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[mellifera]

If anyone is curious about that hairstyle, it IS in the More Hairstyles mod but it never shows up in-game for me. I've only seen it when I was trying to make an elf character in the toolset. It's called "ef_har_jaheira" btw.

[nranola]

Astranagant wrote...

I stopped respecting Alistair when I tried going Riordan's route and discovered that Alistair had no sense of responibility or duty to the Grey Wardens, his only concern was his personal relationship with Duncan, which is practically spitting on Duncan's memory since Duncan was dedicated to stopping the Blight above all else. Alistair doesn't have any problem dropping everything and deserting because he doesn't like the ideas of a ranking member of the organization he's sworn allegience to.

I know what you mean. I understand if he doesn't approve of it, but walking out at the peak of the darkspawn invasion when there are only three Grey Wardens left in Ferelden was... uncalled for. But I guess people are capable of doing irrational things when blinded by anger.

Addai67 wrote...

With Alistair, it's different, though.  I almost feel like my Dalish character is more compatible with him than my HNF (one reason I was nostalgic enough about her game to re-play her).  Alistair grew up in noble circles, but as a commoner and rather beaten down by nobles.  DEF is the daughter of a keeper (Arlathan noble stock) who grew up living rough, and Alistair is the son of a king who grew up sleeping in stables.  Plus as I said upthread, there's a kind of Romeo and Juliet quality I like about that pairing.  But I could also see a Dalish character going well with Zevran, and a mage or dwarf could also easily go either way.

Wait... DEF is the daughter of a Keeper? I didn't know that. Then again I remember her persuasion being too low when I had her ask her caretaker about her mother, so I guess that's probably where it was mentioned. For Alistair I can only stomach HNF, although DNF sounds like a good pairing too given the background. But I had my DNF go for Gorim since it seemed more fitting.

cmessaz wrote...

If there is a way to load a pre-created character into the toolset, I don't know it. That would be nice, however. You can take a generic model, tweak it like you want, and replace the existing pc in a save game.

I hope there is a way; it'd be a real chore trying to recreate my existing characters. But thanks all the same.

[cmessaz]

Again I see your point. From where I stand Loghain needs to die. I don't have a problem executing him, especially as a human noble because of my families murderer being named Teyrn after Loghain knew what he did. "Blood can only be repaid in blood" This is a setting not like current times. Eye for an eye is still important in this setting, I believe. But that is only my opinion, agree or no.

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

If anyone is curious about that hairstyle, it IS in the More Hairstyles mod but it never shows up in-game for me. I've only seen it when I was trying to make an elf character in the toolset. It's called "ef_har_jaheira" btw.

I wonder why! I have never seen it in the toolset, does it show up right in game if you apply it via-toolset?
Ahhh thanks sylvaneerie. Now you just need my 2 updates and you are good to go! BTW, have you gotten all of the hairstyles working yet? I can help if not.

Modifié par cmessaz, 15 avril 2010 - 05:40 .

[LadyDamodred]

nranola wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

His giggle is sooo worth it.

Hnnggghh... ;3; You make me want to go over my HNF again!

That said, am I the only one who pairs up certain characters exclusively to certain origin stories? Like how I pair up my HNF with Alistair and my CEF to Zevran. I dunno, having my other characters go for the same person makes me feel like a dirty cheater and it makes me sick to my stomach. Silly, I know. >.<;

Nope, I do it, too.  HNF and Mages for Alistair, CE and DE for Zevran.

[Addai]

nranola wrote...

Wait... DEF is the daughter of a Keeper? I didn't know that. Then again I remember her persuasion being too low when I had her ask her caretaker about her mother, so I guess that's probably where it was mentioned.

Yes, your father was a keeper who died (in a bandit attack I think?  I re-started this character in Ostagar so not sure on that) and shortly thereafter your mother wandered into the forest out of grief, presumably dying as well.  Varathorn will also mention your father being a keeper.

[cmessaz]

Addai67 wrote...

nranola wrote...

Wait... DEF is the daughter of a Keeper? I didn't know that. Then again I remember her persuasion being too low when I had her ask her caretaker about her mother, so I guess that's probably where it was mentioned.

Yes, your father was a keeper who died (in a bandit attack I think?  I re-started this character in Ostagar so not sure on that) and shortly thereafter your mother wandered into the forest out of grief, presumably dying as well.  Varathorn will also mention your father being a keeper.

Yes you have to speak to that one lady (I forget her name) in your Origin and I think you even have to pass a persuade check for her to tellyou what happened to your parents.

Modifié par cmessaz, 15 avril 2010 - 05:42 .

[sylvanaerie]

cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

If anyone is curious about that hairstyle, it IS in the More Hairstyles mod but it never shows up in-game for me. I've only seen it when I was trying to make an elf character in the toolset. It's called "ef_har_jaheira" btw.

I wonder why! I have never seen it in the toolset, does it show up right in game if you apply it via-toolset?
Ahhh thanks sylvaneerie. Now you just need my 2 updates and you are good to go! BTW, have you gotten all of the hairstyles working yet? I can help if not.

No I haven't but I did get a rar program and hve been doing a lot of modding to the stuff on my game with the ones I can open with that now.  I got that all in one xml thingee thats supposed to fix all the different chargen things but I don't know how to use it? 

[cmessaz]

Sylvanaerie: You mean the link I sent you for the chargen compiler?

[Addai]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Nope, I do it, too.  HNF and Mages for Alistair, CE and DE for Zevran.

It's kind of interesting to pair a mage with Alistair, with the whole templar thing.  I had my previous character, an elven mage, begin falling for him- mainly because I can't stomach sending him to Morrigan for his first time - but she being an elven blood mage, there seemed to be very little in common on which to hang a romance hook.  So I played it that she succumbed to the loneliness of the road, but finding out he was going to be king (which she did after the Ashes quest, so, late in the game and after sleeping with him) was the nail in the coffin.  She already knew it wasn't going to work out.  The breakup dialogue with Alistair was sad but he is quite classy if you break up with him for this reason.  There is also a dialogue line to ask him about her being an elf, for which I was glad.  It worked out really well for her story.

Modifié par Addai67, 15 avril 2010 - 05:46 .

[sylvanaerie]

cmessaz wrote...

Sylvanaerie: You mean the link I sent you for the chargen compiler?

Thats the one.

[cmessaz]

sylvanaerie wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sylvanaerie: You mean the link I sent you for the chargen compiler?

Thats the one.

Let me see how to set that up and  I'll pm you, it is somewhat confusing.

[nranola]

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

[mellifera]

cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

If anyone is curious about that hairstyle, it IS in the More Hairstyles mod but it never shows up in-game for me. I've only seen it when I was trying to make an elf character in the toolset. It's called "ef_har_jaheira" btw.

I wonder why! I have never seen it in the toolset, does it show up right in game if you apply it via-toolset?
Ahhh thanks sylvaneerie. Now you just need my 2 updates and you are good to go! BTW, have you gotten all of the hairstyles working yet? I can help if not.

Yeah, it shows up in game, but it's only for female elves as far as I know. It shows up when I select hair and pick "All Model Files". My biggest issue with it is that I don't like using it when the caracter isn't blonde, since the rings change tint with the hair color.

Here's how it looks in my game on a generic elf lady I made in 2 seconds:

Modifié par yukidama, 15 avril 2010 - 05:50 .

[cmessaz]

nranola wrote...

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

I have actually never done that. How does it work out?

Yukidama-That was from the toolset? SWEEEEEET I am happy now! Why the heck doesn't this appear in the chargen though. Hmmm I need to have a look at that. What is the hair's name in the toolset?

Modifié par cmessaz, 15 avril 2010 - 05:50 .

[Serissia]

Astranagant wrote...
The goal of the Wardens is to battle the Darkspawn and the Blight. Whatever Loghain's crimes, they're not the issue for the Wardens to be concerned with. Having Loghain undergo the joining is the best political solution as it promotes unity among Ferelden's lords and army.
 
And this is coming from someone who can't stand the guy and thinks it's laughable that he's supposed to be some kind of uber-strategist but Gaider's said here on the forum that much of the chaos that seems to be part of his plans (Arl Howe, the Darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal, etc.) is really just chance and coincidence.

But this is all a distraction from the fact that Allistair is perfectly willing and able to go back on the oath he made to the Wardens and to Duncan because a superior officer's decision rubs him the wrong way. In some armies, that's desertion, in others, it's treason.

Technically you're not his superior officer till Awakening.  In Origins you're just a junior Warden who happens to be leading. 

Modifié par Serissia, 15 avril 2010 - 05:52 .

[Addai]

nranola wrote...

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

You should still hear about it from Varathorn (the merchant in the Dalish camp) if you don't pass the Persuade check, though??  Maybe his dialogue is different if you didn't get the first Persuade, I don't know.

Anyway, it affected how I played my DEF.  I felt like even though she felt like she was on a different planet in shemlen society, she was much more poised than my CEF, especially in playing kingmaker etc.  She had no inferiority complex (if anything, the Dalish have a superiority complex) because she hadn't personally been beaten down by any shemlen, and I also felt she had an inherent nobility that makes it easy for her to be kind and magnaminous.  You know, the sort of girl that Alistair likes. 

[mellifera]

cmessaz wrote...

nranola wrote...

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

I have actually never done that. How does it work out?

Yukidama-That was from the toolset? SWEEEEEET I am happy now! Why the heck doesn't this appear in the chargen though. Hmmm I need to have a look at that. What is the hair's name in the toolset?

Yup, toolset hair. It's called ef_har_jaheira.

[Addai]

Serissia wrote...

Technically you're not his superior officer till Awakening.  In Origins you're just a junior Warden who happens to be leading. 

He's probably talking about Riordan.

[ejoslin]

cmessaz wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

klarabella wrote...

cmessaz, I know, you've probably a ton of work to do but here is a bug in Alistair's dialogue, you may want to have a look at later. It's the dialogue when you talk to Goldanna after the Landsmeet and he's not King.

I just looked at it and it's a reasonably easy fix (though I can't test it).  It would not be compatible with ADP or anything though.  I'm going to put it in, though.

You are my hero yet again! I don't use ADP anymore, just yours and my epiloque and redcliffe fixes. We need to get that darn cutscene and then we are good to go. Will you let us know when you update?

I'll put both a version with the prologue changes and without the prologue changes up in my project area, and link here when it's done.  I'm waiting for further updates on DANexus until ZDF 2.0, though I may change my mind.  Depends.

[cmessaz]

Addai67 wrote...

nranola wrote...

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

You should still hear about it from Varathorn (the merchant in the Dalish camp) if you don't pass the Persuade check, though??  Maybe his dialogue is different if you didn't get the first Persuade, I don't know.

Anyway, it affected how I played my DEF.  I felt like even though she felt like she was on a different planet in shemlen society, she was much more poised than my CEF, especially in playing kingmaker etc.  She had no inferiority complex (if anything, the Dalish have a superiority complex) because she hadn't personally been beaten down by any shemlen, and I also felt she had an inherent nobility that makes it easy for her to be kind and magnaminous.  You know, the sort of girl that Alistair likes. 

No you are right, I believe he tells you something about it, but you have a response that is different if you actually knew about how they died from your origin.

[cmessaz]

Thanks a bunch ejoslin for keeping us Alistairians in mind! We appreciate it.

Yukidama: Thanks! I really need to figure out a way to import an existing character into the toolset for editing. Do you have any idea?

Modifié par cmessaz, 15 avril 2010 - 05:57 .

[nranola]

cmessaz wrote...

nranola wrote...

Veeery interesting. o3o Serves me right for not raising my persuasion. I think I was trying to RP someone who can't coerce anyone to do **** in that playthrough, for variety. xD That's how I did it with my DNF too, I think. You'll be forced to make a lot of tough choices that way; not everyone has a silver tongue.

I have actually never done that. How does it work out?

It was a big change from playing two clever rogues, for sure. I haven't gone that far with my DNF yet (who follows through with the low/no persuade setup), but it generally just makes decisions tougher for those "IMA CUT U IF U DUN CUT ME FIRST" situations. Which is really heartbreaking for this particular character because she's a real sweetheart. D:

[mellifera]

Hahahaha, remembering my talk with TheGrumpyOne earlier about making a gay Warden/~Queen~ of Ferelden... one of the faces in this preset pack looks a lot like Cailan........ let me not even go there, lmao.

[nranola]

Addai67 wrote...

You should still hear about it from Varathorn (the merchant in the Dalish camp) if you don't pass the Persuade check, though??  Maybe his dialogue is different if you didn't get the first Persuade, I don't know.

Oh, I haven't gone that far with my DEF. I just went through with her Origin story and left her at Ostagar LOL. xD

EDIT: And top page again. MOAR FANART THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO ME~

Modifié par nranola, 15 avril 2010 - 06:00 .