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errant_knight wrote...

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The only time I had the apology option come up was after "why did you keep your birthright a secret" and choosing "I did like you, now I don't know who you are" or something like that.

I might have to do this.  New dialogue options, yay!  As hard as it is to provoke Alistair sadface, if you have a PC where it works it makes things more interesting sometimes.  Same with Zevran.


Since I discovered the "I do like you, and not for your blood' option in this conversation, that's always the one I go for. To me, it's the most natural an satisfying of the romance starter lines--with 'did anyone ever tell you how handsome you are' being the least so. ;)


Too bad that vanishes after the romance triggers.

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Addai67 wrote...

Well, you do bring up another of her inherent weaknesses as a ruler (lack of military prowess is how Loghain was able to steamroll her).


That depends on how you define a good ruler. Military prowess, while very helpful, is not necessary for a ruler to be good at the job. Furthermore, Alistair is not the one leading the army, he appoints the Warden PC as commander.


At that point she has no power, and she should realize it.  The only reason for her to try to undermine the new ruler at that point is selfish pique or self-preservation.  And I do grant you that she thinks she'll be executed.  Though when Eamon offers her a chance to swear fealty, that is more mercy than she and Loghain offer if the tables are turned.


She stil believes she should be the rightful Queen, but yes it was not the pragmatic thing for her to do. She had no say in ther matter and no cards to play.

Which ultimately goes down to how restrictive the landsmeet is, writign wise. Alistair cannot be brought to see sense. Anora doesn't realise she has no power. It's just a way to get rid of characters that are no longer integral to the story.

Had I been in Anora's position, I would have tried to get my father's land, Gwaren as my Ternir at the very least, in exchange for fealty. But I would never marry my father's killer and as you all know I am very pragmatic (I could swaer fealty to him however). There are just lines one cannot cross.

Anora did not react well, that is true. But I still do nto believe she betrayed her nation, unlike Alsitair.

I'll point out that you're speculating that she doesn't actually know and is lying about that fact.


Because no one should know about that. And I do not believe Duncan would tell Cailan about any details.

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cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

The only time I had the apology option come up was after "why did you keep your birthright a secret" and choosing "I did like you, now I don't know who you are" or something like that.

I might have to do this.  New dialogue options, yay!  As hard as it is to provoke Alistair sadface, if you have a PC where it works it makes things more interesting sometimes.  Same with Zevran.

Oh god I dumped Zev with my mage, and it was so very sad. I NEVER want to do it again.


Starting to see the romantic appeal are we?<3

No thats why I dumped him lol.Posted Image It just doesn't appeal to me like Alistair's. It does have a better ending though.


Awwww...poor Zev, the only romnce that actively TRIES to pick up your spirits (I just realized this today looking at this on DevArt), and will love you, and stay with you the most unconditionally without any persuasion needed.

While I love Alistair's romance on my girls, sometimes his conditions just can't be met. My blood mage for example, my Brosca as well. I still need to do a cousland that marries him politically but loves Zev, but I just can't seem to do human+zev.

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Soooo, where is the CE's daddy when Vaughn takes her? I don't see him at all.


hes up on the platform too standing not far from Shianni

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Alistair pleads for more pictures.



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(He still wants a kitten too.)

#30206
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SOunds like yall have a had a very interesting day on the boards. Thats what I get for letting dental appointment and nap time interfere with my board lurking *sigh* such is life...

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Lady Jess- I did a Cousland that was supposed to marry Alistair politically. I romanced him then dumped him and moved on to Zev. I got 2 treaties in and gave her up, I can't do the human felmale+male elf thing either.



Syl-Oh! I didn't see him.

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Actually, it was a comment about a breakup with Zevran after he falls in love.  It's brutal.  If he leaves, he calls the warden "My Love," just before he goes, and he's so sweet and so sad.  Ugh, no, I can deal with Alistair breakups.  The Zevran ones, especially after he falls in love, no.

I think the equivalent here is the exile  breakup.  Zevran does ok with a breakup (not that it's still not incredibly sad!) if he and the PC are willing to remain friends and the PC lives.  I mean, at least then he doesn't go back to the Crows, which is the worst.  Likewise, Alistair seems to get by if he has his Grey Warden or king duty and the PC lives.  But if Loghain comes between them or he's still in love and the PC dies, he never picks up the pieces.

Edit: I would have written all of that, but it would be horribly off topic here :whistle:

Anders, Nathaniel, and Zevran get some time here!  Hell, cats get tons of time.  LOL

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Ha! Duncan is great when you tell Cailen about killing Vaughn. Glorious!

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AnniLau wrote...

Alistair pleads for more pictures.

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(He still wants a kitten too.)


^  This shot is a reminder that sometimes Alistair should NOT get what he is asking for.  LOL

OTOH, the swooping kiss is a reminder that often he should:  Posted Image

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Modifié par Addai67, 26 mai 2010 - 08:40 .


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AnniLau wrote...

Alistair pleads for more pictures.

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(He still wants a kitten too.)


And I want Morrigan Posted Image

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cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess- I did a Cousland that was supposed to marry Alistair politically. I romanced him then dumped him and moved on to Zev. I got 2 treaties in and gave her up, I can't do the human felmale+male elf thing either.

Syl-Oh! I didn't see him.


I love the CEF origin and find them the most badassery of the origin stories.  Almost singlehandedly create a swath of death and destuction to rescue your cousin and friends from a psycho rapist  *shakes head* GLORIOUS!! 
Getting up in Duncan's beard and defying it, telling him you will kick his ass.  Telling Cailan you killed a nobleman because he raped your friend....

GOOD TIMES!!!Posted Image

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cmessaz wrote...

Not to change the subject, but how old do you guys place the CEF?

15-16 (which is a more modern 17-18 adjusted for the whole growing up faster thing) Quite obscenely young, but helps to explain all the inevitable blunders that tend to happen during the first playthrough when you don't quite yet know how the world works Posted Image

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sylvanaerie wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess- I did a Cousland that was supposed to marry Alistair politically. I romanced him then dumped him and moved on to Zev. I got 2 treaties in and gave her up, I can't do the human felmale+male elf thing either.

Syl-Oh! I didn't see him.


I love the CEF origin and find them the most badassery of the origin stories.  Almost singlehandedly create a swath of death and destuction to rescue your cousin and friends from a psycho rapist  *shakes head* GLORIOUS!! 
Getting up in Duncan's beard and defying it, telling him you will kick his ass.  Telling Cailan you killed a nobleman because he raped your friend....

GOOD TIMES!!!Posted Image


I really enjoyed that Origin when I played it. It and the Dwarf Commoner are my top two favorites.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Alistair pleads for more pictures.

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(He still wants a kitten too.)


And I want Morrigan Posted Image


SInce she is modded in my game, this is the only pic I have of Morrigan where she looks similar to herself in game.   SOrry KoP

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tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Not to change the subject, but how old do you guys place the CEF?

15-16 (which is a more modern 17-18 adjusted for the whole growing up faster thing) Quite obscenely young, but helps to explain all the inevitable blunders that tend to happen during the first playthrough when you don't quite yet know how the world works Posted Image

I have only been a CE once, and that was months ago on the PS3. I loved meeting Cailen! Yes I agree that she would be very young, I don't know if I could go with 15, but 16 or 17 perhaps.

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tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Not to change the subject, but how old do you guys place the CEF?

15-16 (which is a more modern 17-18 adjusted for the whole growing up faster thing) Quite obscenely young, but helps to explain all the inevitable blunders that tend to happen during the first playthrough when you don't quite yet know how the world works Posted Image

Oh Maker, this was my 1st character.  A CEF and a total disaster in every way possible.  It's a wonder Ferelden didn't end up a smoking ruin.  It was really hard, too, as we were playing on an unpatched PC version in addition to my stupidity.

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A Morrigan for KoP, especially since she proves that his taste in women is only hopeless where Anora is concerned.  Posted Image

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sylvanaerie wrote...

SInce she is modded in my game, this is the only pic I have of Morrigan where she looks similar to herself in game.   SOrry KoP

Posted Image


don't be, I really like the drawing!
You managed to capture the magic of her eyes I think.

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Addai67 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Not to change the subject, but how old do you guys place the CEF?

15-16 (which is a more modern 17-18 adjusted for the whole growing up faster thing) Quite obscenely young, but helps to explain all the inevitable blunders that tend to happen during the first playthrough when you don't quite yet know how the world works Posted Image

Oh Maker, this was my 1st character.  A CEF and a total disaster in every way possible.  It's a wonder Ferelden didn't end up a smoking ruin.  It was really hard, too, as we were playing on an unpatched PC version in addition to my stupidity.


Mine was a HNF Warrior, I made SO many stupid mistakes in that game...I did the Circle and Redcliffe, had triggered both Alistair AND Zevran romances and did a lot of stupid things.  I finally deleted her after the second treaty.  My Elf Mage following her was much better.

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A Morrigan for KoP, especially since she proves that his taste in women is only hopeless where Anora is concerned.  Posted Image

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Haha, Anora has nothing on Morrigan. Posted Image
Beautiful.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

SInce she is modded in my game, this is the only pic I have of Morrigan where she looks similar to herself in game.   SOrry KoP

Posted Image


don't be, I really like the drawing!
You managed to capture the magic of her eyes I think.


Oh Okay!  COOL!  Thanks!

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

A Morrigan for KoP, especially since she proves that his taste in women is only hopeless where Anora is concerned.  Posted Image

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Haha, Anora has nothing on Morrigan. Posted Image
Beautiful.


LOL she is gorgeous!  I likes da swamp witch.  Is this in the Temple of Andraste?  At the point you are discussing the disposition of the ashes.

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Addai67 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Not to change the subject, but how old do you guys place the CEF?

15-16 (which is a more modern 17-18 adjusted for the whole growing up faster thing) Quite obscenely young, but helps to explain all the inevitable blunders that tend to happen during the first playthrough when you don't quite yet know how the world works Posted Image

Oh Maker, this was my 1st character.  A CEF and a total disaster in every way possible.  It's a wonder Ferelden didn't end up a smoking ruin.

Sounds quite like my own experience Posted Image  i like it though, it makes the character come to life and CE is really suited for this kind of naivete, i think. In contrast my HN could be quite more world-savvy even if just few years older. And now my mage can be a full-blown manipulative ****, just as intended Posted Image