trade. This is pretty high percentage of known Dalish mages that do cause humans considerable issues, one way or another.

And yes, this is no different from Jowan and such (well Jowan wasn't actively trying to hurt people but let's say he's just as bad for the sake of simpler argument) But this very fact --that they're no different-- is why they are hunted exactly like Jowan and other runaway mages. Because the trouble they can potentially cause are just too big to ignore.

edit: to maybe put it differently, to the Chantry a mage is a mage and it doesn't matter what shape their ears are. Because the ear shape doesn't matter any to the magic itself and by extension, to the demons from Fade who are drawn by it.

I agree that the templars would hunt Dalish mages, too, but I missed what prompted this discussion?

I think the initial question was how much the DE would know about Templars and the Chantry.

[nos_astra]

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
Maybe you need a second signature, Andersese's marvellous mouth saying something typically Anders.

I've thought about making one, but I have zero artsy skills.

Give me a screenshot and a line (from the game or Undertow) and I'll see what I can do.

SurelyForth wrote...
Her art style is so nice, but Anders is cracking me up. His ponytail is so bouncy and full!

Well, seven years after Awakening he might look like this.

Modifié par klarabella, 23 mai 2010 - 08:58 .

[cmessaz]

Russalka wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Hello, Cate Blanchett!

Holy crap you are right! Good thing I deleted her.