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sabreene wrote...

It's hard to find a good hairstyle in this game. Sometimes I give up on a face I love, because I can't get a good hairstyle for her.


Same here. It's why I keep reusing the same ones all the time :|

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I like how if you tell Alistair about the DR but then back out, his only response is "oh good, I'm so relieved" and then YAWN, 'wake me if the castle falls."

Helloooo!  If you're not going to spend the last night before we march with Morrigan, you don't think you could spend it with... you know... ring any bells, Alistair?

Ya big doofus

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I have a new shot of Alistair... him telling a PC about to go kill herself that he'll never forget her.  :crying:

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Addai- I HATE that! Does he kiss you after you say that?

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Addai67 wrote...

I have a new shot of Alistair... him telling a PC about to go kill herself that he'll never forget her.  :crying:

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gasp :P

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sabreene wrote...
It's hard to find a good hairstyle in this game. Sometimes I give up on a face I love, because I can't get a good hairstyle for her.

I've noticed not every hairstyle goes for every character. My revamped Queen Cousland has tmp's Leliana hair now and looks fantastic. I tried the same haircut on my other human noble and it didn't fit her at all.

I'm glad I've found a way to change little things like hairstyles (skin textures, eye colors and textures, blush colors, eye shadow colors, lip colors) on existing characters that were created via character creation screen.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

He actually looks evil.

If I knew girls like evil faces this much, I would express my evilness much more often.



Shouldn´t you work on your exams instead of looking evil? Or are you already done?

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klarabella wrote...

sabreene wrote...
It's hard to find a good hairstyle in this game. Sometimes I give up on a face I love, because I can't get a good hairstyle for her.

I've noticed not every hairstyle goes for every character. My revamped Queen Cousland has tmp's Leliana hair now and looks fantastic. I tried the same haircut on my other human noble and it didn't fit her at all.

I'm glad I've found a way to change little things like hairstyles (skin textures, eye colors and textures, blush colors, eye shadow colors, lip colors) on existing characters that were created via character creation screen.


Are you using that mod on nexus that turns CC-game made characters into .mor files? Or did you find another way to edit them?

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sabreene wrote...

klarabella wrote...

sabreene wrote...
It's hard to find a good hairstyle in this game. Sometimes I give up on a face I love, because I can't get a good hairstyle for her.

I've noticed not every hairstyle goes for every character. My revamped Queen Cousland has tmp's Leliana hair now and looks fantastic. I tried the same haircut on my other human noble and it didn't fit her at all.

I'm glad I've found a way to change little things like hairstyles (skin textures, eye colors and textures, blush colors, eye shadow colors, lip colors) on existing characters that were created via character creation screen.


Are you using that mod on nexus that turns CC-game made characters into .mor files? Or did you find another way to edit them?

Yes, I use a little program called face replacer to extract the mor-files, then edit them as much as I can. That's why it's reduced to things like hair style, colors and textures, the facial structure is too cryptic to change. Sometimes I experiment a little and copy the data from other characters and then load them in-game but the results aren't very satisfying. Then I can link the edited morph to a savegame or use face replacer to put the data back into the savegame. ^_^

That's not as good as changing a character you built with the toolset because you'd need an mrh-file to do that but the changes are good enough for tweaking older characters that you are fed up with.

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Lol I agree with Sarah on Lothering. It is a drag. But I hate the Dalish treaty and like Orzammar and the deep roads, so I guess I am just a dork.

Strangely enough, so do I. But then, my DN felt that the dwarves had a reason to be all pissy with her as she was legally guilty of fratricide but the Dalish going 'We hate you because humans suck' was a bit of a WTF moment.

I actually feel like siding with the Werewolves is justified, as awful  as that sounds. After seeing how Zathrian will outright refuse to lift the curse right in front of his entire clan. They hate humans so much that they don't even care.


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Has cmessaz decided yet how to roleplay a character in love with Alistair who will allow Anora to kill him? There was thread once and I had posted a theory that might work, but it would take a rather damaged woman to be that possessive. It amounts to "Riordan says recruit Loghain, things are getting out of control, Alistair is furious and threatens to leave, can't let him become king, can't marry him to Anora, can't let him leave, if I can't have him no one will, I'd rather see him dead and will follow him as soo as possible".

It's not the healthy kind of love, insanity more like. :unsure:

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

There is really no part in the game I hate, I like them all but unequally. But the one I felt had the most loopholes and just expected the player to go with it is Redcliff. Makes me want to facepalm, if it wasn't for the cool battle that goes there.  

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Edit: Bah! Top of page. How does this always happen to me?

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He actually looks evil.

If I knew girls like evil faces this much, I would express my evilness much more often.


I think thats where he is saying "Nefarious even *evil laugh* cough cough" too sweet to pull it off...Posted Image

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klarabella wrote...

Has cmessaz decided yet how to roleplay a character in love with Alistair who will allow Anora to kill him? There was thread once and I had posted a theory that might work, but it would take a rather damaged woman to be that possessive. It amounts to "Riordan says recruit Loghain, things are getting out of control, Alistair is furious and threatens to leave, can't let him become king, can't marry him to Anora, can't let him leave, if I can't have him no one will, I'd rather see him dead and will follow him as soo as possible".

It's not the healthy kind of love, insanity more like. :unsure:


She's got it scoped out.  The story link and the reasoning is posted a couple pages back.  I can't imagine doing it.  Makes me choke up just thinking about it.  I started crying drawing the picture (but thats the only way I can get into a drawing, I have to feel it) but I think its such a waste killing him.  The whole reasoning of getting Loggy in the first place is to have more GW's on hand and to just execute him...Stupid stupid waste.  I'd sooner lock him up and let him cool down first if I didn't trust him to be on the loose.
AnPosted Imagera is a heartless b*tch.

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klarabella wrote...

sabreene wrote...

klarabella wrote...

sabreene wrote...
It's hard to find a good hairstyle in this game. Sometimes I give up on a face I love, because I can't get a good hairstyle for her.

I've noticed not every hairstyle goes for every character. My revamped Queen Cousland has tmp's Leliana hair now and looks fantastic. I tried the same haircut on my other human noble and it didn't fit her at all.

I'm glad I've found a way to change little things like hairstyles (skin textures, eye colors and textures, blush colors, eye shadow colors, lip colors) on existing characters that were created via character creation screen.


Are you using that mod on nexus that turns CC-game made characters into .mor files? Or did you find another way to edit them?

Yes, I use a little program called face replacer to extract the mor-files, then edit them as much as I can. That's why it's reduced to things like hair style, colors and textures, the facial structure is too cryptic to change. Sometimes I experiment a little and copy the data from other characters and then load them in-game but the results aren't very satisfying. Then I can link the edited morph to a savegame or use face replacer to put the data back into the savegame. ^_^

That's not as good as changing a character you built with the toolset because you'd need an mrh-file to do that but the changes are good enough for tweaking older characters that you are fed up with.


That's what I've done, too. I tried some of the other settings, but not with any satisfactory results. I did find the line where you can add/replace the eye texture, so that was helpful for characters that just had eye color when I wanted to give them a texture. 

Now I make characters with the toolset, but my beginning characters (some of which I love <3<3) are all CC based.

I get so attached to my characters! Sometimes I just like to look at screenshots of them. Crazy.:?

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sylvanaerie wrote...

klarabella wrote...
Has cmessaz decided yet how to roleplay a character in love with Alistair who will allow Anora to kill him? There was thread once and I had posted a theory that might work, but it would take a rather damaged woman to be that possessive. It amounts to "Riordan says recruit Loghain, things are getting out of control, Alistair is furious and threatens to leave, can't let him become king, can't marry him to Anora, can't let him leave, if I can't have him no one will, I'd rather see him dead and will follow him as soo as possible".

It's not the healthy kind of love, insanity more like. :unsure:

She's got it scoped out.  The story link and the reasoning is posted a couple pages back.  I can't imagine doing it.  Makes me choke up just thinking about it.  I started crying drawing the picture (but thats the only way I can get into a drawing, I have to feel it) but I think its such a waste killing him.  The whole reasoning of getting Loggy in the first place is to have more GW's on hand and to just execute him...Stupid stupid waste.  I'd sooner lock him up and let him cool down first if I didn't trust him to be on the loose.
AnPosted Imagera is a heartless b*tch.

Ah, I haven't caught up with the thread.

Trying to recruit Loggy is always a waste because you always lose Alistair. While I still think the Landsmeet is pretty crappy with all the recycling and logical holes, I still love the fact that Alistair can't be swayed once you've gone too far.

And you can't lock him up. You have no authority to do that, I assume. Anora wants him dead or gone, she's the one to decide this.

I have a soft spot for the dark ednings, dark in terms of "ugly human behaviour". :blush:

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sylvanaerie wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

There is really no part in the game I hate, I like them all but unequally. But the one I felt had the most loopholes and just expected the player to go with it is Redcliff. Makes me want to facepalm, if it wasn't for the cool battle that goes there.  

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Edit: Bah! Top of page. How does this always happen to me?

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He actually looks evil.

If I knew girls like evil faces this much, I would express my evilness much more often.


I think thats where he is saying "Nefarious even *evil laugh* cough cough" too sweet to pull it off...Posted Image


I love that line, and I think I snap that exact shot nearly every playthrough. We love pretend evilness, for the cute-silliness factor!  And, the way his voice sounds when he says, "nefarious even" :wub:

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klarabella wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

klarabella wrote...
Has cmessaz decided yet how to roleplay a character in love with Alistair who will allow Anora to kill him? There was thread once and I had posted a theory that might work, but it would take a rather damaged woman to be that possessive. It amounts to "Riordan says recruit Loghain, things are getting out of control, Alistair is furious and threatens to leave, can't let him become king, can't marry him to Anora, can't let him leave, if I can't have him no one will, I'd rather see him dead and will follow him as soo as possible".

It's not the healthy kind of love, insanity more like. :unsure:

She's got it scoped out.  The story link and the reasoning is posted a couple pages back.  I can't imagine doing it.  Makes me choke up just thinking about it.  I started crying drawing the picture (but thats the only way I can get into a drawing, I have to feel it) but I think its such a waste killing him.  The whole reasoning of getting Loggy in the first place is to have more GW's on hand and to just execute him...Stupid stupid waste.  I'd sooner lock him up and let him cool down first if I didn't trust him to be on the loose.
AnPosted Imagera is a heartless b*tch.

Ah, I haven't caught up with the thread.

Trying to recruit Loggy is always a waste because you always lose Alistair. While I still think the Landsmeet is pretty crappy with all the recycling and logical holes, I still love the fact that Alistair can't be swayed once you've gone too far.

And you can't lock him up. You have no authority to do that, I assume. Anora wants him dead or gone, she's the one to decide this.

I have a soft spot for the dark ednings, dark in terms of "ugly human behaviour". :blush:


She doesn't have to kill him, she just does it.  Its the most efficient way to get rid of her competition and her first thought solution. soulless B*tch.
*Headdesk* now I am getting pissed off...I can't imagine how Roland is going to tie himself to the cold fish Queen...Posted Image

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:bandit: *nothing to see here*

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sylvanaerie wrote...

klarabella wrote...
Ah, I haven't caught up with the thread.

Trying to recruit Loggy is always a waste because you always lose Alistair. While I still think the Landsmeet is pretty crappy with all the recycling and logical holes, I still love the fact that Alistair can't be swayed once you've gone too far.

And you can't lock him up. You have no authority to do that, I assume. Anora wants him dead or gone, she's the one to decide this.

I have a soft spot for the dark ednings, dark in terms of "ugly human behaviour". :blush:

She doesn't have to kill him, she just does it.  Its the most efficient way to get rid of her competition and her first thought solution. soulless B*tch.
*Headdesk* now I am getting pissed off...I can't imagine how Roland is going to tie himself to the cold fish Queen...Posted Image

I really like Anora. She's a wonderful character. She can be a powerful ally or an annoying enemy.

I came to appreciate her when I started to accept that my characters shouldn't be the pinnacle of awesome and that Alistair has his flaws, too. My Queen Cousland lied to her, killed Cauthrien on the spot and allowed Alistair to execute a man ignoring the rules of the duell. So she can be pretty ruthless and deceiving, too.

It's much more fun this way for me.^_^

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Yes, Alistair has his flaws (And my PC too) but in this instance the crime he is being executed for is being born with the wrong father. Loghain at least deseves what he is being killed for (treason, slave trade, torture of innocent citizens) All of that happened on his watch. He was the general (and then the regent in charge of everything) and should be held accountable for the actions of the man he protected as much as Howe himself.
He knew what Howe had done in Highever (and was doing) and it was HE who set up the deal with Caladrius (the slaver even says as much if you ask him, he says Loghain wouldn't stop talking about the Warden).
Anora is efficient and utterly ruthless. She can be convinced to exile him but that ISN"T her first thought. Even knowing Alistair doesnt' want the throne she wants him dead. Those aren't qualities I admire in people. They may get the job done but in the end you have sacrificed your own soul to do it.

This is dark fantasy at its gritty core and I love it...Its one of those "I love to hate her" kind of things.

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Well, it is implied that (hardened) Alistair might do the same with her once the Blight is ended. I wouldn't judge this too bad, one word and she relents. She's a politician, Alistair is a threat. People are killed for things like thievery or desertion in Ferelden. It's still in line with the world, thats why I don't get all the fuss about killing Loghain, it's definitely nothing extraordinary to kill a general for his failure. You don't have the authority, so it's morally questionable, but even if you chose Anora to be queen, she will let it go unpunished (probably because she needs you to stop the Blight).

I appreciate the general idea, even though I think the Landsmeet is terrible storytelling the way it is done.

Edit: I don't mean to change your mind. I'd have probably said the same thing some months ago but trying to write a story that is based on this ending (and reading every story available about it) has given me a lot to think.
Oh yes, and you can absolutely love to hate her. I'm this way with Loghain. I love to hate him. Arrogant ass! ^_^

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klarabella wrote...

Well, it is implied that (hardened) Alistair might do the same with her once the Blight is ended. I wouldn't judge this too bad, one word and she relents. She's a politician, Alistair is a threat. People are killed for things like thievery or desertion in Ferelden. It's still in line with the world, thats why I don't get all the fuss about killing Loghain, it's definitely nothing extraordinary to kill a general for his failure. You don't have the authority, so it's morally questionable, but even if you chose Anora to be queen, she will let it go unpunished (probably because she needs you to stop the Blight).

I appreciate the general idea, even though I think the Landsmeet is terrible storytelling the way it is done.

Edit: I don't mean to change your mind. I'd have probably said the same thing some months ago but trying to write a story that is based on this ending (and reading every story available about it) has given me a lot to think.
Oh yes, and you can absolutely love to hate her. I'm this way with Loghain. I love to hate him. Arrogant ass! ^_^


LOL this game sure does suck you into its world doesn't it ?  I know it has a lot of historical precedent.  Kings and Queens executed their political enemies (sometimes siblings) all the time so this is sometimes how the world worked back then.  Probably in some places it still does.

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sylvanaerie wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Well, it is implied that (hardened) Alistair might do the same with her once the Blight is ended. I wouldn't judge this too bad, one word and she relents. She's a politician, Alistair is a threat. People are killed for things like thievery or desertion in Ferelden. It's still in line with the world, thats why I don't get all the fuss about killing Loghain, it's definitely nothing extraordinary to kill a general for his failure. You don't have the authority, so it's morally questionable, but even if you chose Anora to be queen, she will let it go unpunished (probably because she needs you to stop the Blight).

I appreciate the general idea, even though I think the Landsmeet is terrible storytelling the way it is done.

Edit: I don't mean to change your mind. I'd have probably said the same thing some months ago but trying to write a story that is based on this ending (and reading every story available about it) has given me a lot to think.
Oh yes, and you can absolutely love to hate her. I'm this way with Loghain. I love to hate him. Arrogant ass! ^_^



LOL this game sure does suck you into its world doesn't it ?  I know it has a lot of historical precedent.  Kings and Queens executed their political enemies (sometimes siblings) all the time so this is sometimes how the world worked back then.  Probably in some places it still does.


Elizabeth I finally (after about 15 years) signing the death warrent
for her cousin Mary Queen of Scots but putting it on the floor so she
can blame the adviser who picks it up for enforcing it...

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Maria13 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Well, it is implied that (hardened) Alistair might do the same with her once the Blight is ended. I wouldn't judge this too bad, one word and she relents. She's a politician, Alistair is a threat. People are killed for things like thievery or desertion in Ferelden. It's still in line with the world, thats why I don't get all the fuss about killing Loghain, it's definitely nothing extraordinary to kill a general for his failure. You don't have the authority, so it's morally questionable, but even if you chose Anora to be queen, she will let it go unpunished (probably because she needs you to stop the Blight).

I appreciate the general idea, even though I think the Landsmeet is terrible storytelling the way it is done.

Edit: I don't mean to change your mind. I'd have probably said the same thing some months ago but trying to write a story that is based on this ending (and reading every story available about it) has given me a lot to think.
Oh yes, and you can absolutely love to hate her. I'm this way with Loghain. I love to hate him. Arrogant ass! ^_^



LOL this game sure does suck you into its world doesn't it ?  I know it has a lot of historical precedent.  Kings and Queens executed their political enemies (sometimes siblings) all the time so this is sometimes how the world worked back then.  Probably in some places it still does.


Elizabeth I finally (after about 15 years) signing the death warrent
for her cousin Mary Queen of Scots but putting it on the floor so she
can blame the adviser who picks it up for enforcing it...


yea, Elizabeth is who I think of first when dealing with Anora.  Queens and Kings had to do some seriously questionable things to protect their throne and I sure as hell don't envy them.  And she was a strong woman (just as Anora is) far ahead of her time.
hehe Top of page.  Alistair never fails to make me giggle even when I have heard the lines 30 times already.  Between D Gaider and Steve Valentine, they created a winner in him.

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