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LadyDamodred wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

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LadyDamodred wrote...

If people want to read it, here is the origin for cmessaz's terribly tragic elf mage.  It IS mature content, so you have been forewarned.  Please do not come yelling at me if you are offended or upset.

Edit:  And please no mocking me if you think it's terrible.  My terribly fragile ego would be crushed.


Is it Vaughan-worthy tragic? or something else entirely? (the mature rating?)


Ummm, worse?  *is unsure how to describe it*

I read it and left a review and it made me Posted Image. I swear, that man made Vaughan look like a model citizen.


I know, huh?  Thank you for the review.

Was it hard to write something so horrifying and depressing? I'm not sure I could do that.

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If my profile would ever update.....

Sarah- Her life is going to be a train wreck. No happiness here, I almost feel guilty.

So would this make her side with the Templars Lady D, though? And do you think she would betray Jowan to Irving?

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Even though it would be complicated, my biggest issue with DA2 not being a continuation is that it would really seem like a waste and loss of potential. Not even really about our characters but the storyline. There are a lot of loose threads hanging and if those aren't really tied up it will always feel incomplete to me :/ I guess we could always make up our own endings but I'd just want them to help it along, I dunno.

I just want more than a few sentences in a slideshow for the end, that's all.

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Yuki- that is what makes me undecided. Awakening sort of ruined continuation for me, so I hope they don't royally fubar things like that again.

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yukidama wrote...

Even though it would be complicated, my biggest issue with DA2 not being a continuation is that it would really seem like a waste and loss of potential. Not even really about our characters but the storyline. There are a lot of loose threads hanging and if those aren't really tied up it will always feel incomplete to me :/ I guess we could always make up our own endings but I'd just want them to help it along, I dunno.

A lot of things, though, seem like they are just stirring. If the Chantry declares an Exalted March against someone, if Morrigan's demon baby is canonized, if the mages rebel again, something being up with the GW in the Anderfels, whatever might be brewing in Orlais..these things would take time and might not occur within the PC's very limited lifespan.

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Sarah1281 wrote...
Was it hard to write something so horrifying and depressing? I'm not sure I could do that.


I suppose I should say yes, huh?  But not really.  Like I told cmess, her character started writing in my head.  That is what happened, so that's what I wrote.

I scare myself sometimes.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

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Was it hard to write something so horrifying and depressing? I'm not sure I could do that.


I suppose I should say yes, huh?  But not really.  Like I told cmess, her character started writing in my head.  That is what happened, so that's what I wrote.

I scare myself sometimes.

That's the best way to capture the essence of a character, I suppose. So I looked on your profile and you also wrote Selfish Hearts? I really liked that as well when I read it awhile back.

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cmessaz wrote...

If my profile would ever update.....

Sarah- Her life is going to be a train wreck. No happiness here, I almost feel guilty.

So would this make her side with the Templars Lady D, though? And do you think she would betray Jowan to Irving?


Yes, she would betray Jowan to Irving.  As for siding with mages or templars, it truly depends on when you go.  Early on in the game, templars.  Later in the game, maybe mages.  Alistair is not exactly enthusiatic about templar plan B.  Gaia could hold off on a decision and make it later, after meeting Cullen.

Sarah:  Yuppers.  Written during one of my 'I like Eamon' phases.  I go back and forth.

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*Is having a study break. Comes here and reads that Vaughan became a model citizen*

...ugh I must be dreaming. 2 AM and studying like a donkey might be giving me hallucinations.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Even though it would be complicated, my biggest issue with DA2 not being a continuation is that it would really seem like a waste and loss of potential. Not even really about our characters but the storyline. There are a lot of loose threads hanging and if those aren't really tied up it will always feel incomplete to me :/ I guess we could always make up our own endings but I'd just want them to help it along, I dunno.

A lot of things, though, seem like they are just stirring. If the Chantry declares an Exalted March against someone, if Morrigan's demon baby is canonized, if the mages rebel again, something being up with the GW in the Anderfels, whatever might be brewing in Orlais..these things would take time and might not occur within the PC's very limited lifespan.


Yeah, that's why I said that it's not even as much about continuing our characters but the storyline in general. I just think BW has repeatedly shot themselves in the foot by giving you so many choices but being unable to carry through with all the options they give you. I understand they have limitations, but they should consider the continuations before they release the first game so that they can make it mesh better. Otherwise I am fairly unimpressed with them making stories with characters we love and not concluding it properly. "But this isn't the last we'll hear of your character!11" does not a proper ending make, IMO.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

*Is having a study break. Comes here and reads that Vaughan became a model citizen*
...ugh I must be dreaming. 2 AM and studying like a donkey might be giving me hallucinations.


*grins*  This is what happens when you leave us unsupervised.  You should know better than that.  ^_^

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

*Is having a study break. Comes here and reads that Vaughan became a model citizen*
...ugh I must be dreaming. 2 AM and studying like a donkey might be giving me hallucinations.

No, Lady D just wrote a fic about someone who engaged in elf abuse to an extent that it made him appear one in comparison. And good luck on your final. Posted Image

Sarah:  Yuppers.  Written during one of my 'I like Eamon' phases.  I go back and forth.

Just like how I do about the Orzammar succession question for my DN...

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cmessaz wrote...

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heh well I'm thinking it will end when DA2 comes out and we find out its 30 years from the current game time and Alistair/PC have done the DeepRoads tango...And a new generation must take care of the next big bad.

Oddly enough, I'm kind of hoping for this. Otherwise, you just know that the PC will either tragically vanish, randomly end up in, say, Orlais even though they're Queen/Chancellor/Teyrna/whatever and that makes no sense, or their life will otherwise be ruined just as it was at the end of their origin. Is a little happiness after having their life implode and then ending the Blight really too much to ask for? Posted Image

Yeah, I am very undecided as to whether or not I want them to continue our story.


I'm hoping for middle ground. Give the CHOICE to continue, and the choice to start new. 

Smug Alistair after he nuzzled Kasha's ear...
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LadyDamodred wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

*Is having a study break. Comes here and reads that Vaughan became a model citizen*
...ugh I must be dreaming. 2 AM and studying like a donkey might be giving me hallucinations.


*grins*  This is what happens when you leave us unsupervised.  You should know better than that.  ^_^


And you are supposed to be a teacher.
I though I was the bad news for this thread.

@ Sarah. Thank you.

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Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

heh well I'm thinking it will end when DA2 comes out and we find out its 30 years from the current game time and Alistair/PC have done the DeepRoads tango...And a new generation must take care of the next big bad.

Oddly enough, I'm kind of hoping for this. Otherwise, you just know that the PC will either tragically vanish, randomly end up in, say, Orlais even though they're Queen/Chancellor/Teyrna/whatever and that makes no sense, or their life will otherwise be ruined just as it was at the end of their origin. Is a little happiness after having their life implode and then ending the Blight really too much to ask for? Posted Image

Yeah, I am very undecided as to whether or not I want them to continue our story.


I'm hoping for middle ground. Give the CHOICE to continue, and the choice to start new. 

That's what they did for Awakening and even though they claimed they only added the Orlesian Warden to appease the US crowd they still have that origin be the only one that makes any sense with how little people seem to know you. The inkeeper in Amaranthine, for instance, not being able to believe that Kristoff's commander was an elf or a dwarf despite said elf or dwarf recently ending a Blight? It fits better for an Orlesian.

But as much as I wouldn't want my characters to have to leave their lives again to go deal with a new threat outside of Ferelden I also wouldn't want that to mean that they're dead like it does if you have an Orlesian in Awakening.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Was it hard to write something so horrifying and depressing? I'm not sure I could do that.


I suppose I should say yes, huh?  But not really.  Like I told cmess, her character started writing in my head.  That is what happened, so that's what I wrote.

I scare myself sometimes.


Jaina did that to me, my one and only character blog post on my profile here I think.

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Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Was it hard to write something so horrifying and depressing? I'm not sure I could do that.


I suppose I should say yes, huh?  But not really.  Like I told cmess, her character started writing in my head.  That is what happened, so that's what I wrote.

I scare myself sometimes.


Jaina did that to me, my one and only character blog post on my profile here I think.

A lot of people have their characters talk to them, especially if they write fanfic. I know mine does. And sometimes she won't do what I want but what fits in better with her beliefs and values...Is that something I should be worried about? Posted Image

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For the bored, I wrote another little story about my Dalish mage character.  Mostly Mahariel/Tamlen, but Alistair gets in at the end.  (edit: link fixed, I hope)

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I like to play an Orlesian with the "canon" ending being Alistair married to my Fem-Cousland and saying a big fat NO to the suggestion that she bugger off and be warden commander instead of doing her job as queen of ferelden ;)

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Funny, I do well in college comp and whatnot, I can write a killer persuasive essay, but I cannot write fiction. At all.



Lady D, I read Selfish Hearts, you are a heck of a writer.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

heh well I'm thinking it will end when DA2 comes out and we find out its 30 years from the current game time and Alistair/PC have done the DeepRoads tango...And a new generation must take care of the next big bad.

Oddly enough, I'm kind of hoping for this. Otherwise, you just know that the PC will either tragically vanish, randomly end up in, say, Orlais even though they're Queen/Chancellor/Teyrna/whatever and that makes no sense, or their life will otherwise be ruined just as it was at the end of their origin. Is a little happiness after having their life implode and then ending the Blight really too much to ask for? Posted Image

Yeah, I am very undecided as to whether or not I want them to continue our story.


I'm hoping for middle ground. Give the CHOICE to continue, and the choice to start new. 

That's what they did for Awakening and even though they claimed they only added the Orlesian Warden to appease the US crowd they still have that origin be the only one that makes any sense with how little people seem to know you. The inkeeper in Amaranthine, for instance, not being able to believe that Kristoff's commander was an elf or a dwarf despite said elf or dwarf recently ending a Blight? It fits better for an Orlesian.

But as much as I wouldn't want my characters to have to leave their lives again to go deal with a new threat outside of Ferelden I also wouldn't want that to mean that they're dead like it does if you have an Orlesian in Awakening.


I ignored it for the most part, the blight never made it that far...it actually was ended "before it began". So while it may be a huge deal in one part of Ferelden, I figure maybe it didn't get as much attention and notice up north.  That and not much is known about the GW in Ferelden, so ignorance remains as to who they'll allow in their ranks, and who could lead them. Especially since there's only one or two in Ferelden at all until the Orlesians show up.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

heh well I'm thinking it will end when DA2 comes out and we find out its 30 years from the current game time and Alistair/PC have done the DeepRoads tango...And a new generation must take care of the next big bad.

Oddly enough, I'm kind of hoping for this. Otherwise, you just know that the PC will either tragically vanish, randomly end up in, say, Orlais even though they're Queen/Chancellor/Teyrna/whatever and that makes no sense, or their life will otherwise be ruined just as it was at the end of their origin. Is a little happiness after having their life implode and then ending the Blight really too much to ask for? Posted Image

Yeah, I am very undecided as to whether or not I want them to continue our story.


I'm hoping for middle ground. Give the CHOICE to continue, and the choice to start new. 

That's what they did for Awakening and even though they claimed they only added the Orlesian Warden to appease the US crowd they still have that origin be the only one that makes any sense with how little people seem to know you. The inkeeper in Amaranthine, for instance, not being able to believe that Kristoff's commander was an elf or a dwarf despite said elf or dwarf recently ending a Blight? It fits better for an Orlesian.

But as much as I wouldn't want my characters to have to leave their lives again to go deal with a new threat outside of Ferelden I also wouldn't want that to mean that they're dead like it does if you have an Orlesian in Awakening.


I ignored it for the most part, the blight never made it that far...it actually was ended "before it began". So while it may be a huge deal in one part of Ferelden, I figure maybe it didn't get as much attention and notice up north.  That and not much is known about the GW in Ferelden, so ignorance remains as to who they'll allow in their ranks, and who could lead them. Especially since there's only one or two in Ferelden at all until the Orlesians show up.


and since Darkspawn/Architect kills them, its pretty much still just PC and Alistair till you start recruiting...Posted Image

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*throws a fit* WHY won't my profile update?! I want to use Gaia as my avatar!

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is your profile full?

check your Profile Diagnostics under game.  Otherwise it usually takes mine about a day to upload (this is the Roland I made last night after my game blew up).

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cmessaz wrote...

Funny, I do well in college comp and whatnot, I can write a killer persuasive essay, but I cannot write fiction. At all.


Really? Answer this then


"What institution discussed in this course (i.e. individuals, structures, processes), if any, contributes the most to improving the quality of democratic governance in Canada? Why? Which, if any, actually undermines the quality democratic governance in Canada? Why? "