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[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
I don't think it will stop bigots but it might prevent bigots from thinking they can get away with murdering the freaking bann.

Because you think Anora is all like "Oh sure go ahead and kill a bann I personally appointed"?
 
And let's be honest here. Who is more intimidating? Alistair? Or Anora Mac Tic? Please. If she or Bhelen are not  perfect deterrents, then there is no way Alistair can pul this off.

I'm not saying Alistair is more intimidating or Anora would let them get away with it but if the years show that Anora doesn't really care about giving them more rights and Alistair does and takes more of an interest, then a bigot would see a better outcome for their actions under Anora. Unless, of course, there was alcohol involved in which case it really doesn't matter what else happens.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...
 You might as well not bother asking for anything but the teynir or chancellorship.

Chancellorship with Alistair as king. That means you can do whatever you bloody want. Much more efficient than relying on the competence of others.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
I don't think it will stop bigots but it might prevent bigots from thinking they can get away with murdering the freaking bann.

Because you think Anora is all like "Oh sure go ahead and kill a bann I personally appointed"?
 
And let's be honest here. Who is more intimidating? Alistair? Or Anora Mac Tic? Please. If she or Bhelen are not  perfect deterrents, then there is no way Alistair can pul this off.

I'm not saying Alistair is more intimidating or Anora would let them get away with it but if the years show that Anora doesn't really care about giving them more rights and Alistair does and takes more of an interest, then a bigot would see a better outcome for their actions under Anora. Unless, of course, there was alcohol involved in which case it really doesn't matter what else happens.

I would say it's atually quite the contrary. A prejudice becomes even more radicalised when it's under threat. 

A bigot who hates the elves has a lot more reasons to be angry with the situation if Alistair is king, since he is promoting them, than with Anora. An act like this assassination is clearly that of desperation, not of benefit or better outcome. And I think Alistair actively promoting the elves would create even more desperation for whoever that bigot is. Hence why relying on murder.   
 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 01 juin 2010 - 02:58 .

[AnniLau]

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

[mellifera]

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[tmp7704]

Sarah1281 wrote...

You might as well not bother asking for anything but the teynir or chancellorship.

My CE said she's going to think about it first which basically results in the boon being postponed/called off by the looks of it. Quite happy with it as ending really -- her father taught her well not to draw more attention to herself than necessary... and if getting a named Bann for Alienage results in stoning and riots i'm afraid to imagine how well handing whole teynir to an elf would fly.

[tmp7704]

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

Modifié par tmp7704, 01 juin 2010 - 03:02 .

[LadyDamodred]

Sarah1281 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

I am going to agree with KoP on this, but for the reasons I stated above. Naming an elf a bann infuriated people. At that point, no amount of charisma and charm is going to help. It's only when you don't give people a reason to hate on elves more than the differences between how Alistair and Anora handle the situation becomes evident.

Alistair and Anora really suck at granting boons, don't they? They were already planning on giving the Dalish land, restoring Highever, and giving Amaranthine to the Wardens. They can't actaully carry out freeing the mages and when all a poor CE wants is fair treatment they go and make things worse. And do actually ask before sending an army to Orzammar in case Harrowmont decides to be a moron and vetoes them? You might as well not bother asking for anything but the teynir or chancellorship.

It does seem really poorly done, doesn't it?

I don't know.  Some of the things strike me as really odd.  Like asking for Gwaren when you're going to be queen or king.  That seems really unfair to the people of Gwaren to have an absent ruler.  My HNs always ask for the Grey Wardens to be remembered, but it's kind of useless as it happens anyway, like the Dalish boon.

What would have been nice is if all these things happen, but requesting the boon gives it a little something extra.

KoP:  I am sad that you didn't at least give me a cookie for agreeing with you. 

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 01 juin 2010 - 03:04 .

[mellifera]

tmp7704 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

Reminds me of Mr. Sardonicus...

(linked as to not give some people nightmares without warning)

[AnniLau]

tmp7704 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

It ate his lips first?

[Sarah1281]

yukidama wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

Reminds me of Mr. Sardonicus...

(linked as to not give some people nightmares without warning)

Okay, what the hell was that?!?! 

[KnightofPhoenix]

LadyDamodred wrote...
 Like asking for Gwaren when you're going to be queen or king.  That seems really unfair to the people of Gwaren to have an absent ruler. 

Loghain was Teyrn of Gwaren and he spent most of the time in Denerim. Howe was the Arl of Amaranthine, Teyrn of  Highever and he spend most of the time in Denerim as well. So it's not uncommon. In the absence of the Teyrn, the Senechal takes over.
Arcturus does plan to go visit Gwaren every once and a while (and make sure Fergus' offspring would inherit the Ternir).

LadyDamodred wrote...
KoP:  I am sad that you didn't at least give me a cookie for agreeing with you. 

Agreeing with the truth is its own reward, I thought you were a teacher
Ok ok, have a cookie! And a sticker.

[mellifera]

Sarah1281 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

Reminds me of Mr. Sardonicus...

(linked as to not give some people nightmares without warning)

Okay, what the hell was that?!?! 

Mr. Sardonicus is a 1961 horror
film produced and directed by William Castle. It tells the story of Sardonicus, a man whose face becomes frozen in a horrifying grin while robbing his father's grave to obtain a winning lottery ticket. He tries to force a doctor to cure him, but eventually dies when he can no longer eat or drink...To achieve Sardonicus's terrible grin, actor Guy Rolfe was subjected to five separate facial appliance fittings. He could not physically stand to wear the piece for more than an hour at a time.

http://en.wikipedia..../Mr._Sardonicus

Modifié par yukidama, 01 juin 2010 - 03:13 .

[LadyDamodred]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
 Like asking for Gwaren when you're going to be queen or king.  That seems really unfair to the people of Gwaren to have an absent ruler. 

Loghain was Teyrn of Gwaren and he spent most of the time in Denerim. Howe was the Arl of Amaranthine, Teyrn of  Highever and he spend most of the time in Denerim as well. So it's not uncommon. In the absence of the Teyrn, the Senechal takes over.
Arcturus does plan to go visit Gwaren every once and a while (and make sure Fergus' offspring would inherit the Ternir).

LadyDamodred wrote...
KoP:  I am sad that you didn't at least give me a cookie for agreeing with you. 

Agreeing with the truth is its own reward, I thought you were a teacher
Ok ok, have a cookie! And a sticker.

Ooooh, shiny!  *noms*  You have no idea how well stickers work with kids.  It's kind of sad, really.

I think it's b/c coming from Highever, my HNs see it as being a bad teyrn if you're absent most of the time.  We're good stewards of our lands, damnit!

[tmp7704]

AnniLau wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I'm disturbed by this image, tmp.

I also have actual screenshot of Alistair making this face as he slays the Archdemon...

It ate his lips first?

Well, either that or he was just really angry about his haircut

[Lady Jess]

The good news is, Leliana and I BOTH have hair now. The bad news is...I don't like sharing.





And...apparently the fade really is bursting from Wynne's arse...





But this makes it all better...

[KnightofPhoenix]

LadyDamodred wrote...
I think it's b/c coming from Highever, my HNs see it as being a bad teyrn if you're absent most of the time.  We're good stewards of our lands, damnit!

I think it's mostly the fear of being absorbed fully into Ferelden, that makes the Couslands remain in Highever.
 
Notice how the human noble is asked to remain in Highever and not join the army. I think it's largely because of that.  

[ejoslin]

tmp7704 wrote...

Well, either that or he was just really angry about his haircut

Cullenstair?

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 juin 2010 - 03:15 .

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

The good news is, Leliana and I BOTH have hair now. The bad news is...I don't like sharing.

 Oh, I like that armor. And it looks like Ines was right after all. I always did like her.

[KnightofPhoenix]

ejoslin wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Well, either that or he was just really angry about his haircut

Cullenstair?

Torturing a poor mage.

[tmp7704]

ejoslin wrote...

Cullenstair?

Technically it's Conceptartstair but it seems to be popular haircut for the Templars, aye.

[Lady Jess]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

I am going to agree with KoP on this, but for the reasons I stated above. Naming an elf a bann infuriated people. At that point, no amount of charisma and charm is going to help. It's only when you don't give people a reason to hate on elves more than the differences between how Alistair and Anora handle the situation becomes evident.

Alistair and Anora really suck at granting boons, don't they? They were already planning on giving the Dalish land, restoring Highever, and giving Amaranthine to the Wardens. They can't actaully carry out freeing the mages and when all a poor CE wants is fair treatment they go and make things worse. And do actually ask before sending an army to Orzammar in case Harrowmont decides to be a moron and vetoes them? You might as well not bother asking for anything but the teynir or chancellorship.

It does seem really poorly done, doesn't it?

I don't know.  Some of the things strike me as really odd.  Like asking for Gwaren when you're going to be queen or king.  That seems really unfair to the people of Gwaren to have an absent ruler.  My HNs always ask for the Grey Wardens to be remembered, but it's kind of useless as it happens anyway, like the Dalish boon.

What would have been nice is if all these things happen, but requesting the boon gives it a little something extra.

KoP:  I am sad that you didn't at least give me a cookie for agreeing with you. 

I was actually thinking with Jaina, I'd take the Gwaren boon. Not for the title, or the power, but so she and Zevran can have something neither of them ever had...a home, a place to call their own. She'd still return to the wardens, but they'd always have somewhere to go back to.

[LadyDamodred]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
I think it's b/c coming from Highever, my HNs see it as being a bad teyrn if you're absent most of the time.  We're good stewards of our lands, damnit!

I think it's mostly the fear of being absorbed fully into Ferelden, that makes the Couslands remain in Highever.
 
Notice how the human noble is asked to remain in Highever and not join the army. I think it's largely because of that.  

Well, to be fair, the teyrn and his heir are going.  It makes sense that your parents don't want to risk both heirs in a single battle.

[LadyDamodred]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Well, either that or he was just really angry about his haircut

Cullenstair?

Torturing a poor mage.

*looks at cmess's mage Gaia*

*coughs uncomfortably*

[KnightofPhoenix]

tmp7704 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Cullenstair?

Technically it's Conceptartstair but it seems to be popular haircut for the Templars, aye.

Eum...he doesn't quite look like that



Which looks badass btw, I wish Alistair turned out like that.