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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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My theory is that the god baby is actually a girl because the in-game lore says that only female dragons have wings. Archdemon was flying ...

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Gilsa wrote...

My theory is that the god baby is actually a girl because the in-game lore says that only female dragons have wings. Archdemon was flying ...

Good point. So maybe that flying Anora griffin we saw yesterday with Morrigan's features would be closer.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

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 For all we know they've already tried to comfort the PC and are now trying to enjoy their victory and the PC is the one who is still 'Alistair's dead so I have to be miserable' even a month later.


The love of her life died and she's still mourning him a whole month later? Silly girl!

That is a month later?


In Sarah's hypothesis, it is. I don't think it is game.

My point was just, that's not something someone gets past quickly. Sometimes they don't at all.

I'm basing that on the origin character that shows up post-coronation. For, say, Gorim or Cyrion who were already in Denerim then the coronation could have been a week later. But tracking down the DE's origin clan or Fergus would have take time and for Rica to have heard about it and been sent by the Assembly to Denerim? If Dagna's right about it taking two weeks from Orzammar to the Circle Tower and you still need to go a bit farther to hit Denerim, not to mention it probably took more than a day for the Broscas to become warriors and Rica an ambassador...it would probably have to be more than a month for the timing on that to make sense and chances are the coronation took place on the same date no matter which origin you are. And there may have been damage to the palace that needed to be fixed before it was fit to hold a coronation in. Alistair, for one, doesn't seem to think his coronation will be for a few months.

It's understandable that an in-love PC would still be upset but it's slighty more understandable, I think, for the others to have begun to move forward if the coronation was a few weeks or months post-Alistair's death.


For Fergus he says he had recovered and by the time he was trying to find/join you he heard you were already marching to Denerim (he must have been seriously fubared if it took him a dang year to recover his wounds).  And I presume he was heading to Denerim to find you.

Also I foiund it extremely insensitive of the others not to acknowledge what has happened even if it has been a few months. THey will maybe have moved on but if you romanced him, I doubt you would recover that fast.  The least they could hvae done was say SOMEthing...but nothing...

WC is epic EPIC fail.

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Ok, I have more videos, because apparently this is what I do now.

I'm undecided how Idun should turn Alistair's romance on, but here are two sweet possibilities.

You're special to me

I do like you and not because of your blood

I think the latter is more likely what she would say, though she's the most surprised of anyone to be saying that to a human man.

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Which archdemon was this, btw? Was it Urthemiel? That one was Old God of Beauty. Damn my shorthand -- why must I cut corners when I write down info from the game? The remaining archdemons that still live are Razikale (Mystery) and Lusacan (Night).

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I keep telling you people, Avernus! He lived how long with the taint? I'm sure he could think of something!


I always keep him alive now, I used to kill him, but have realized he may be useful. He does agree to experiment humanely.

I've killed him before based on his note that indicates he's experiencing the Calling but resisting.  He could end up a tool of the Architect's.  Though the fact that he can resist represents hope for other Wardens, so I guess that could go either way.

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AnniLau wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

It's understandable that an in-love PC would still be upset but it's slighty more understandable, I think, for the others to have begun to move forward if the coronation was a few weeks or months post-Alistair's death.


I don't know. They'd traveled and fought together for a year+, and been to hell and back in that time. Even if they didn't always like each other, they'd still built an odd sort of 'family'...I don't see the others moving on all that quickly either.

Exactly... they don't act much like Band of Brothers at the end of it all, even to the Warden.

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cmessaz wrote...

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I keep telling you people, Avernus! He lived how long with the taint? I'm sure he could think of something!


I always keep him alive now, I used to kill him, but have realized he may be useful. He does agree to experiment humanely.

Exactly! But he used blood magic on my HN's family, so it is a difficult decision.


I don't think he did, he said the Couslands fought with them, and were killed by the tyrant

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Sarah1281 wrote...
Do they just naturally have twins? We only know that two wardens can't have a child by 'natural means' which still leaves the door open for magic finding a solution to the problem. Your best bet would probably be either Avernus or at least using his research although if the mages were tasked with finding an answer that could work, too.


I could have done that, but I decided the Maker owed them.  ;)  I know it will irritate people, and probably has.  *shrugs*  I'm doing it for fun and try to keep everything else logical and canon-based.  I can't blame people if it upsets them and they decide not to read.  I do stuff like that where I read something, disagree with it and stop reading.  I said when I wrote it that I was aware I was breaking canon.

Who knows?  Maybe one day I will go back and rewrite and change it.

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Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I keep telling you people, Avernus! He lived how long with the taint? I'm sure he could think of something!


I always keep him alive now, I used to kill him, but have realized he may be useful. He does agree to experiment humanely.

Exactly! But he used blood magic on my HN's family, so it is a difficult decision.


I don't think he did, he said the Couslands fought with them, and were killed by the tyrant

He admits to using blood magic on the nobles if you use the right dialogue. I am going to try with my current HN to go that route and see what he says first.

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Addai67 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

It's understandable that an in-love PC would still be upset but it's slighty more understandable, I think, for the others to have begun to move forward if the coronation was a few weeks or months post-Alistair's death.


I don't know. They'd traveled and fought together for a year+, and been to hell and back in that time. Even if they didn't always like each other, they'd still built an odd sort of 'family'...I don't see the others moving on all that quickly either.

Exactly... they don't act much like Band of Brothers at the end of it all, even to the Warden.

It's amazing just how the Warden manages to find the most self-centered people in Thedas to join them on their epic quest.

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He admits to using blood magic on the nobles if you use the right dialogue. I am going to try with my current HN to go that route and see what he says first.


I just did that last night, but not on my Cousland.  He admitted to using blood magic on nobles, and that they met with Teyrn Cousland, but he didn't specifically say he used blood magic on him.  I don't know if that's an extra detail that comes up when you're a HN.

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Wow someone other than me admitted that Anora is actually a good ruler in this thread? lol Why does all the good things happen in my absence??


Be proud. You were successful in spreading a blight almost as bad as the darkspawn taint......:crying::crying:

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Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I keep telling you people, Avernus! He lived how long with the taint? I'm sure he could think of something!


I always keep him alive now, I used to kill him, but have realized he may be useful. He does agree to experiment humanely.

Exactly! But he used blood magic on my HN's family, so it is a difficult decision.


I don't think he did, he said the Couslands fought with them, and were killed by the tyrant

He talks about how he was using blood magic to mind-control the nobles but there were too many and things got unruly.

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Doesn't Avernus say something about having killed Couslands if you point out tht you are one?

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Lady Jess wrote...


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What armor is your PC wearing? It looks awesome!

*wants have*

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Gilsa wrote...

My theory is that the god baby is actually a girl because the in-game lore says that only female dragons have wings. Archdemon was flying ...


Some of the Archdemons are female, though. Or at least they were when they were old gods. Maybe the male gods have to be trannies when they become Dragons:innocent:

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
He admits to using blood magic on the nobles if you use the right dialogue. I am going to try with my current HN to go that route and see what he says first.


I just did that last night, but not on my Cousland.  He admitted to using blood magic on nobles, and that they met with Teyrn Cousland, but he didn't specifically say he used blood magic on him.  I don't know if that's an extra detail that comes up when you're a HN.

That is what I want to find out.

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Doesn't Avernus say something about having killed Couslands if you point out tht you are one?

No Arland's soldiers did.

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He talks about how he was using blood magic to mind-control the nobles but there were too many and things got unruly.


But Avernus did it for the right reasons - he tried to free Ferelden from a tyrant who wasn´t less evil than the one Maric defeated when he drove the Orlaisians out.

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...theeen, he opens his mouth. :innocent:   This was actually a cute dialogue, though, about what Grey Wardens do when there aren't darkspawn around.  Doesn't help his manliness that he suggests he'd sit around knitting socks. LOL  He must not have liked Esra's snark back, however, since I got a -3.


Why do you keep on saying Anders is so unmanly? I don't find him particularly effeminate or anything. I guess I'm just not a fan of the whole gauging manliness thing, since it is so damn arbitrary and especially since that is a commonly used justification for hating Alistair (his "unmanly" character).

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Not sure about Avernus, but I'm pretty sure there's blood magic involved in Steve Valentine's voice acting.  Romance starter lines just click themselves.  I wonder who Bioware had to sacrifice.  Probably some intern.

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Tirigon wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

He talks about how he was using blood magic to mind-control the nobles but there were too many and things got unruly.


But Avernus did it for the right reasons - he tried to free Ferelden from a tyrant who wasn´t less evil than the one Maric defeated when he drove the Orlaisians out.

Mind control is NEVER a good thing. Considering Commander Dryden wasn't that great of a person herself.

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yukidama wrote...

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...theeen, he opens his mouth. :innocent:   This was actually a cute dialogue, though, about what Grey Wardens do when there aren't darkspawn around.  Doesn't help his manliness that he suggests he'd sit around knitting socks. LOL  He must not have liked Esra's snark back, however, since I got a -3.


Why do you keep on saying Anders is so unmanly? I don't find him particularly effeminate or anything. I guess I'm just not a fan of the whole gauging manliness thing, since it is so damn arbitrary and especially since that is a commonly used justification for hating Alistair (his "unmanly" character).

I'm kidding, of course.  But Anders does strike me as more of a girly-man.  Probably it's the cat.

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Addai67 wrote...

Ok, I have more videos, because apparently this is what I do now.

I'm undecided how Idun should turn Alistair's romance on, but here are two sweet possibilities.

You're special to me

I do like you and not because of your blood

I think the latter is more likely what she would say, though she's the most surprised of anyone to be saying that to a human man.


Awww, the "you're special to me" makes me all gooey inside...