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[Bratt1204]

 

[Bratt1204]

Bratt1204 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Since there seems to be a high level of disturbing happening, what better time than now to post the only quasi-decent Alistair decap screenshot that I have managed to take:

Awesome.

I need to make me a DW Alistair next playthough.

[LadyDamodred]

klarabella wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...
OMG - I could not finish reading it.

Yeah, I can understand not finishing it, though there are a couple of lines near the end that have a beautiful turn of phrase.  Everyone who can't bring themselves to execute Alistair should read that and realize that the game ending for him is not nearly so bad by comparison.

No heirs, breaking up, marrying him to Anora, exile him - that's all fluff heaven compared to that.

Holy god, marrying him to Anora is like the greatest, happiest present EVAR after that.

>.>
<.<

*rereads*

[mellifera]

Well, that ending was.... yeah. Let's not do that again.



The slide is fine, cmessaz. Alistair stays with his love, Anora is uncomfortable, he gets called off to Weisshaupt vowing to return.



It just.... that slide doesn't mesh well IMO. The previous slides talk about Alistair and Anora being totally liek awesome possum monarchs and everyone loving them and they go galavanting around their kingdom. The PC just stays on as chancellor even though her role eventually becomes basically useless. PC is still influential and people love her blah blah. I dunno, the Weisshaupt one just doesn't fit in well here.



Then again, I'm not a fan of the Weisshaupt slide in general. It seems strange and I don't see why such specific situation is presented and then not given a conclusion. Maybe if it said 'he returned' rather than 'he swore he would return.' I'm not saying I dislike the situation in itself, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an epilogue slide? I dunno.

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

Well, that ending was.... yeah. Let's not do that again.

The slide is fine, cmessaz. Alistair stays with his love, Anora is uncomfortable, he gets called off to Weisshaupt vowing to return.

It just.... that slide doesn't mesh well IMO. The previous slides talk about Alistair and Anora being totally liek awesome possum monarchs and everyone loving them and they go galavanting around their kingdom. The PC just stays on as chancellor even though her role eventually becomes basically useless. PC is still influential and people love her blah blah. I dunno, the Weisshaupt one just doesn't fit in well here.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the Weisshaupt slide in general. It seems strange and I don't see why such specific situation is presented and then not given a conclusion. Maybe if it said 'he returned' rather than 'he swore he would return.' I'm not saying I dislike the situation in itself, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an epilogue slide? I dunno.

That is the slide I left alone. I sort of agree, but I find either way a bit off. The marriage to pc one is similar, but without the Anora part. I just don't feel like he is going to be sent away to Weisshaupt. That is a long a** way from Ferelden, and as king it just isn't going to happen in my eyes.

Modifié par cmessaz, 15 avril 2010 - 10:57 .

[mellifera]

Yup, I saw the PC marriage one too. That slide is just weird. I feel like the other epilogue slides are more fitting because they were more general.

I don't even have an issue with him going away for a bit and coming back, but it's just set up in a way that you don't really know what happened. He left and swore to come back. Did he come back? Did he disappear? Are the Grey Wardens actually evil villains in cahoots with the Archdemon and we were set up as puppets, leading them to kidnap him for whatever nefairous deeds? Haha, I dunno. It just doesn't give as much closure as the other slides to, IMO.

Modifié par yukidama, 15 avril 2010 - 11:00 .

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

Yup, I saw the PC marriage one too. That slide is just weird. I feel like the other epilogue slides are more fitting because they were more general.

I agree. I can change it, if you like. What do you have in mind? I'll keep both versions.

[cmessaz]

I am getting rather frustrated at my inability to make my elf mage look decent.

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Well, that ending was.... yeah. Let's not do that again.

The slide is fine, cmessaz. Alistair stays with his love, Anora is uncomfortable, he gets called off to Weisshaupt vowing to return.

It just.... that slide doesn't mesh well IMO. The previous slides talk about Alistair and Anora being totally liek awesome possum monarchs and everyone loving them and they go galavanting around their kingdom. The PC just stays on as chancellor even though her role eventually becomes basically useless. PC is still influential and people love her blah blah. I dunno, the Weisshaupt one just doesn't fit in well here.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the Weisshaupt slide in general. It seems strange and I don't see why such specific situation is presented and then not given a conclusion. Maybe if it said 'he returned' rather than 'he swore he would return.' I'm not saying I dislike the situation in itself, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an epilogue slide? I dunno.

That is the slide I left alone. I sort of agree, but I find either way a bit off. The marriage to pc one is similar, but without the Anora part. I just don't feel like he is going to be sent away to Weisshaupt. That is a long a** way from Ferelden, and as king it just isn't going to happen in my eyes.

But it's such an awesome hook for fanfic. 
And kings do travel.  I expect in his reign that Alistair will travel to a great many places, so why not Weisshaupt?

[nos_astra]

LadyDamodred wrote...
But it's such an awesome hook for fanfic. 
And kings do travel.  I expect in his reign that Alistair will travel to a great many places, so why not Weisshaupt?

Ha, one thing I noticed about King Alistair fanfics in general is that he seems to be glued to Denerim and the palace which is just plain stupid because medieval-ish, feudal Kings do travel, A LOT!

And I expect them to take their mistresses with them while Anora and Bimbo Bannorn stay at home, where they belong. ;-)

Modifié par klarabella, 15 avril 2010 - 11:03 .

[cmessaz]

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Well, that ending was.... yeah. Let's not do that again.

The slide is fine, cmessaz. Alistair stays with his love, Anora is uncomfortable, he gets called off to Weisshaupt vowing to return.

It just.... that slide doesn't mesh well IMO. The previous slides talk about Alistair and Anora being totally liek awesome possum monarchs and everyone loving them and they go galavanting around their kingdom. The PC just stays on as chancellor even though her role eventually becomes basically useless. PC is still influential and people love her blah blah. I dunno, the Weisshaupt one just doesn't fit in well here.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the Weisshaupt slide in general. It seems strange and I don't see why such specific situation is presented and then not given a conclusion. Maybe if it said 'he returned' rather than 'he swore he would return.' I'm not saying I dislike the situation in itself, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an epilogue slide? I dunno.

That is the slide I left alone. I sort of agree, but I find either way a bit off. The marriage to pc one is similar, but without the Anora part. I just don't feel like he is going to be sent away to Weisshaupt. That is a long a** way from Ferelden, and as king it just isn't going to happen in my eyes.

But it's such an awesome hook for fanfic. 
And kings do travel.  I expect in his reign that Alistair will travel to a great many places, so why not Weisshaupt?

I don't know, the travelling doesn't bother me. Him being called to Weisshaupt to serve the wardens bothers me. "He got called away to a far off fortress, but vowed to return to his love soon" is what I'm thinking. It's just more generic.

[Thor Rand Al]

klarabella wrote...Oh, and it's Friday here. CHAPTER DAY!

Edit: Top of the page picture added.

Snarky Alistair is snarky: Uh, I hope that urn is self-replenishing.

Likes

Um is it me or does he seem to be even more good looking with that expression lol. 

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...

I am getting rather frustrated at my inability to make my elf mage look decent.

This is like the ONLY good shot of my elf mage's face.  Geh.

[cmessaz]

I can keep both versions, so it would be cool. I think I prefer the wardenless one.

[Serissia]

I couldn't finish the fic. Poor, poor Alistair! I've never been able to actually go through with playing an evil character. Whenever I try to be an ass to Alistair he looks like a kicked puppy and I give up.

[errant_knight]

cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Well, that ending was.... yeah. Let's not do that again.

The slide is fine, cmessaz. Alistair stays with his love, Anora is uncomfortable, he gets called off to Weisshaupt vowing to return.

It just.... that slide doesn't mesh well IMO. The previous slides talk about Alistair and Anora being totally liek awesome possum monarchs and everyone loving them and they go galavanting around their kingdom. The PC just stays on as chancellor even though her role eventually becomes basically useless. PC is still influential and people love her blah blah. I dunno, the Weisshaupt one just doesn't fit in well here.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the Weisshaupt slide in general. It seems strange and I don't see why such specific situation is presented and then not given a conclusion. Maybe if it said 'he returned' rather than 'he swore he would return.' I'm not saying I dislike the situation in itself, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an epilogue slide? I dunno.

That is the slide I left alone. I sort of agree, but I find either way a bit off. The marriage to pc one is similar, but without the Anora part. I just don't feel like he is going to be sent away to Weisshaupt. That is a long a** way from Ferelden, and as king it just isn't going to happen in my eyes.

I can't help but feel that it's a hint that Weisshaupt is going to be trouble--for the PC, and for Alistair if he's alive.

[mellifera]

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

And it doesn't even seem like both the king and queen have to be in Denerim anyway. I can deal with Amaranthine while Alistair goes off to do... whatever he was doing. I don't see why we both wouldn't go to Weisshaupt. We're both Wardens and I'm the one who actually killed the Archdemon :innocent: I see the queen going before the Alistair.

Modifié par yukidama, 15 avril 2010 - 11:10 .

[LadyDamodred]

klarabella wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
But it's such an awesome hook for fanfic. 
And kings do travel.  I expect in his reign that Alistair will travel to a great many places, so why not Weisshaupt?

Ha, one thing I noticed about King Alistair fanfics in general is that he seems to be glued to Denerim and the palace which is just plain stupid because medieval-ish, feudal Kings do travel, A LOT!

And I expect them to take their mistresses with them while Anora and Bimbo Bannorn stay at home, where they belong. ;-)

Well, the reason for that is two-fold.  1)  Most fic takes place shortly after the Blight  Ferelden is kind of screwed up.  It would be highly irresponible for him to leave for the first few years.  2)  It is much easier to write in a setting you already know.  If he's gonna be traveling, you suddenly have to start thinking about and creating where hje's going to be going.  That can be tricky.

I would expect him to travel around Ferelden a lot, though.

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

Again, ff hook!  Both of which I took the bait on.    Though only the first one has come to pass so far.  *plays ominous music*

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 15 avril 2010 - 11:08 .

[Serissia]

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

I think it's a bug.  That it checks to see if you're in a royal marriage and automatically counts Alistair the same as Anora.  There's no reason for Anora to go with the HNM so, it does the same for Alistair for the HNF.  It's the only thing that would make sense since he runs off with his mistress if he's solo ruling.

[nos_astra]

So we can expect King Alistair to leave with his wife? ;-)

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

And it doesn't even seem like both the king and queen have to be in Denerim anyway. I can deal with Amaranthine while Alistair goes off to do... whatever he was doing. I don't see why we both wouldn't go to Weisshaupt. We're both Wardens and I'm the one who actually killed the Archdemon :innocent: I see the queen going before the Alistair.

I agree with you, actually. And looks like we had the same thoughts after awakening! I just think leaving his destination vaque would be more fitting.

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

klarabella wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
But it's such an awesome hook for fanfic. 
And kings do travel.  I expect in his reign that Alistair will travel to a great many places, so why not Weisshaupt?

Ha, one thing I noticed about King Alistair fanfics in general is that he seems to be glued to Denerim and the palace which is just plain stupid because medieval-ish, feudal Kings do travel, A LOT!

And I expect them to take their mistresses with them while Anora and Bimbo Bannorn stay at home, where they belong. ;-)

Well, the reason for that is two-fold.  1)  Most fic takes place shortly after the Blight  Ferelden is kind of screwed up.  It would be highly irresponible for him to leave for the first few years.  2)  It is much easier to write in a setting you already know.  If he's gonna be traveling, you suddenly have to start thinking about and creating where hje's going to be going.  That can be tricky.

I would expect him to travel around Ferelden a lot, though.

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

Again, ff hook!  Both of which I took the bait on.    Though only the first one has come to pass so far.  *plays ominous music*

I don't read fic so that's not really my thing I dunno, I just think if they're gonna talk about Weisshaupt and have Alistair go away and not explicitly state his fate, then either make that a significant point in the next game or go the more generic route and said he came back or died or something :x

[mellifera]

Serissia wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

I think it's a bug.  That it checks to see if you're in a royal marriage and automatically counts Alistair the same as Anora.  There's no reason for Anora to go with the HNM so, it does the same for Alistair for the HNF.  It's the only thing that would make sense since he runs off with his mistress if he's solo ruling.

That makes a lot of sense. Plus, I just can't see any scenario where the PC queen would run off by herself and Alistair would just shrug his shoulders and say "Lol, whatever."

[Merilsell]

Serissia wrote...

I couldn't finish the fic. Poor, poor Alistair! I've never been able to actually go through with playing an evil character. Whenever I try to be an ass to Alistair he looks like a kicked puppy and I give up.

Oh this. THIS.

It is like his magical weapon.

Ali: Well, how about a bit 'alonetime' in your tent? *waggles eyebrows*
PC: Love, it's been a hard day with killing and stuff. I'm tired and would rather sleep. Alone.
Ali: Oh. But we don't have to...you know *blushes*
PC: Still I rather would sleep alone.
Ali:
PC: *sigh* ...okay you can come. But keep your hands where I can see them.
Ali: Yes, my dear. *thinks* works every time

[cmessaz]

yukidama wrote...

Serissia wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, as I said my issue isn't that he's traveling because that makes sense. It's why such a specific instance was included in an epilogue without giving more closure.

I mean, even the hilarious "The queen disappeared from court but her adventures aren't over yet and the country isn't in a state of panic because one of their monarchs disappeared LOLLOL" slide in Awakening was epilogue appropriate IMO because while it didn't exactly tell you what happened it was fairly general. I dunno. I'm explaining myself poorly. It's just weird, I think.

I think it's a bug.  That it checks to see if you're in a royal marriage and automatically counts Alistair the same as Anora.  There's no reason for Anora to go with the HNM so, it does the same for Alistair for the HNF.  It's the only thing that would make sense since he runs off with his mistress if he's solo ruling.

That makes a lot of sense. Plus, I just can't see any scenario where the PC queen would run off by herself and Alistair would just shrug his shoulders and say "Lol, whatever."

What should the slide say, something like: Alistair stayed in Denerim with his love for a time, but was eventauly called to a far off fortress. He vowed to return to his love's side soon." (add the Anora line for the marriage to anora scenareo)