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cmessaz wrote...

Lol I agree with Sarah on Lothering. It is a drag. But I hate the Dalish treaty and like Orzammar and the deep roads, so I guess I am just a dork.

Strangely enough, so do I. But then, my DN felt that the dwarves had a reason to be all pissy with her as she was legally guilty of fratricide but the Dalish going 'We hate you because humans suck' was a bit of a WTF moment.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

What ended up stalling me for four freaking days was Lothering. It is easily the most boring part of the entire game. I wish it didn't exist and might be willing to deal with losing Sten and Leliana in exchange.


But that's not the intro. In fact I welcome it, as it's the only real visual indicator of the suffering people have to endure during war (refugees) and is a welcome break from all the Origins / Ostagar action. But maybe that's just me.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

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Ooooh, I get it Lady D, so if I save the mage's tower for last and defy the templars, she is starting to take control of her life and is seeing them for what they really are, but instead of this being a good thing it is the opposite. See?! I told you I suck at writing. Do you get what I mean?


You mean that she finally saw the opportunity to defy those who watched over her for years, the peoplke she feared the most, and in that instance she saw them as being more afraid than she was and thus decided to bring closure to her past life as a scared oppressed mage by standing up to her fears against both templars and demons, simultanoeusly realising that the Templars are not that bad and are just as much of a victim as she is?

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome

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Sandtigress wrote...

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For the bored, I wrote another little story about my Dalish mage character.  Mostly Mahariel/Tamlen, but Alistair gets in at the end.  (edit: link fixed, I hope)


Oh my, Addai, that was totally sweet.  It's late so I'll try and write a more proper comment and review tomorrow, but I wanted you to know that I liked it, very much!

Aw, thanks.  I'm making the effort because I like the Dalish stuff so much and this character intrigues me more than others have, but also because people have told me there's very little Mahariel stuff out there.  So we have to stick together.  LOL

Argh, and I see a mistake.  I wish ffnet made it easier to edit on the fly.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lol I agree with Sarah on Lothering. It is a drag. But I hate the Dalish treaty and like Orzammar and the deep roads, so I guess I am just a dork.

Strangely enough, so do I. But then, my DN felt that the dwarves had a reason to be all pissy with her as she was legally guilty of fratricide but the Dalish going 'We hate you because humans suck' was a bit of a WTF moment.

I actually feel like siding with the Werewolves is justified, as awful  as that sounds. After seeing how Zathrian will outright refuse to lift the curse right in front of his entire clan. They hate humans so much that they don't even care.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

What ended up stalling me for four freaking days was Lothering. It is easily the most boring part of the entire game. I wish it didn't exist and might be willing to deal with losing Sten and Leliana in exchange.


But that's not the intro. In fact I welcome it, as it's the only real visual indicator of the suffering people have to endure during war (refugees) and is a welcome break from all the Origins / Ostagar action. But maybe that's just me.


I agree. There's no place I hate more than the Fade anyway, and I no longer have to deal with that.

So I redirect my anger toward all the goddamn back and forth BS I have to do in Orzammar. I actually hate that part more than the Deep Roads :/

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There is really no part in the game I hate, I like them all but unequally. But the one I felt had the most loopholes and just expected the player to go with it is Redcliff. Makes me want to facepalm, if it wasn't for the cool battle that goes there.  

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Edit: Bah! Top of page. How does this always happen to me?

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He actually looks evil.

If I knew girls like evil faces this much, I would express my evilness much more often.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

What ended up stalling me for four freaking days was Lothering. It is easily the most boring part of the entire game. I wish it didn't exist and might be willing to deal with losing Sten and Leliana in exchange.


But that's not the intro. In fact I welcome it, as it's the only real visual indicator of the suffering people have to endure during war (refugees) and is a welcome break from all the Origins / Ostagar action. But maybe that's just me.


I think a return to Lothering, for whatever reason, when it's taken over by darkspawn would have been interesting, too. It would be all blighted and you might have to fight ghouls there.  That would have been a good visual indicator, too, imo.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

There is really no part in the game I hate, I like them all but unequally. But the one I felt had the most loopholes and just expected the player to go with it is Redcliff. Makes me want to facepalm, if it wasn't for the cool battle that goes there.  

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Edit: Bah! Top of page. How does this always happen to me?

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He actually looks evil.

If I knew girls like evil faces this much, I would express my evilness much more often.



LoL, I just uploaded this one super fast because I had no Alistair and I didn't think anyone here wanted to look at Loghain, which is all I've got.

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phaonica wrote...
I think a return to Lothering, for whatever reason, when it's taken over by darkspawn would have been interesting, too. It would be all blighted and you might have to fight ghouls there.  That would have been a good visual indicator, too, imo.


And give us the opportunity to choose whether to try to save as much villagers as possible, or kill them all yourself in order to avoid infection spreading (Duncan did this). The possibilities.

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cmessaz wrote...

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome


Sounds interesting. ANd if LD wrote it, I'm sure it's good.
I'll read it after I am done with my finals. That is if I manage to pull myself from this thread. Never though I would say that but here it is.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome


Sounds interesting. ANd if LD wrote it, I'm sure it's good.
I'll read it after I am done with my finals. That is if I manage to pull myself from this thread. Never though I would say that but here it is.

I'm done with my finals Posted Image Good luck!

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome


Sounds interesting. ANd if LD wrote it, I'm sure it's good.
I'll read it after I am done with my finals. That is if I manage to pull myself from this thread. Never though I would say that but here it is.


Hehe, you can't resist! :innocent:

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Dang I'm still having trouble figuring out how I am going to RP executing Alistair though.

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I actually feel like siding with the Werewolves is justified, as awful  as that sounds. After seeing how Zathrian will outright refuse to lift the curse right in front of his entire clan. They hate humans so much that they don't even care. 

When does he refuse in front of the whole clan? I usually don't hear him admit to the curse until after he gets to the ruins (WTF couldn't he have gone with me? Bastard) and then he removes it, like, five minutes later. Is this after you kill Witherfang? 

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome


Sounds interesting. ANd if LD wrote it, I'm sure it's good.
I'll read it after I am done with my finals. That is if I manage to pull myself from this thread. Never though I would say that but here it is.

It's becuse we're ridiculously awesome. Posted Image And for some reason the best conversations on this thread seem to happen after midnight. Maybe it's because there are less people on so it can be more of a discussion than just everyone posting all at once? 

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Sarah- I was worried about siding with the werewolves, and I intended to reload after I unlocked the achievement. But when you and Witherfang approach the camp, there is an option basically telling him to end the curse or else, and he refuses. That helped me RP it a little better, like I was intending to use force to get him to break it but he refuses.

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yukidama wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

She was more than scarred by the templars. Did you read Lady D's fic on my new character? The story doesn't get much better after that. 
My character has  Stockholm Syndrome


Sounds interesting. ANd if LD wrote it, I'm sure it's good.
I'll read it after I am done with my finals. That is if I manage to pull myself from this thread. Never though I would say that but here it is.


Hehe, you can't resist! :innocent:


I am blaming you.


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 It's becuse we're ridiculously awesome. Posted Image And for some reason the best conversations on this thread seem to happen after midnight. Maybe it's because there are less people on so it can be more of a discussion than just everyone posting all at once? 


More people = higher probability of idiocy.

And I am tired so ignore most of what I am saying please.

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Snuggly Elf kisses! :wub:

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Elf kisses are cute when they don't involve my elf.

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cmessaz wrote...

Dang I'm still having trouble figuring out how I am going to RP executing Alistair though.


It could have something to do with Cullen, why you let Alistair be executed.

If she had Stockholm Syndrome, and thought the templar's had saved her and were wonderful --- then was horribly disabused of that notion, it would radically change how she was feeling. She loves Alistair and trusts him. Then comes the Circle quest. Greagoir is quick to seal all the mages off and let them die.  Then she comes to Cullen who she thought loved her (or at least had a thing for her). He turns on her, and wants her and all the mages dead. How soon before Alistair does the same thing? He already won't promise any future with her. Maybe in her mind she has to let him be killed, in order to save herself.

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sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Dang I'm still having trouble figuring out how I am going to RP executing Alistair though.


It could have something to do with Cullen, why you let Alistair be executed.

If she had Stockholm Syndrome, and thought the templar's had saved her and were wonderful --- then was horribly disabused of that notion it would radically change how she was feeling. She loves Alistair and trusts him. Then comes the Circle quest. Greagoir is quick to seal all the mages off and let them die, and then she comes to Cullen who she thought loved her (or at least had a thing for her). He turns on her, and wants her and all the mages dead. How soon before Alistair does the same thing? He already won't promise any future with her. Maybe in her mind she has to let him be killed, in order to save herself.

And don't forget that Alistair was almost a Templar himself and still shows himself to have a very Templar mentality at times.

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sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Dang I'm still having trouble figuring out how I am going to RP executing Alistair though.


It could have something to do with Cullen, why you let Alistair be executed.

If she had Stockholm Syndrome, and thought the templar's had saved her and were wonderful --- then was horribly disabused of that notion it would radically change how she was feeling. She loves Alistair and trusts him. Then comes the Circle quest. Greagoir is quick to seal all the mages off and let them die, and then she comes to Cullen who she thought loved her (or at least had a thing for her). He turns on her, and wants her and all the mages dead. How soon before Alistair does the same thing? He already won't promise any future with her. Maybe in her mind she has to let him be killed, in order to save herself.

That is also a good point. She is mentally unstable. What is not in that fic is that she is taken advantage of by some of the templars in her need to please them. I don't know whether she will admit to loving Alistair or realise that she did until after he is dead, which leads to her meltdown and her refusal of Morrigan's offer in order to end the blight as well as her own pain.

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cmessaz wrote...

Elf kisses are cute when they don't involve my elf.


Your Elves don't like snuggly kisses with Alistair? :blink:

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Annie- My elf mage is messed up in the head and will execute him. So I am sad.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

sabreene wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Dang I'm still having trouble figuring out how I am going to RP executing Alistair though.


It could have something to do with Cullen, why you let Alistair be executed.

If she had Stockholm Syndrome, and thought the templar's had saved her and were wonderful --- then was horribly disabused of that notion it would radically change how she was feeling. She loves Alistair and trusts him. Then comes the Circle quest. Greagoir is quick to seal all the mages off and let them die, and then she comes to Cullen who she thought loved her (or at least had a thing for her). He turns on her, and wants her and all the mages dead. How soon before Alistair does the same thing? He already won't promise any future with her. Maybe in her mind she has to let him be killed, in order to save herself.

And don't forget that Alistair was almost a Templar himself and still shows himself to have a very Templar mentality at times.


Exactly -- she would see Alistair as another Templar, even if he hadn't really finished the training. It's one of the first things she learns about him.

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