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#29501
Herr Uhl

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cmessaz wrote...

Isolde DID know that Jowan was an apostate, just not that he was an assassin.


Or a Malifecar.

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cmessaz wrote...

I love the heck out of battle mage. AW would be better to me if I could pick up some skills, like shield bash, etc.

This is definitely true.  I would like access to some DW talents, too.  But I always take AW, because it fits my idea of mages being warriors as well as casters.  You should at least be able to use a dagger if you're going to be fighting.  On my last elf mage, I never even activated Combat Magic, but using the Forgotten daggers, she could switch to dagger and get her own shatters after casting Cone of Cold.  It's awesome.

This illustrates my happy vision of mages who look and act like warriors and not just fluffy bunnies:

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What swords is she wearing?

#29503
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Herr Uhl wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I was just kidding about Morrigan, but I like her because she isn't perfect. She stands up for herself, but she allows hatred to sway her too easily.

Isolde is just stupid. Not only does she allow a apostate into her home (which she didn't know, I'll give her that) but when her husband got sick, she didn't even consider that he was poisoned? Especially when the healers can't heal him? And instead of keeping some of her knights to protect her and the castle, she sends them all off to search for a magical relic. She is an arlessa, with quite a bit of money. She couldn't hire scholars?

And not only that, she is unconcerned when she's sees the destruction she's wrought. Morrigan is misguided by years of abuse and having Flemeth as her mother. Isolde is just stupid.


Didn't she try to find Genitivi? He is a scholarly as they come. And bann Awesome (as he is known here) does the exact same thing, once there is no trouble. Ergo, the same thing as Isolde.

In addition to this, she didn't leave the castle undefended (you can actually ask Ser Perth about that).  All those corpses you fight on your way to Connor are her former soldiers.

#29504
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Herr Uhl wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Isolde DID know that Jowan was an apostate, just not that he was an assassin.


Or a Malifecar.

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I must confess, I have yet to kill Isolde. I've killed Connor once, but not for keeps. I just cannot bring any character to do those things. :x

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I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!

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Zeleen wrote...

What swords is she wearing?

Those are Forgotten daggers, but with tmp's Rescaled Swords and Daggers mod, it actually makes them look bigger.  I believe he said it's because they're made on a qunari model.  But I happily let my mage look so badass as to be a dual-sword wielder, especially now that she's channeling Duncan.  Edit:  And since Ali was a dual-longsword wielder in her game, you know where she learned how to use 'em.  Posted Image

DW Ali FTW

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Herr Uhl

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cmessaz wrote...

I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!


Cammen.

Edit: And the sarcastic storyteller.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 25 mai 2010 - 08:06 .


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cmessaz wrote...

I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!

Dalish are jerks?

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No, I can understand MILF love. Trust me. But the thought that she has any good qualities besides her looks is ridiculous. She's cowardly, stupid and selfish.

Cowardly and selfish people don't sacrifice themselves to save someone else. Truly cowardly and selfish Isolde would have long ago gotten the posessed kid killed, the poisoned husband dumped in the lake (with all honours of course) and officially hooked up with Teagan. Instead she's trying actively to protect and save these important to her.

Think the only complaint i could make about her is, she doesn't care about the fate of peasants. But that's pretty much par for the course in that setting.


She'll tell you that she doesn't want to face Eamon with their son being dead. Maybe to her, she thinks that sacrificing herself would be better than her husband potentially hating her or being forsaken by the Maker for allowing her son to die because of a demon. She kept the possessed child around so that it wouldn't kill her. Why didn't she ask Jowan if anything could be done? He knew that Connor was possessed. It's only after your character tells her that she believes. And she didn't have to sacrifice herself, I'm sure there are plenty of guards who would have given their life for their arldom. I'm sure Ser Perth would have at the very least.

Why would she dump her husband in the lake? If they knew he was dead, rather than just comatose, she would have to go back to Orlais. And no one has said that she didn't hook up with Teagan.

There is nothing to convince me that she is not a selfish, stupid bimbo who lucked into marrying a Ferelden noble who loved her. And never does she seem regretful about the lives that were lost because of her stupidity.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

I must confess, I have yet to kill Isolde. I've killed Connor once, but not for keeps. I just cannot bring any character to do those things. :x

My blood mage did, and it was a kick butt cutscene. Killing Connor will probably be impossible for me.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!


Cammen.

Edit: And the sarcastic storyteller.

Good point!

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tmp7704 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Isolde is just stupid. Not only does she allow a apostate into her home (which she didn't know, I'll give her that)

As opposed to the PC who knowingly travels with one.
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edit: relevant ToP Alistair is relevant



Yeah, but the Warden doesn't care about that. Miss "I will not lose my son to magic" should care.

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Heh, I'll use the whole "caught Cammen doing to ball slap dance" thing. Problem solved.

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cmessaz wrote...

Heh, I'll use the whole "caught Cammen doing to ball slap dance" thing. Problem solved.


The horror D:

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Addai67 wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What swords is she wearing?

Those are Forgotten daggers, but with tmp's Rescaled Swords and Daggers mod, it actually makes them look bigger.  I believe he said it's because they're made on a qunari model.  But I happily let my mage look so badass as to be a dual-sword wielder, especially now that she's channeling Duncan.  Edit:  And since Ali was a dual-longsword wielder in her game, you know where she learned how to use 'em.  Posted Image

DW Ali FTW

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Yes...  I like Duncan's armor on her..
I didn't realize it was for both genders..  now all I need is the mod that takes away restrictions.
I've actually been playing so waaaay behind on the forum...  but have some nice pics to upload later...
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Kryyptehk wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Isolde is just stupid. Not only does she allow a apostate into her home (which she didn't know, I'll give her that)

As opposed to the PC who knowingly travels with one.
Say hello, Morrigan Posted Image

edit: relevant ToP Alistair is relevant



Yeah, but the Warden doesn't care about that. Miss "I will not lose my son to magic" should care.

It still seems a bit wrong to blame the victim here.  Yeah it wasn't the smartest move, but Jowan is still the one who took advantage of her desperation.  Her intentions were good natured, things just blew up in her face... badly.

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As a mage I hate Isolde, because of her whole "oh no my son has magic" bs. So I had no problem killing her.

The rest of my characters despise her voice, but spare her.

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cmessaz wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!


Cammen.

Edit: And the sarcastic storyteller.

Good point!

Once you find out what Zathrian did, you could see his clan as too great a threat to the surrounding human populace to let it pass.  They are spreading werewolf sickness just like the Blight is spreading Blight sickness.  It's sort of hard to justify slaughtering the whole camp for Zathrian's malice, though.  They're pretty much in the dark.  You do find out that Lanaya suspected all along that he was involved with the werewolf curse, but only afterwards.  Also, technically it's the werewolves who are spreading the sickness.  I think your PC just has to be the bloodthirsty type.

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#29520
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Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I need to find the courage to side with the werewolves. Someone provide me with a good RP reason!


Cammen.

Edit: And the sarcastic storyteller.

Good point!

Once you find out what Zathrian did, you could see his clan as too great a threat to the surrounding human populace to let it pass.  They are spreading werewolf sickness just like the Blight is spreading Blight sickness.  It's sort of hard to justify slaughtering the whole camp for Zathrian's malice, though.  They're pretty much in the dark.  You do find out that Lanaya suspected all along that he was involved with the werewolf curse, but only afterwards.  I think your PC just has to be the bloodthirsty type.

Yeah, I think that too. I don't think any of my other PCs will be able to do this, so I think this blood mage is my last option. But she is not bloodthirsty, so I am finding it hard to justify.

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Addai67 wrote...

Once you find out what Zathrian did, you could see his clan as too great a threat to the surrounding human populace to let it pass.  They are spreading werewolf sickness just like the Blight is spreading Blight sickness.  It's sort of hard to justify slaughtering the whole camp for Zathrian's malice, though. 

Not really.  Just ask yourself "what would Alistair do?"

#29522
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*sighs* DAMN you Cammen.

#29523
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cmessaz wrote...

As a mage I hate Isolde, because of her whole "oh no my son has magic" bs. So I had no problem killing her.
The rest of my characters despise her voice, but spare her.


Yeah, she doesn't want to send her son away only to see him at sporadic occasions. Her son having magic is pretty devastating.

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Yes...  I like Duncan's armor on her..
I didn't realize it was for both genders..  now all I need is the mod that takes away restrictions.
I've actually been playing so waaaay behind on the forum...  but have some nice pics to upload later...
I've also been cleaning out my Fraps...  OMG  Posted Image

The female Duncan's armor is a new mod on tmp's page.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

As a mage I hate Isolde, because of her whole "oh no my son has magic" bs. So I had no problem killing her.
The rest of my characters despise her voice, but spare her.


Yeah, she doesn't want to send her son away only to see him at sporadic occasions. Her son having magic is pretty devastating.

No I see it as she thinks it is evil to have magic. Her son being taken is not the only problem, at least thats what I understand.


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Modifié par cmessaz, 25 mai 2010 - 08:18 .