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[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Yeah, I didn't realize it til I saw someone else mention it.  I felt like such a twit.  There's --- button that you can use to insert a line to show breaks.

Edit:  Also, the longer review is not me.  They do make good points, though.  But since I know you here, I would probably send those along through PM. 

Oh, right.  Yes all good points, and I recognized the problem with perspective changes.  If I was going to do it right, I would probably write the scene first from my PC's perspective, then switch to Alistair.  I was trying to be economical, I suppose.

I really don't like writing for Alistair.    It feels like I'm in someone else's closet rummaging around.

You mean writing Alistair? I love this, he's such a fun character to write, regardless if he's snarky or angsty. I like to get into his head, have fun to play around with his character and seize him for my story needs (of course always IC, OOC-ness is )

Regarding the editor...there is no such in the literally way, you have to go to your document manager and make the changes there, then save it and replace the chapter under my stories --> chapter/content.

[LadyDamodred]

soignee wrote...

why do people always moan about the line breaks with ff.net? I just write the story and use three asterixes, then manually put the breaks in myself with the editor. Gives you a chance to flick through the story again and check for any errors too.

I think it's that we didn't realize *** wasn't recognized by ff.net, and so we didn't know the line breaks weren't being preserved.  I typically do several read throughs before posting, so I generally don't do another when I upload/publish.  Now that I understand how it works, I always check.  It was just annoying to realize it.

[Giggles_Manically]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

What i do not get is that two people who live toghther can become common law in Canada, without marriage yet get many of the benefits. While two people of the same gender who love each other can not even become common law, yet they also do not go through a marriage ceremony. And I vote Conservative too

[soignee]

Sandtigress wrote...

soignee wrote...

why do people always moan about the line breaks with ff.net? I just write the story and use three asterixes, then manually put the breaks in myself with the editor. Gives you a chance to flick through the story again and check for any errors too.

ff.net's line breaks are ugly.  >.>  lol It's a minor thing, but I ahte them.  I use -~0~- now for breaks, though I miss my astericks.  Last couple of chapters I've checked that's shown up fine, but now I'm paranoid about it and go back and check periodically.

I like them, it shows a finality between scenes for me. I loathe it when people use weird ass *~~~** combos to show line breaks, I'll be honest.

 I also hate it when random things are bolded and/or underlined as well, as it breaks reading rhythm. If you want to put emphasis on a word then italics is fine, but everything else annoys me.

[LadyDamodred]

soignee wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

soignee wrote...

why do people always moan about the line breaks with ff.net? I just write the story and use three asterixes, then manually put the breaks in myself with the editor. Gives you a chance to flick through the story again and check for any errors too.

ff.net's line breaks are ugly.  >.>  lol It's a minor thing, but I ahte them.  I use -~0~- now for breaks, though I miss my astericks.  Last couple of chapters I've checked that's shown up fine, but now I'm paranoid about it and go back and check periodically.

I like them, it shows a finality between scenes for me. I loathe it when people use weird ass *~~~** combos to show line breaks, I'll be honest.

 I also hate it when random things are bolded and/or underlined as well, as it breaks reading rhythm. If you want to put emphasis on a word then italics is fine, but everything else annoys me.

^ Agreed.  I also hate things all in caps or things like "Noooooooooooooooooo!!!"  Goes right up my ass sideways.  I've fought it for 6 years in fansubbing b/c it drives me crazy to see that.

[TotoroTori]

hmmm I'm just gonna study this fanfiction convo to understand how to be a better writer

[Addai]

Merilsell wrote...

You mean writing Alistair? I love this, he's such a fun character to write, regardless if he's snarky or angsty. I like to get into his head, have fun to play around with his character and seize him for my story needs (of course always IC, OOC-ness is )

He IS a great character, in every way possible, I just don't like writing for other people's characters.  It's the same for the collaborative Tolkien stuff I've done.  Some of us know each other's characters so well that we can easily sub for each other, but it still feels like wearing someone else's socks.

Regarding the editor...there is no such in the literally way, you have to go to your document manager and make the changes there, then save it and replace the chapter under my stories --> chapter/content.

Oh, hm.  Back to the drawing board.  Edit:  I think I got it!  Tried adding in a line break, and also switched a little error that had the Tamlen/Mahariel bit as both spring and fall.  Thanks for the help everyone.

Modifié par Addai67, 30 mai 2010 - 09:15 .

[Merilsell]

When reading things in bold I always think: I get it, I get it. No need to scream it. o.O

This is why I hate A/N in bold too. I refrain from using bold, if possible

[Tirigon]

Addai67 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

WOOT my Cousland boy just fought Sten in Haven, I have never done that before! It was TOTALLY WICKED!!!

You've never done this before??  I always look forward to that, weirdly enough.  Though the first time it happened, I just stood there not willing to fight at first.  Until he took down half my health with one blow.

Just HOW can it happen? I never had that, though Sten was often with me in Haven.....

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

Marriage often takes place in a church but it's a government institution. I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me a non-religious reasn they are against gay marriage. America is supposed to have a seperation of church and state so why should one person's reigious beliefs stop another from getting married?

Modifié par Sarah1281, 30 mai 2010 - 09:18 .

[Addai]

Tirigon wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

WOOT my Cousland boy just fought Sten in Haven, I have never done that before! It was TOTALLY WICKED!!!

You've never done this before??  I always look forward to that, weirdly enough.  Though the first time it happened, I just stood there not willing to fight at first.  Until he took down half my health with one blow.

Just HOW can it happen? I never had that, though Sten was often with me in Haven.....

He is always supposed to challenge you about (as he sees it) the pointlessness of your mission.  But if his approval is high enough, he'll only verbally challenge.  You can also Persuade or Intimidate him to back down.  It's much more fun to let him duel you, though.  You actually get crazy approval if you respond in shirty fashion (e.g. "Too bad, I'm in charge" and "I'd like to see you try") and then kick his ass.

P.S. I believe this only happens the very first time you go to Haven.

Modifié par Addai67, 30 mai 2010 - 09:23 .

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

You mean writing Alistair? I love this, he's such a fun character to write, regardless if he's snarky or angsty. I like to get into his head, have fun to play around with his character and seize him for my story needs (of course always IC, OOC-ness is )

He IS a great character, in every way possible, I just don't like writing for other people's characters.  It's the same for the collaborative Tolkien stuff I've done.  Some of us know each other's characters so well that we can easily sub for each other, but it still feels like wearing someone else's socks.

Aww Tolkien. Somehow I miss my good old LotR-fangirl days <3

I know what you mean but for me it is part of the fun of FF. To analyze a character and when done use him properly (means IC) for your story. To write FF partly means to wear someone else's sock, because you use established characters to your own needs.

Well if this appease you D.Gaider approves of fanfiction. He thinks it's a great way to extend the story how you like it. Naturally he doesn't read the stuff, but to be honest in many cases I'm glad he doesn't

Modifié par Merilsell, 30 mai 2010 - 09:22 .

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

Marriage often takes place in a church but it's a government institution. I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me a non-religious reasn they are against gay marriage. America is supposed to have a seperation of church and state so why should one person's reigious beliefs stop another from getting married?

Considering the lack of respect people treat their marriages with these days, I'm surprised ANYONE is allowed to get married.

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

Marriage often takes place in a church but it's a government institution. I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me a non-religious reasn they are against gay marriage. America is supposed to have a seperation of church and state so why should one person's reigious beliefs stop another from getting married?

Either make marriage separate from the church or live with the rules that the church sets. Have a civil union and call it a marriage, all that it would lack is the priest.

[Sarah1281]

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.



Do you guys think it's OOC for the PC to point this out and suggest Alistair wait to get more information before demonizing Loghain, Alistair agrees to do so, and then when he arrives in Lothering and finds out about the bounty on GW, the men Logain left to attack the GWs, that Loghain blames the GW for being traitors and killing the King then he hates him? It's not like Alistair doesn't have good reason to hate Logain, I just don't think he has enough at Flemeth's hut.

[Verly]

I can read bolded and underlined better then someone wanting to emphasize words and use quote marks because when you see a sign in real lilfe that says "brand "new" car". it's not new at all. I've gotten into the habit of using *this* if I'm emphasizing something in writing.

[mellifera]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

Marriage often takes place in a church but it's a government institution. I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me a non-religious reasn they are against gay marriage. America is supposed to have a seperation of church and state so why should one person's reigious beliefs stop another from getting married?

Either make marriage separate from the church or live with the rules that the church sets. Have a civil union and call it a marriage, all that it would lack is the priest.

You can get a marriage license without having ever stepped foot in a church.

[Miri1984]

The separation of Church and State is the best thing about American politics - but it's astonishing to me to see how hard some politicians try to get around it.



Gay marriage isn't allowed in Australia either which is ridiculous IMO. Who does it hurt? No one at all! So why prevent it? Makes my mind boggle.

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.
 

I assume he's going on Flemeth's and Morrigan's account of what happened.

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.

Do you guys think it's OOC for the PC to point this out and suggest Alistair wait to get more information before demonizing Loghain, Alistair agrees to do so, and then when he arrives in Lothering and finds out about the bounty on GW, the men Logain left to attack the GWs, that Loghain blames the GW for being traitors and killing the King then he hates him? It's not like Alistair doesn't have good reason to hate Logain, I just don't think he has enough at Flemeth's hut.

You make the PC, so it could have whatever character you want it to have. So it can hardly be OOC.

And Alastair is not thinking rationally at that point. As he sees it, Loghain retreated=all GW dead.

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

In my sophomore year of high school two of my friends and I were forced to argue against gay marriage and we were big supporters so we basically just said 'yeah, the bible said it's evil' and we won. It was pathetic.

I think that debate should be held as a religious one, not one of civil rights. A civil union could be held anywhere with the same celebrations as a marriage, giving the same deal when it comes to rules and regulations. If that isn't allowed I see the problem though.

I don't see why politicians should change churches. If you happen to follow a religion that doesn't condone gay marriage and you are gay, it basically sucks to be you.

Marriage often takes place in a church but it's a government institution. I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me a non-religious reasn they are against gay marriage. America is supposed to have a seperation of church and state so why should one person's reigious beliefs stop another from getting married?

Either make marriage separate from the church or live with the rules that the church sets. Have a civil union and call it a marriage, all that it would lack is the priest.

You don't have to get married in a church or have any sort of religion involved and that is still recognized as a legal marriage. If you are religious you can get religion involved but it is not mandatory. If you want to have a completely secular marriage and that's fine for heterosexual couples then why should religious rules interfere with a completely secular homosexual couple? 

[Miri1984]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.

Do you guys think it's OOC for the PC to point this out and suggest Alistair wait to get more information before demonizing Loghain, Alistair agrees to do so, and then when he arrives in Lothering and finds out about the bounty on GW, the men Logain left to attack the GWs, that Loghain blames the GW for being traitors and killing the King then he hates him? It's not like Alistair doesn't have good reason to hate Logain, I just don't think he has enough at Flemeth's hut.

Morrigan tells him the whole story - she says so to you when you wake up. So he knows that Loghain saw the beacon lit and left without a fight.

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.

Do you guys think it's OOC for the PC to point this out and suggest Alistair wait to get more information before demonizing Loghain, Alistair agrees to do so, and then when he arrives in Lothering and finds out about the bounty on GW, the men Logain left to attack the GWs, that Loghain blames the GW for being traitors and killing the King then he hates him? It's not like Alistair doesn't have good reason to hate Logain, I just don't think he has enough at Flemeth's hut.

Morrigan and Flemth inform you that Loghain quit the field, so he does know that he left even with the signal. it's still ic to say hey, lets get more info before we rush to judgment, since your source is of course a witch and her daughter. But he does know.

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I'm not trying to start a Loghain debate but it's always bothered me how Alistair decides he's evil at Flemeth's hut when all he knows is that Loghain didn't charge. He doesn't know Loghain retreated or were attacked by darkspawn, he doesn't know if the beacon could have been lit in time, he certainly doesn't know that Loghain left the minute he saw the beacon.

Do you guys think it's OOC for the PC to point this out and suggest Alistair wait to get more information before demonizing Loghain, Alistair agrees to do so, and then when he arrives in Lothering and finds out about the bounty on GW, the men Logain left to attack the GWs, that Loghain blames the GW for being traitors and killing the King then he hates him? It's not like Alistair doesn't have good reason to hate Logain, I just don't think he has enough at Flemeth's hut.

You make the PC, so it could have whatever character you want it to have. So it can hardly be OOC.

And Alastair is not thinking rationally at that point. As he sees it, Loghain retreated=all GW dead.

I was asking if Alistair would be out of character. And Flemeth and Morrigan are two apostate witches who only say 'Teyrn Loghain didn't charge' and something about much darkness in the hearts of men.