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[Sarah1281]

One of these days I'm going to try to see if I can lose the Landsmeet. Maybe if Anora sides with Loghain I can manage it?

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Especially if you consider Morrigan's attitude towards them, as we were discussing in another context last night.  Why people believe she wants to have a demon baby is beyond me.  I guess because that's what Alistair calls it, but he's being facetious and anyway what does he know. 

[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Do the chanter's board quests and Krylocks quests have any bearing on landsmeet? Cuz I'm feeling extremely lazy , I have all my treaties done, the ashes ready, and just wanna get to the landsmeet and finish Lyra's game at this point.

What takes more effort? Doing all the side quests "just in case" or just dealing with all of Loghain's men at once at Landsmeet because you missed a vote somewhere? =p

Edit: Gonna recycle a old screenshot due to lack of time to play the game, atm.

Meh, I'm master of the landsmeet. Last time I even brought up Cailan and still got the win. I just make that little snake Anora think she's getting her way.

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

One of these days I'm going to try to see if I can lose the Landsmeet. Maybe if Anora sides with Loghain I can manage it?

I lose it about half the time.  I'm not sure you can lose it if Anora sides with you.  It's more fun to lose.

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

One of these days I'm going to try to see if I can lose the Landsmeet. Maybe if Anora sides with Loghain I can manage it?

Either tell Anora no, or instead of bringing up valid points at the landsmeet focus on Ostagar and Alistair being the rightful heir. Or forget to talk to Bann Sighard and Alfstanna after the rescue the queen quest.

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

No no, I don't mean personality at all. I mean...Ugh if there WERE romances in awakenings those would be the ...options. Guys has Zev, Morrigan, and Leliana. Girls had Zev, Alistair, and Leliana. NOTHING to do with their personas at all. Just that I can see how they'd match up to our old companions romancewise. This is what I get for posting before coffee...lol

Ah I see.  Once again it seems to me that the male players got shafted in this game, especially the hetero ones.  I hope there's some kind of halfway decent resolution to the Morrigan romance, to take some of the sting out.

I don't think the Alistair romance is much better.  If he's king, most PCs will get dumped, with an option to be a mistress.  The HNFs are the only ones that can have a "legitimate" relationship post AD.  If he's not king, you can have the happily ever after....but at what cost.  No matter the options, the only reason neither of you are dead is because the lov of you life slept with another woman and his demon spawn is running around somewhere.  I wouldn't exaclty call that a happy ending.

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Well, not yet, but since half the reason he breaks up with you and the only reason he breaks up with a HN is the heir issue you know he's going to get married at some point and try for kids. Then the relationship either ends or you are the other woman.

[AnniLau]

I lost on purpose last time. Chasing Loghain through the hall was fun. "Hey, come back here and let me kick your ass! Where do you think you're going?!"

Modifié par AnniLau, 24 mai 2010 - 06:17 .

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...

Either tell Anora no, or instead of bringing up valid points at the landsmeet focus on Ostagar and Alistair being the rightful heir. Or forget to talk to Bann Sighard and Alfstanna after the rescue the queen quest.

Does Alfstanna side with Loghain if you don't talk to her?  That makes me sad.

[Lady Jess]

Oh hey, I can browse right in steam while I play! Learn something new every day.

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

One of these days I'm going to try to see if I can lose the Landsmeet. Maybe if Anora sides with Loghain I can manage it?

Either tell Anora no, or instead of bringing up valid points at the landsmeet focus on Ostagar and Alistair being the rightful heir. Or forget to talk to Bann Sighard and Alfstanna after the rescue the queen quest.

 One time I did forget to talk to them because I was doing my DC in a romance with him so I could get the dumping scene but then I wanted to see him declare himself King so I loaded from a save right before the Landsmeet and broke up with him (because he didn't do it when I did the exact same thing in a relationship with him) but I forgot to talk to either of them. Sighard still claimed I was telling the truth as he heard what happened from his son but Alfstanna didn't know about her brother.

[Addai]

AnniLau wrote...

I lost on purpose last time. Chasing Loghain through the hall was fun.

Oh yes.  I loved setting an Inferno in the middle of the LM chamber and throwing a Crushing Prison on Loghain, not to mention getting to fight with Alfstanna and Bry-Bry.

Plus it's much more satisfying to see Anora turn on you and Loghain's ruthless efficiency come out.  Puts it into perspective for those who feel badly about how things go down if the tables are turned.

[MelRedux]

Lady Jess wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

No no, I don't mean personality at all. I mean...Ugh if there WERE romances in awakenings those would be the ...options. Guys has Zev, Morrigan, and Leliana. Girls had Zev, Alistair, and Leliana. NOTHING to do with their personas at all. Just that I can see how they'd match up to our old companions romancewise. This is what I get for posting before coffee...lol

Ah I see.  Once again it seems to me that the male players got shafted in this game, especially the hetero ones.  I hope there's some kind of halfway decent resolution to the Morrigan romance, to take some of the sting out.

I don't think the Alistair romance is much better.  If he's king, most PCs will get dumped, with an option to be a mistress.  The HNFs are the only ones that can have a "legitimate" relationship post AD.  If he's not king, you can have the happily ever after....but at what cost.  No matter the options, the only reason neither of you are dead is because the lov of you life slept with another woman and his demon spawn is running around somewhere.  I wouldn't exaclty call that a happy ending.

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

I agree to a certain extent Jess.  the problem is we have no idea what the child is.   And not having that knowledge, it makes the decision a selfish one.  "We don't know what this baby will be....could be normal, could be Flemeth, could be a dragon demon who will plague the countryside for centuries! Who knows!  But we're alive for lots of sexy time, so it's cool."

Don't get me wrong....I still do it when I'm romancing Alistair.  There is NO WAY I will let him take that final blow again and he dies.

[Maria13]

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The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

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Even if he marries Anora, I'd argue that is hardly a love match and both of them are going into it with their eyes open...  You're his lover, his first love, you've fought together you've made history changing decisions together and you'll probably die together, why aren't you entitled to keep that arrangement?

[Sarah1281]

Maria13 wrote...

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Even if he marries Anora, I'd argue that is hardly a love match and both of them are going into it with their eyes open...  You're his lover, his first love, you've fought together you've made history changing decisions together and you'll probably die together, why aren't you entitled to keep that arrangement?

My problem with it is that I can't look at it from the historical point of view that probably fits in better with DA. I think of it in the more modern sense where being a mistress is a bad thing and demeaning so my characters inevitably feel they're worth more than being reduced to his hot young thing on the side and so let him go after the Landsmeet.

[MelRedux]

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Especially if you consider Morrigan's attitude towards them, as we were discussing in another context last night.  Why people believe she wants to have a demon baby is beyond me.  I guess because that's what Alistair calls it, but he's being facetious and anyway what does he know. 

TBH, the whole dark ritual thing confuses me., so I may not be seeing everything.  But.... Why does she want an Old God baby so bad?  Why is it different?  And if it's for something good, why doesn't she just tell you?  I see nothing good coming out of a Morrigan/Old God baby. 

[MelRedux]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Maria13 wrote...

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Even if he marries Anora, I'd argue that is hardly a love match and both of them are going into it with their eyes open...  You're his lover, his first love, you've fought together you've made history changing decisions together and you'll probably die together, why aren't you entitled to keep that arrangement?

My problem with it is that I can't look at it from the historical point of view that probably fits in better with DA. I think of it in the more modern sense where being a mistress is a bad thing and demeaning so my characters inevitably feel they're worth more than being reduced to his hot young thing on the side and so let him go after the Landsmeet.

^^I am guilty of this as well.  Which is why a mistress PC goes running into Nathaniel's arms.

Modifié par Mel_Redux, 24 mai 2010 - 06:29 .

[sylvanaerie]

Sarah1281 wrote...

One of these days I'm going to try to see if I can lose the Landsmeet. Maybe if Anora sides with Loghain I can manage it?

yea just don't support her bid when yoiu talk to her prior (Or just don't talk to her at all). she will side with Daddy Dearest and then all hell breaks out.  Most fun I havve ever had at a Landsmeet

[Gilsa]

Mel_Redux wrote...

TBH, the whole dark ritual thing confuses me., so I may not be seeing everything.  But.... Why does she want an Old God baby so bad?  Why is it different?  And if it's for something good, why doesn't she just tell you?  I see nothing good coming out of a Morrigan/Old God baby. 

Morrigan's description in the toolset says:

Morrigan lacks the will to care about most things enough to excite herself over them. Her primary concern is her survival. She has a difficult time relating to other people, and feels extremely vulnerable outside of the marsh. Her sense of humor is dark and twisted, and she finds the most morbid things amusing.

Her primary goal is to gain skills and knowledge and become a powerful sorceress in her own right. She believes that having a child with the PC's blood will give her access to this power.

[Kyra27]

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Do the chanter's board quests and Krylocks quests have any bearing on landsmeet? Cuz I'm feeling extremely lazy , I have all my treaties done, the ashes ready, and just wanna get to the landsmeet and finish Lyra's game at this point.

What takes more effort? Doing all the side quests "just in case" or just dealing with all of Loghain's men at once at Landsmeet because you missed a vote somewhere? =p

Edit: Gonna recycle an old screenshot due to lack of time to play the game, atm.

Hey, how did you get this conversation with this cutscene??? Is there a mod that does this? If there is, pleaso someone direct me to it?

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Maria13 wrote...

The mistress thing drives me nuts. He isn't married, you aren't "the other woman" Your pc is the woman he loves and he happens to be king. The demon spawn, well sacrifices must be made sometimes. I'll not be number one priority in my own husband's life for the next 14 years, it doesn't make me any less happy. It's a sacrifice we both willingly made to have a better life.  Of course, I also don't believe the child is a demon.

Even if he marries Anora, I'd argue that is hardly a love match and both of them are going into it with their eyes open...  You're his lover, his first love, you've fought together you've made history changing decisions together and you'll probably die together, why aren't you entitled to keep that arrangement?

My problem with it is that I can't look at it from the historical point of view that probably fits in better with DA. I think of it in the more modern sense where being a mistress is a bad thing and demeaning so my characters inevitably feel they're worth more than being reduced to his hot young thing on the side and so let him go after the Landsmeet.

BUT unless you put him with Anora, he isn't married, you aren't a mistress. How is being the love of a single man, even if he's king any less honorable than being someone elses girlfriend? Yes, he tries to break up with you on the basis that EVENTUALLY he thinks he'll HAVE to get married and HAVE to have a child but those are expectations, presumptions, and not in the immediate scheme of things. Clearly six months down the road he is still single, and that's what we have to work with.  It's much easier if you don't add future issues that don't exist into your decision. Burn that bridge when and if you come to it.

[soignee]

Gilsa that shot is hot, mannnn I need to install it now don't I? Asssss usual I have no saves, unless I cheat and bolster an old save with Satinalia gifts, hrmmmm...

OH GOD LOOK AT ME I'M ONE OF YOU NOW, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Modifié par soignee, 24 mai 2010 - 06:39 .

[sylvanaerie]

Kyra27 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Do the chanter's board quests and Krylocks quests have any bearing on landsmeet? Cuz I'm feeling extremely lazy , I have all my treaties done, the ashes ready, and just wanna get to the landsmeet and finish Lyra's game at this point.

What takes more effort? Doing all the side quests "just in case" or just dealing with all of Loghain's men at once at Landsmeet because you missed a vote somewhere? =p

Edit: Gonna recycle an old screenshot due to lack of time to play the game, atm.

Hey, how did you get this conversation with this cutscene??? Is there a mod that does this? If there is, pleaso someone direct me to it?

Its TMP"s Mod

http://social.biowar...m/project/2418/

[Gilsa]

Kyra27 wrote...

Hey, how did you get this conversation with this cutscene??? Is there a mod that does this? If there is, pleaso someone direct me to it?

Mod: http://social.biowar...m/project/2418/

For now, take out any Alistair mod fixes you may have from your override folder. Put the new one in (this will only trigger the first time you take him to the tent). When you're done squeeing over the scene and ready to move on, take the new mod out of your folder and put your Alistair mods back in. At some point, this will be added in to the main Alistair mod, but this is the way to go for now.

[nos_astra]

soignee wrote...
Gilsa that shot is hot, mannnn I need to install it now don't I? Asssss usual I have no saves, unless I cheat and bolster an old save with Satinalia gifts, hrmmmm...

OH GOD LOOK AT ME I'M ONE OF YOU NOW, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

HAHA! 

[MelRedux]

Gilsa wrote...

Morrigan's description in the toolset says:

Morrigan lacks the will to care about most things enough to excite herself over them. Her primary concern is her survival. She has a difficult time relating to other people, and feels extremely vulnerable outside of the marsh. Her sense of humor is dark and twisted, and she finds the most morbid things amusing.

Her primary goal is to gain skills and knowledge and become a powerful sorceress in her own right. She believes that having a child with the PC's blood will give her access to this power.

And nothing good can come out of that.  I predict Flemeth 2.0.

EDIT: Top o page.  And as much as I love this shot, I think I need to start stealing others.  This is the only one I have!

Modifié par Mel_Redux, 24 mai 2010 - 06:47 .