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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Merilsell

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Ahh, I think you got me wrong. I happen to like good original scenarios the game cannot catch, it's rather the butchering of characters or silly plots that wants to make me go RAAAAAWR all along ;)

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sylvanaerie wrote...


I don't, I just think such things are a waste of time. If I actually write a story I want to put on the internet I am going to try to stick with the established lore (Like my mage isn't going to suddenly convince the nobles at the landsmeet she should be queen).  If someone wants to write something like that more power to them, I just find such garbage fics a waste of my time to read (IE I don't enjoy them).


Bad example, because it is so easy to achieve that without breaking game lore. Bloodmage mind control, anyone?:devil:

I actually wish this option would have been in the game to start with.

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Merilsell wrote...

Writing a play-through fic (I'm probably one of few people who is doing that with the Dalish origin. I've never seen a COMPLETED playthrough-fic with Mahariel after all), I'm naturally bounded to the original plot in some kind of way, but I take a lot of liberties and add scenes. Still it is important to me that the story and chars stays believable, and true to the original in some kind of way. Otherwise it's not a FF anymore, but an original story who happens to have familiar names and places.

Though, to each their own, I guess.


I'll get my Mahariel play-through fic done eventually, and then there will be two of us!  *high fives*  Is it bad that I find it so much easier to write this fic than the thesis I'm supposed to be working on?  *goes back to work*

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
I think anything other than the hardening response, but he has to be at love to get it. It's ADORABLE.  He says "Before we go any further, I just want to say that you've been a true friend and....I love you." He says it in this way like he's lettting you think he means just as a friend if that's all you want it to mean but gosh he hopes you know he means that he really loves you - I'd love to know what the toolset VOs are here, actually.


AL:  "You're a true friend and I... love you. I just... wanted to tell you that."
VO:  fumbling, awkward -- he doesn't know how to say this well so he's just going to say it
PC:  "I love you, too."
AL:  Well! Now that that's out of the way...
VO:  a bit embarrassed but also very pelased

Aww.  :wub:


I know, huh?  I really wish the game allowed you get some of these dialogues with a hardened Alistair.  Is it really so absurd to think you can both comfort him adn tell him people suck?

Sandtigress:  You are quite welcome.


Hence why I just do it twice.  :-P

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sylvanaerie

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Tirigon wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...


I don't, I just think such things are a waste of time. If I actually write a story I want to put on the internet I am going to try to stick with the established lore (Like my mage isn't going to suddenly convince the nobles at the landsmeet she should be queen).  If someone wants to write something like that more power to them, I just find such garbage fics a waste of my time to read (IE I don't enjoy them).


Bad example, because it is so easy to achieve that without breaking game lore. Bloodmage mind control, anyone?:devil:

I actually wish this option would have been in the game to start with.


yes but then that would entail following those nobles around and making sure they don't come to their senses. No where in game lore does it say you can get away with that with blood magic.  Even Avernus says they couldn't push too hard.  And sooner or later chantry would be all over the nobles who were controlled, and the erstwhile queen for using it.  Blood magic is powerful but its not God Mode powerful and its no good if the Templars coming after her cleave her head from her shoulders with cold hard steel. They are BUILT to resist/dispel those kinds of magics.
Also I wasn't talking about a Blood Mage in the first place, just giving an example of how being a mage/elf/dwarf would break game lore if you declare yourself (instead of Alistair or Anora) as queen.

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RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! I'm so annoyed right now. Why is the only decent AW armor mod determined to make me look like a fancy marshmallow.


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Even then, I think it doesn´t make sense that you as saviour of Ferelden can´t rule only because you´re not human or are a mage.



The fact that Alistair doesn´t agree to make you his queen even when you´re at 100 love is probably the most assclowny move he makes in the whole game anyways....

After all, even Maric considered making an elf his queen.....

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sylvanaerie

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okay if you want to think that way, Tirigon more power to you. I'm tired of arguing over it. To each his own.

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Tirigon wrote...

Even then, I think it doesn´t make sense that you as saviour of Ferelden can´t rule only because you´re not human or are a mage.

The fact that Alistair doesn´t agree to make you his queen even when you´re at 100 love is probably the most assclowny move he makes in the whole game anyways....
After all, even Maric considered making an elf his queen.....

That was naive on his part and Katriel knew it couldn't be. You can have a lot of power as the Hero of Ferelden. You can be Teyrn and even the defacto ruler as chancellor to solo unhardened Alistair. You cannot, however, be the conosrt whose main duty is to help the regent have a baby. For one thing, the baby would be a half-dwarf, probably a mage, or elven blood and no one would accept that as the heir.

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Tirigon wrote...

Even then, I think it doesn´t make sense that you as saviour of Ferelden can´t rule only because you´re not human or are a mage.

The fact that Alistair doesn´t agree to make you his queen even when you´re at 100 love is probably the most assclowny move he makes in the whole game anyways....
After all, even Maric considered making an elf his queen.....


I could see an elf queen long before a mage queen. Mages are feared and reviled by the general populace, there is no way the Chantry would allow a mage to become queen and have access to that much power. I find it slightly implausible that they allow a mage to be Chancellor.

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Sandtigress wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Writing a play-through fic (I'm probably one of few people who is doing that with the Dalish origin. I've never seen a COMPLETED playthrough-fic with Mahariel after all), I'm naturally bounded to the original plot in some kind of way, but I take a lot of liberties and add scenes. Still it is important to me that the story and chars stays believable, and true to the original in some kind of way. Otherwise it's not a FF anymore, but an original story who happens to have familiar names and places.

Though, to each their own, I guess.


I'll get my Mahariel play-through fic done eventually, and then there will be two of us!  *high fives*  Is it bad that I find it so much easier to write this fic than the thesis I'm supposed to be working on?  *goes back to work*


Yeah, high five and yay for two long and complete Mahariel DA:O -FF then. :o I have seen a lot had begun to write one, but most are giving up in the middle. Meh.

Even if it takes me years -lol- I'll finish my novel-length FF also, no doubt. I didn't plot all the way just to leave it unfinished half-way through. It's just I'm such a slow writer and it will take me ages to get to all the juicy, and evil stuff :devil: I have already finished planning in my head. Sigh. I probably should stop lingering around here in the forum and start writing on, I guess. :ph34r: *ponders how long her beta reader will need to correct the actual chapter to get it finally online*

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I'm sure y'all have seen this, but it made me smile something awful. :D



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SurelyForth wrote...

I could see an elf queen long before a mage queen. Mages are feared and reviled by the general populace, there is no way the Chantry would allow a mage to become queen and have access to that much power. I find it slightly implausible that they allow a mage to be Chancellor.


Maybe my mage PC should ask the High Cleric if she wants to preach the Archdemon to death then, if magic is so evil a mage can´t marry her lover even after saving the country and stopping the blight?

Considering that the king / queen has the power to free the circle from the chantry I don´t see why they shouldn´t be able to marry a mage then.

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The advantages of a male PC vs female are readily apparent.  I get to stare at this the whole time I am playing.  I would play more males if I didn't have to trade off not flirting with Teagan.  Though that Bella kiss is totally worth it!Posted Image  Now I wanna do Redcliffe and I am not ready yet...Though if yall want I will post pics when i do!Posted Image

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Tirigon wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

I could see an elf queen long before a mage queen. Mages are feared and reviled by the general populace, there is no way the Chantry would allow a mage to become queen and have access to that much power. I find it slightly implausible that they allow a mage to be Chancellor.


Maybe my mage PC should ask the High Cleric if she wants to preach the Archdemon to death then, if magic is so evil a mage can´t marry her lover even after saving the country and stopping the blight?

Considering that the king / queen has the power to free the circle from the chantry I don´t see why they shouldn´t be able to marry a mage then.

Awakening showed it's really not as easy as all that and once you save the country no one needs you anymore so unless you want to be a former hero like Loghain then don't push your luck.

#33841
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Woa sylvanaerie you actually managed to get a good-looking human! And it´s even a man! I utterly fail at accomplishing that....

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Needless to say, my first encounter with teh High Dragon on the PC did not go well.....

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Tirigon wrote...

Maybe my mage PC should ask the High Cleric if she wants to preach the Archdemon to death then, if magic is so evil a mage can´t marry her lover even after saving the country and stopping the blight?

Considering that the king / queen has the power to free the circle from the chantry I don´t see why they shouldn´t be able to marry a mage then.

To be fair, if the mage requests to be made ruler of the country after saving it, this does raise pretty valid concerns about their possible motives for that saving in the first place.

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Tirigon wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

I could see an elf queen long before a mage queen. Mages are feared and reviled by the general populace, there is no way the Chantry would allow a mage to become queen and have access to that much power. I find it slightly implausible that they allow a mage to be Chancellor.


Maybe my mage PC should ask the High Cleric if she wants to preach the Archdemon to death then, if magic is so evil a mage can´t marry her lover even after saving the country and stopping the blight?

Considering that the king / queen has the power to free the circle from the chantry I don´t see why they shouldn´t be able to marry a mage then.


I think we've got to talk stepping stones here.  You can ask Alistair/Anora to free the circle, but that doesn't mean they're going to be able to do so immediately, or at all.  We certainly don't see any difference in the 6 months-1 year later that Awakening occurs.  And even should the Chantry eventually this, having some freedom to the Circle is an entirely different matter from having a mage be ruler of the country.

I imagine that even having an elf/mage as arl(essa) of Amaranthine/ teyrna of Gwaren/ chancellor would have most people in a fit of apoplexy - having someone that most consider scum of the earth in a ruling position is likely to upset all sorts of people.  Dwarves might have it a bit easier as they're an oddity, but not really considered a lower class, but an elf or a mage or Maker forbid an elven mage???

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Awakening showed it's really not as easy as all that and once you save the country no one needs you anymore so unless you want to be a former hero like Loghain then don't push your luck.


True, true.
Makes you wonder why you risked your life for that bunch of ungrateful bastards to start with.
I guess unless you´re playing a human noble you should just grab Alistair and your other lovers and be off to somewhere else. Antiva sounds nice, and I always wanted to see Val Royeaux anyways.

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Mel_Redux wrote...

Needless to say, my first encounter with teh High Dragon on the PC did not go well.....
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ROFLMAO!!!  thats funny as hell!!

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sylvanaerie wrote...

The advantages of a male PC vs female are readily apparent.  I get to stare at this the whole time I am playing.  I would play more males if I didn't have to trade off not flirting with Teagan.  Though that Bella kiss is totally worth it!Posted Image  Now I wanna do Redcliffe and I am not ready yet...Though if yall want I will post pics when i do!Posted Image

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Your PC is hot, syl.  *is jealous*

Did you create him yourself, or is he based on a custom morph?

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janeym27 wrote...

I'm sure y'all have seen this, but it made me smile something awful. :D

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Oh, I love that one. It also reminds me of one of the funniest fanfic I saw a long time ago (can't remember who/where), but it was a tongue-in-cheek fic of a Cousland and the scene was when Cousland ran into the mom and Lady what's-her-name along with her son. "You remember my son, don't you? *wink wink*" And the funny reply was, "I'm saving myself for Alistair." The vibe was the same as the comic above so I enjoy that kind of sarcasm. =p

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tmp7704 wrote...

To be fair, if the mage requests to be made ruler of the country after saving it, this does raise pretty valid concerns about their possible motives for that saving in the first place.


And they´re valid enough. Unless you´re RPing a selfless person a mage or elf has very little reason to save the Fereldans other than the hope to improve the situation for his class / race.

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Miri1984 wrote...

 I have an Anders now, so I have to use it:

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He's grumpy because I dissed his cat, no doubt.  LOL

I just feel badly for the poor kitty, for one thing.  Anders is gettng hit with all these spells and arrows and getting darkspawn filth splattered all over him.  It's one thing for him to get hit with a Crushing Prison, but a little kitten...?  :?


Alistair shifty-eyes.  I think he's trying not to look at Idun's boobs.  No easy task when she insists on wearing the J-Lo robe.

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