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[cmessaz]

I just got the "hot" thing recently. The best way to handle the zevran jealousy convo is as follows:

pc:thats right we are in love

alistair:oh i can't say im surprised, i guess there is nothing to talk about

pc:why not?

alistair:am I hearing you right? i thought you said there was something between you

pc:what if i said i like you more

alistair:i...don't know what id say to that to be honest. it doesn't seem fair to lead him on, or me to be honest, either you are with someone or not!

pc:then i'm with you

etc.

[mellifera]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

The only changes I don't like in the ADP were the moving of the companion gossip conversation until far later than originally, and the jealosy threshold. Other than that, It's been great for me. As someone who seldom makes Alistair king, it was a godsend. As well as getting to make kissyface at the final battle.

I don't like that it edited his jealousy convo. I know it didn't make sense for him to repeat the dialogue that leads to the first kiss, but I wish it didn't also change the line that follows the kiss. *really likes Alistair calling her PC and Leliana being together "hot"*

Yeah, especially when she pulls the ninja luv on you, lol. But Alistair's companion convo gossip is more suited to earlier in the game, when he barely knows anyone and isn't quite sure what to make of anyone. It seems out of place after finishing all 4 quests, because by then, he has already got to know everyone, and has formed various relationships with them.

Yeah, I don't like that either. I managed to get the companion convo right before I opened the doors to the roof of Ft. Drakon. It's funny when he's being suspicious and talking about the ulterior motives for sending Morrigan with us... after I made him sleep with her to make the demon baby (and told him it was probably Flemeth's magic). I mean, duh. Was it so traumatising you became an amnesiac?

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Since I do Orzammar first or second in most playthroughs, it's never been an issue for me. I do love that convo because it gets quite flirty and cute.

[Serissia]

I usually do a talk to everyone at camp after leaving every zone. I found that generally I have everyone's conversations run out by the time the Landsmeet comes around.

Argh... being able to hit the camp button after doing an area is so much easier than having to go all the way back to the Keep in Awakening.

Modifié par Serissia, 16 avril 2010 - 02:06 .

[cmessaz]

That is the only complaint that I have, there needs to be more post landsmeet conversations. Why are there Fade conversations with Alistair about him being king? Can you do the fade after the landsmeet? I thought you had to have all the treaties first.

[zchen]

I dunno, if Eamon really wanted to use Alistair as a tool, wouldn't be easier to just spoil him rotten? get him addicted to luxuries?

[cmessaz]

No he wanted his self-esteem gone so he would never be a threat to Cailen. Then the opportunity to use him presented itself, and he changed his tune, because he wants more power. Alistair in his weak ways would make a good puppet for Eamon. That didn't start out as his plan, but I believe that those are his motivations after you revive him.

Modifié par cmessaz, 16 avril 2010 - 02:26 .

[Serissia]

cmessaz wrote...

That is the only complaint that I have, there needs to be more post landsmeet conversations. Why are there Fade conversations with Alistair about him being king? Can you do the fade after the landsmeet? I thought you had to have all the treaties first.

Is that in the Toolset?  I don't remember Alistair mentioning anything about being King in the Fade.  If I recall currently it's just him, his sister and misc children.

[cmessaz]

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

That is the only complaint that I have, there needs to be more post landsmeet conversations. Why are there Fade conversations with Alistair about him being king? Can you do the fade after the landsmeet? I thought you had to have all the treaties first.

Is that in the Toolset?  I don't remember Alistair mentioning anything about being King in the Fade.  If I recall currently it's just him, his sister and misc children.

It is in the toolset, and it indicates that the landsmeet has already taken place.

[Serissia]

cmessaz wrote...

No he wanted his self-esteem gone so he would never be a threat to Cailen. Then the opportunity to use him presented itself, and he changed his tune, because he wants more power. Alistair in his weak ways would make a good puppet for Eamon. That didn't start out as his plan, but I believe that those are his motivations after you revive him.

Yeah, I've always found Eamon's excuses for wanting Alistair on the throne hallow.  I think he uses Alistair as a puppet to indirectly get revenge aganist Loghain for what he did to him and his family.  Eamon seems petty like that.  Eamon also strikes me as someone that would leap at the chance to prove once again that his family had it's hand in saving the day so to speak. 

I'm inept and incompetent so, I can't check myself but I'm curious... does Eamon have dialogue in the Toolset that doesn't show in the game after the coronation?  He seems to hint to Connor being possessed even if the PC didn't go that route. 

[Thor Rand Al]

cmessaz wrote...

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

That is the only complaint that I have, there needs to be more post landsmeet conversations. Why are there Fade conversations with Alistair about him being king? Can you do the fade after the landsmeet? I thought you had to have all the treaties first.

Is that in the Toolset?  I don't remember Alistair mentioning anything about being King in the Fade.  If I recall currently it's just him, his sister and misc children.

It is in the toolset, and it indicates that the landsmeet has already taken place.

When I saw that in the toolset I was baffled too. 

[Commander of the Grey]

Have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help. I downloaded a file for more hair style and all it said was put it in my override. I'm confused. I have the toolset if that's one of the files I need, just don't know how to locate where I need to put it.

[Serissia]

cmessaz wrote...
It is in the toolset, and it indicates that the landsmeet has already taken place.

That's odd.  Doesn't Eamon not allow the Landsmeet to happen until all of the treaties are fullfilled?  I wonder if the planned chain of events was different at one point in time in development.

[cmessaz]

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

No he wanted his self-esteem gone so he would never be a threat to Cailen. Then the opportunity to use him presented itself, and he changed his tune, because he wants more power. Alistair in his weak ways would make a good puppet for Eamon. That didn't start out as his plan, but I believe that those are his motivations after you revive him.

Yeah, I've always found Eamon's excuses for wanting Alistair on the throne hallow.  I think he uses Alistair as a puppet to indirectly get revenge aganist Loghain for what he did to him and his family.  Eamon seems petty like that.  Eamon also strikes me as someone that would leap at the chance to prove once again that his family had it's hand in saving the day so to speak. 

I'm inept and incompetent so, I can't check myself but I'm curious... does Eamon have dialogue in the Toolset that doesn't show in the game after the coronation?  He seems to hint to Connor being possessed even if the PC didn't go that route. 

I will take a look as soon as I am done monkeying in the cutscene editor.

[Thor Rand Al]

Alistairschica wrote...

Have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help. I downloaded a file for more hair style and all it said was put it in my override. I'm confused. I have the toolset if that's one of the files I need, just don't know how to locate where I need to put it.

My documents/Bioware/Dragon Age/packages/core/override.  That's where you need to put that file.

[Commander of the Grey]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

Have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help. I downloaded a file for more hair style and all it said was put it in my override. I'm confused. I have the toolset if that's one of the files I need, just don't know how to locate where I need to put it.

My documents/Bioware/Dragon Age/packages/core/override.  That's where you need to put that file.

Thanks so much!  I shall try that out.

[Serissia]

Alistairschica wrote...

Have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help. I downloaded a file for more hair style and all it said was put it in my override. I'm confused. I have the toolset if that's one of the files I need, just don't know how to locate where I need to put it.

If the hair isn't showing up at the character creation phase then you probably have more than one chargenmorphcfg file in your override folder.  You can either find an already compiled chargenmorphcfg for the mods that you're using or you can use the CharGenMorph Compiler.

If you're trying to make your character completely in the Toolset than someone else will have to help since I'm inept when it comes to that. 

[cmessaz]

Serissia wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

Have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help. I downloaded a file for more hair style and all it said was put it in my override. I'm confused. I have the toolset if that's one of the files I need, just don't know how to locate where I need to put it.

If the hair isn't showing up at the character creation phase then you probably have more than one chargenmorphcfg file in your override folder.  You can either find an already compiled chargenmorphcfg for the mods that you're using or you can use the CharGenMorph Compiler.

If you're trying to make your character completely in the Toolset than someone else will have to help since I'm inept when it comes to that. 

Chargenmorph compiler wasn't invented until after I went through the tedious process of creating a chargenmorph that would work for all the mods I have. I was pissed.

[Corti78]

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
It is in the toolset, and it indicates that the landsmeet has already taken place.

That's odd.  Doesn't Eamon not allow the Landsmeet to happen until all of the treaties are fullfilled?  I wonder if the planned chain of events was different at one point in time in development.

Highly likely. Even though the dev teams are different the same stuff was found in ME2. Through modding the PC version people were able to get companions earlier than intended. The companions all had recorded dialogue for different points in the game that through normal play they would not be available yet. This proved that what they originally planned at some point was compelely different from the direction they went with for the final product.

Given DA took 5 years or so to make I'm sure they went through this cycle multiple times during development with changing when certain events took place. They simply left the unused data in the toolset/game since it would have just been more work to remove it.

Modifié par Corti78, 16 avril 2010 - 02:49 .

[tmp7704]

ejoslin wrote...

The cutscene kiss is still broken.  I have asked Terra_Ex for help, but he has his own project going on right now (he's fixing Morrigan), so it may be a bit.  I'll wrestle with it some more, but there's a good chance I may not get it. 

Do you mean the "yes dear, lick my ear" cutscene which happens when Alistair begs and grovels his way in your tent for the first time, or some other one? If the former, i kinda have it fixed in my mod, it was just a matter of wrong mapping tag on Alistair.

If it's some other one then uhmm, nevermind me

[LadyDamodred]

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

No he wanted his self-esteem gone so he would never be a threat to Cailen. Then the opportunity to use him presented itself, and he changed his tune, because he wants more power. Alistair in his weak ways would make a good puppet for Eamon. That didn't start out as his plan, but I believe that those are his motivations after you revive him.

Yeah, I've always found Eamon's excuses for wanting Alistair on the throne hallow.  I think he uses Alistair as a puppet to indirectly get revenge aganist Loghain for what he did to him and his family.  Eamon seems petty like that.  Eamon also strikes me as someone that would leap at the chance to prove once again that his family had it's hand in saving the day so to speak. 

I'm inept and incompetent so, I can't check myself but I'm curious... does Eamon have dialogue in the Toolset that doesn't show in the game after the coronation?  He seems to hint to Connor being possessed even if the PC didn't go that route. 

For me, he always asks if I've noticed anything strange about the boy, how he seems quiet.  I always say 'consdier what he's been through' and eamon responds with 'you may be right'.  But Connor always grows to be a mage and he goes to Tevinter, so he's not possessed.

[cmessaz]

tmp7704 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

The cutscene kiss is still broken.  I have asked Terra_Ex for help, but he has his own project going on right now (he's fixing Morrigan), so it may be a bit.  I'll wrestle with it some more, but there's a good chance I may not get it. 

Do you mean the "yes dear, lick my ear" cutscene which happens when Alistair begs and grovels his way in your tent for the first time, or some other one? If the former, i kinda have it fixed in my mod, it was just a matter of wrong mapping tag on Alistair.

If it's some other one then uhmm, nevermind me

What mod?

[Commander of the Grey]

I must be doing something wrong. *computer ****** here* I put it in the file but it's not working in creator. The only files in override are toolset export and ts_cut_blentree

[LadyDamodred]

tmp7704 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

The cutscene kiss is still broken.  I have asked Terra_Ex for help, but he has his own project going on right now (he's fixing Morrigan), so it may be a bit.  I'll wrestle with it some more, but there's a good chance I may not get it. 

Do you mean the "yes dear, lick my ear" cutscene which happens when Alistair begs and grovels his way in your tent for the first time, or some other one? If the former, i kinda have it fixed in my mod, it was just a matter of wrong mapping tag on Alistair.

If it's some other one then uhmm, nevermind me

*blinks* What?

The scene we're referring to is when Alistair has high enough approval and in a romance, when you go back to camp, he asks to take you to bed.

[cmessaz]

Alistairschica wrote...

I must be doing something wrong. *computer ****** here* I put it in the file but it's not working in creator. The only files in override are toolset export and ts_cut_blentree

You have too many chargenmorph files in your override folder. Get the chargen compiler from this site, and it will turn them into one and make them work together.

Modifié par cmessaz, 16 avril 2010 - 02:54 .