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cmessaz wrote...

I'm going to start an elven mage, not make Alistair king and just pretend awakening doesn't exist. That is my next venture I think. It is because of all the elf/Alistair fan art I'm being subjected to.
Anyone else notice that the kiss with a human and alistair is longer? Or is that my imagination?


Sounds like a great idea.

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Bratt1204 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I'm going to start an elven mage, not make Alistair king and just pretend awakening doesn't exist. That is my next venture I think. It is because of all the elf/Alistair fan art I'm being subjected to.
Anyone else notice that the kiss with a human and alistair is longer? Or is that my imagination?


Sounds like a great idea.

And she is going to be SERIOUSLY overpowered. FUN!

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Because that is not his nature.  He is very much the archtype of a knight, all duty and nobility and honor.  When it was just him, he could afford to think about himself.  When you make him king, that's not an option for him, not the way he sees it.  I wouldn't change that about him.  Isn't that why we love him?

He still does his duty despite his qualms (either about a mistress or about the baby problem), he just reserves some personal happiness in the midst of it. 

The way I see it, he doesn't suggest it because it doesn't occur to him that this is how he can live his life.  When your PC suggests it, it's like a light goes on.  "You mean I can do that?"  I for one am very happy to say "yes, you can do that."  And because he also doesn't think he deserves happiness (he is fully expecting to lose you), I think it goes a long way for him to hear your PC say "and yes, I want to do that."


This is what I think, too. And I love seeing him go from Posted Image to Posted Image within one line.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Because that is not his nature.  He is very much the archtype of a knight, all duty and nobility and honor.  When it was just him, he could afford to think about himself.  When you make him king, that's not an option for him, not the way he sees it.  I wouldn't change that about him.  Isn't that why we love him?

He still does his duty despite his qualms (either about a mistress or about the baby problem), he just reserves some personal happiness in the midst of it. 

The way I see it, he doesn't suggest it because it doesn't occur to him that this is how he can live his life.  When your PC suggests it, it's like a light goes on.  "You mean I can do that?"  I for one am very happy to say "yes, you can do that."  And because he also doesn't think he deserves happiness, I think it goes a long way for him to hear your PC say "and yes, I want to do that."


I guess, I'm a borderline Ali fan. :alien:

I like his kingly taking-charge side and I'm dying a little inside when someone reminds me that it is his very nature to be a doormat. I know, he's insecure and not used to doing what pleases him but I often blame things on metagaming issues rather than his personality.

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Ha I know the feeling about the massive armors being too bulky. The only massive armors I use on my PC are the Warden armors. I just toss the massive arcane warrior stuff on Anders if I'm using it at the time lol. There's a modder on nexus that is working on a stock armor replacer, imo it looks really good so far with the heavy and massive armors.

Heavy:
http://dragonagenexu...-1270774473.jpg

Massive:
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He's also doing light armor and "maybe" robes but I don't think there are any previews up yet.


*shudders*  To me, that looks so awful.  :/  But hey, *I* don't have to get the mod, so it's all good.  ^_^

Hmm... Yeah, I have to agree with Lady on this one. :/ I'm fine with how the armor on DA looks as it is though they could really use some more variety. I guess this is a mod for those who want to flaunt their curves no matter what they're wearing. xD

Oh, and I've read the first few chapters of Second Chance after getting some sleep in last night earlier today. Nice work, I have to say. o3o


I mean, it's a mod, so if it floats your boat, go for it.  I just don't understand.  The practical part of my brain can't let go how bad of an idea it is.  XD



Good morning ladies :)


I like the first armor.  For me it's not really about flaunting the curves, it's more like the distinction between male and female armor.  That's why I don't really care for heavy or massive armor.  In fact I never wear it because it's so bulky and unshapely.  Heck in all the game's I've played I always ended up wearing 1 armor set and it's Wade's medium drakonskin armor or the drakeskin armor until I found that blue set my last two playthroughs.  I know it doesn't matter because I'm covered in blood and gore most of the time but I still like to wear something that distinguishes me from a male lol.  Hair and make-up only go so far and usually my make-up's pretty light.
What's funny is I actually found some massive armour last night that I love but if you saw it you'd probably call me a hiprocrit because it is really sexy.  (And omg I just realized I'm sounding like a prissy girly girl, Posted Imageand that I'm not lmao)  Ends topic.



I keep my PCs in medium armor almost always - show off their cleavage better (Alistair prefers it this way:D). I only switch out to heavier armor if going into a particularly heavy battle.

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Addai67 wrote...

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Because that is not his nature.  He is very much the archtype of a knight, all duty and nobility and honor.  When it was just him, he could afford to think about himself.  When you make him king, that's not an option for him, not the way he sees it.  I wouldn't change that about him.  Isn't that why we love him?

He still does his duty despite his qualms (either about a mistress or about the baby problem), he just reserves some personal happiness in the midst of it. 

The way I see it, he doesn't suggest it because it doesn't occur to him that this is how he can live his life.  When your PC suggests it, it's like a light goes on.  "You mean I can do that?"  I for one am very happy to say "yes, you can do that."  And because he also doesn't think he deserves happiness (he is fully expecting to lose you), I think it goes a long way for him to hear your PC say "and yes, I want to do that."


Yes.  I'm just saying this is why he comes to you to break up.  Like I've said, if you just accept it, it's simply another time in his life where what he wants doesn't matter.  Everyone has always not cared about what he wants and just given up on him or sent him away.  When you say 'You deserve to be happy too, goddamnit,' he suddenly has someone putting his happiness and what he wants first.  You're the first person to ever fight for him and it's an eye opener for him.

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Yup, same thing.  I can't ever make him not king.  Alistair agrees:
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Lmao that face.  Yes hardened's he's very very dead set on being King, he's finally learned to stand up for himself and take what's rightfully his.


You go Alistair lol.

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Lol, damn. Threw him to Anora, threw him to Morrigan.... my character on the side. This is turning into a harem anime or something.

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I guess, I'm a borderline Ali fan. :alien:

I like his kingly taking-charge side and I'm dying a little inside when someone reminds me that it is his very nature to be a doormat. I know, he's insecure and not used to doing what pleases him but I often blame things on metagaming issues rather than his personality.


Perhaps I phrased it poorly.  I did not mean to imply that he is a doormat.  There is a difference between knowing, understanding and doing your duty and just letting people walk all over you.  The problem is that no one has ever shown him you can do your duty AND be happy.  For him, doing his duty has always been an awful thing, but he still does it.  Look at it a strength and not a weakness.  How many people could be asked to give up the only happiness they've ever known and they would do it because it's the right thing to do?

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Ok my 2 cents: Everyone is always all "duty" and stuff with Alistair and the mistress thing. Look at Anora. She doesn't remarry because of her dead daddy. Alistair is willing to marry even though he is in love with someone else. It just sucks that there is no "despite many suiters, Alistair continued to rebuff the landsmeets calls to remarry, some thought the hero was involved" or some such. Dang my inability to convey whats on my mind. Does anyone get what I mean here?

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cmessaz wrote...

Ok my 2 cents: Everyone is always all "duty" and stuff with Alistair and the mistress thing. Look at Anora. She doesn't remarry because of her dead daddy. Alistair is willing to marry even though he is in love with someone else. It just sucks that there is no "despite many suiters, Alistair continued to rebuff the landsmeets calls to remarry, some thought the hero was involved" or some such. Dang my inability to convey whats on my mind. Does anyone get what I mean here?


So Anora fails at doing her duty, basically.  Or she thinks her duty is different, and it kind of is.  For Alistair, it's about blood as well.  The very reason he is king, despite how good he will be at it if he's hardened, is because of his blood.  That's not to say it is wrong, but there is a huge difference in what Alistair thinks he owes Ferelden and its people.

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cmessaz wrote...

Ok my 2 cents: Everyone is always all "duty" and stuff with Alistair and the mistress thing. Look at Anora. She doesn't remarry because of her dead daddy. Alistair is willing to marry even though he is in love with someone else. It just sucks that there is no "despite many suiters, Alistair continued to rebuff the landsmeets calls to remarry, some thought the hero was involved" or some such. Dang my inability to convey whats on my mind. Does anyone get what I mean here?

I hear you, but to me this demonstrates that- contra to what the Alistair-haters say- Anora is the more dysfunctional as a person and a ruler.  I don't want Alistair to be dysfunctional, even if it means my PC shares him.  The opposite side of that is that I don't want him to be Maric as he was late in his life, doing his duty but sad and alone.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Ok my 2 cents: Everyone is always all "duty" and stuff with Alistair and the mistress thing. Look at Anora. She doesn't remarry because of her dead daddy. Alistair is willing to marry even though he is in love with someone else. It just sucks that there is no "despite many suiters, Alistair continued to rebuff the landsmeets calls to remarry, some thought the hero was involved" or some such. Dang my inability to convey whats on my mind. Does anyone get what I mean here?


So Anora fails at doing her duty, basically.  Or she thinks her duty is different, and it kind of is.  For Alistair, it's about blood as well.  The very reason he is king, despite how good he will be at it if he's hardened, is because of his blood.  That's not to say it is wrong, but there is a huge difference in what Alistair thinks he owes Ferelden and its people.

Brings me to this: Anora is not an option. This says something about her. My point I guess is that the mistress ending, while he says sweet things, is not appealing to me. I know that I would not be able to be at court with queen nearby knowing that I'm bonin her husband. Akward! And I just would rather end the relationship than be his side dish. That is just the way I think. In the movie, Elizabeth, she says this to that one dude (my memory issues again): "You love me so much you'd have me be your wh**e?" That is what I think.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

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I guess, I'm a borderline Ali fan. :alien:

I like his kingly taking-charge side and I'm dying a little inside when someone reminds me that it is his very nature to be a doormat. I know, he's insecure and not used to doing what pleases him but I often blame things on metagaming issues rather than his personality.


Perhaps I phrased it poorly.  I did not mean to imply that he is a doormat.  There is a difference between knowing, understanding and doing your duty and just letting people walk all over you.  The problem is that no one has ever shown him you can do your duty AND be happy.  For him, doing his duty has always been an awful thing, but he still does it.  Look at it a strength and not a weakness.  How many people could be asked to give up the only happiness they've ever known and they would do it because it's the right thing to do?

It's actually a good way to look at it. It's nice to get a new perspective on things. Look at it as a strength not as a weakness, a very good advice. My husband will be very grateful someone made me listen to reason. :blush:

I used to hate the dialogue but I went all "Awwww!" when I saw :( --> :).

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klarabella wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I guess, I'm a borderline Ali fan. :alien:

I like his kingly taking-charge side and I'm dying a little inside when someone reminds me that it is his very nature to be a doormat. I know, he's insecure and not used to doing what pleases him but I often blame things on metagaming issues rather than his personality.


Perhaps I phrased it poorly.  I did not mean to imply that he is a doormat.  There is a difference between knowing, understanding and doing your duty and just letting people walk all over you.  The problem is that no one has ever shown him you can do your duty AND be happy.  For him, doing his duty has always been an awful thing, but he still does it.  Look at it a strength and not a weakness.  How many people could be asked to give up the only happiness they've ever known and they would do it because it's the right thing to do?

It's actually a good way to look at it. It's nice to get a new perspective on things. Look at it as a strength not as a weakness, a very good advice. My husband will be very grateful someone made me listen to reason. :blush:

I used to hate the dialogue but I went all "Awwww!" when I saw :( --> :).


This is why I say my characters are more selfish than Alistair, b/c they are not willing to give him up, even if the consequences might be terrible, i.e. Dark Ritual.  My mages don't mind being on the side, since they never thought they could get married anyway.  For them, they will take what happiness they can get.

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I agree with Lady! Down with the curtain hair! I want to see when I decapitate a genlock! Especially the emissary variety. Little magic weilding squirmy bastards.



Speaking of decapitation's I got something for you cmessaz.



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It's not with S&S but DW.  I actually like him as DW.  It seems like he's more agressive and it doesn't take him very long to plow through a group like it does when he's S&S.  To me anyways.


Nice!

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Um can we say your timing sucks Alistair lmao.  Goof decides to run in just as I'm in the middle of beheading


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I need a good elven mage name. Come on people help me out here! I'm out of ideas.


I just look up Celtic names on Google.

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klarabella wrote...
It's actually a good way to look at it. It's nice to get a new perspective on things. Look at it as a strength not as a weakness, a very good advice. My husband will be very grateful someone made me listen to reason. :blush:

I used to hate the dialogue but I went all "Awwww!" when I saw :( --> :).


If you ever need a different way to look at someaspect of event or dialogue, lemme know.  I will be more than happy to give you a perfect rp explanation of why.  ;)  Well, within reason.  There's some stuff that simply has no explanation.

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Bratt1204 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I need a good elven mage name. Come on people help me out here! I'm out of ideas.


I just look up Celtic names on Google.


If you need names...  I use it for my fanfic alot.  I like choosing names that reflect the character.

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Brings me to this: Anora is not an option. This says something about her. My point I guess is that the mistress ending, while he says sweet things, is not appealing to me. I know that I would not be able to be at court with queen nearby knowing that I'm bonin her husband. Akward! And I just would rather end the relationship than be his side dish. That is just the way I think. In the movie, Elizabeth, she says this to that one dude (my memory issues again): "You love me so much you'd have me be your ****?" That is what I think.

I can understand this, but this is how I see it:  She's screwing my PC's husband.  At least, she's doing that in the limtied time frame where they are trying to have an heir.

In everything but the formal, my PC is his wife, and it's only racism and the political reality that forces them to bow to the formality.  The queen is the figurehead.  She gets to have power, my PC gets to have the man.  That is why I see Anora serving this role as preferable to Bimbo Bannorn- with Anora, you know she is a) experienced in how it works, and B) power-hungry enough that this is actually giving her what she most wants.  In this society, everyone knows how this game is played.

As for it being degrading, yes it is, but as an elf, you live degradation in Ferelden one way or another.  As chancellor-mistress, you get the last laugh.

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lol I can't ever bring myself to not use a naked mod... the MANkinis are just too much for me. 

What's up with the triangles on the females bras and dresses?  It's like some secret on/off switch.

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cmessaz wrote...
Brings me to this: Anora is not an option. This says something about her. My point I guess is that the mistress ending, while he says sweet things, is not appealing to me. I know that I would not be able to be at court with queen nearby knowing that I'm bonin her husband. Akward! And I just would rather end the relationship than be his side dish. That is just the way I think. In the movie, Elizabeth, she says this to that one dude (my memory issues again): "You love me so much you'd have me be your ****?" That is what I think.

I can understand this, but this is how I see it:  She's screwing my PC's husband.  At least, she's doing that in the limtied time frame where they are trying to have an heir.

In everything but the formal, my PC is his wife, and it's only racism and the political reality that forces them to bow to the formality.  The queen is the figurehead.  She gets to have power, my PC gets to have the man.  That is why I see Anora serving this role as preferable to Bimbo Bannorn- with Anora, you know she is a) experienced in how it works, and B) power-hungry enough that this is actually giving her what she most wants.  In this society, everyone knows how this game is played.

As for it being degrading, yes it is, but as an elf, you live degradation in Ferelden one way or another.  As chancellor-mistress, you get the last laugh.

And I am not going to bow down to this as an elf. Posted Image I have saved Ferelden. I am a hero. I am going to chase my glory, and not hang around at court and cheat with Alistair. I love him, but I have developed a pride that I have never experienced, and will not degrade myself. I played through as a mistress one time to see what happens, and will never do it again. I know it is very old fasioned of me, but I won't share the man I love. I'd rather be hurt and move on, than face the daily pain of wondering what the man I love is doing right now with his wife.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

This is why I say my characters are more selfish than Alistair, b/c they are not willing to give him up, even if the consequences might be terrible, i.e. Dark Ritual.  My mages don't mind being on the side, since they never thought they could get married anyway.  For them, they will take what happiness they can get.




My character's think like that almost along the same lines.  That's why I've never ever been able to do the mistress thing.  They aren't willing to give him up especially not after losing their family and everything that pc and Alistair have been through.  She's so hell bent on not losing him but she's definitely not going to share him.  It's bad enough that she's got to let Morrigan get her hands on him, tg that's a 1 time thing, my pc's definitely not going to allow someone else to have him.  Even if there was a promise that he'd never touch Anora there's just no way my pc would be able to do it.  She's too possesive and she loves Alistair too much too see him going from her to another woman and back.  Screw that lol.  She'd rather sacrifice herself then see Alistair married to someone else besides herself.

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In everything but the formal, my PC is his wife, and it's only racism and the political reality that forces them to bow to the formality.  The queen is the figurehead.  She gets to have power, my PC gets to have the man.  That is why I see Anora serving this role as preferable to Bimbo Bannorn- with Anora, you know she is a) experienced in how it works, and B) power-hungry enough that this is actually giving her what she most wants.  In this society, everyone knows how this game is played.

As for it being degrading, yes it is, but as an elf, you live degradation in Ferelden one way or another.  As chancellor-mistress, you get the last laugh.


I really like this:  Post coronation, with Alistair marrying Anora:

AL:  "At any rate, I can't wait to be alone with you.  These formal affairs drive me insane."
PC:  "And what about Anora?"
AL:  "Let her get her own conquering hero.  I have mine."
VO:  (affectionate nuzzle)

^d'awww!

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