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[cmessaz]

LadyDamodred wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

And vice-versa.  *shrugs*  I can accept the limitation of the game in this manner.  If people really don't like, just rp that Loghain is taken away and gets all executey right after the landsmeet.

Problem solved!

[SurelyForth]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

This is game mechanics, and not a function of Alistair's lack of concern for her or her father. There's no difference in the cutscene depending on who kills her, so it's not like he is demanding she stay so he can give her a hemoshower.

[Tirigon]

cmessaz wrote...

Well I think we have to agree to disagree here, I guess it depends on how you play. I killed the high dragon by myself. And there is a friendly fire eliminating mod, if you want I can find a link.

I´d appreciate this. Friendly Fire is very annoying.

[cmessaz]

Kryyptehk wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
I thought it was evil until I did it. I planned to reload but this is one of the rare instances where the dialogue options were good. I was able to RP it. It would totally depend on my character. Remember the GW are charged with the blight and will do whatever is necessary. The werewolves kicked serious butt at the final battle.

You can't really know that they will follow through on their promise to help, however.  Whereas the treaty between the GWs and the Dalish has lasted for hundreds of years, the werewolves are only one small band versus many Dalish clans.  If the GWs are going to undertake murderous genocide to end the Blight, it should at least make sense.

They ask you what you want for helping and you say aid against the blight. It makes sense, Zatriene cursed how many generations of humans because of his hatred. I again am not saying this is right or wrong, but I can RP it either way. I don't enjoy playing through the game a thousand times the same way each time.

I'm different because I always strive for "the perfect character". Not to mention I tend to take breaks from games and when I come back, I usually go with my first decisions.

I can't play through the same way each time. I would be bored out of my mind. It is a really cool scene, I have a harder time justifying killing Connor than killing the Dalish. His mother is willing to die so why should I kill a child?

I tend to put my feelings into the game too much. I could probably kill the Dalish (because I effing hate that particular tribe) but I couldn't kill Connor. Luckily, they offered Isolde as a sacrifice so if I make a character not willing to go to the Mage Tower, they just kill Isolde.

I will probably never kill Connor again. I did it once to say I did.

[Addai]

cmessaz wrote...
They ask you what you want for helping and you say aid against the blight. It makes sense, Zatriene cursed how many generations of humans because of his hatred. I again am not saying this is right or wrong, but I can RP it either way. I don't enjoy playing through the game a thousand times the same way each time.

I could maybe understand it if it was just killing Zathrian, though that would not end the curse so the humans would be stuck in their suffering anyway.  But killing his whole clan for what he did?  And it's not even a case where things just get out of control.  You have to propose such a thing first, and the werewolves look at you like you're crazy at first.  Even they were only infecting Zathrian's people in order to force his hand.  "Hey let's just kill them all"...  that's not just ruthless, it's mindlessly ruthless.

I do understand about wanting variety, but certain things won't ever make sense to me unless I decide to RP a sociopath.

[Lady Jess]

Kryyptehk wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

People care about Anora's feelings?

I must be de-sensitized to violence (which is funny, considering I can't watch overly-violent movies) but it didn't strike me that they killed Loghain in front of his daughter and it got blood on her. My biggest issue was thinking thar Ferelden has a crappy justice system.

One day away from barbarism indeed.

My Cousland only had a problem with it. Because her father laid bleeding before HER eyes and she may hate Anora, but wishes that one noone. In my stalled fic she actually holds some resentment and guilt about that moment to work through.

[cmessaz]

Tirigon wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Well I think we have to agree to disagree here, I guess it depends on how you play. I killed the high dragon by myself. And there is a friendly fire eliminating mod, if you want I can find a link.

I´d appreciate this. Friendly Fire is very annoying.

Spell shaping

Modifié par cmessaz, 01 juin 2010 - 06:15 .

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

This is game mechanics, and not a function of Alistair's lack of concern for her or her father. There's no difference in the cutscene depending on who kills her, so it's not like he is demanding she stay so he can give her a hemoshower.

And no one's chaining Anora in the room.

[Lady Jess]

Tirigon wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Well I think we have to agree to disagree here, I guess it depends on how you play. I killed the high dragon by myself. And there is a friendly fire eliminating mod, if you want I can find a link.

I´d appreciate this. Friendly Fire is very annoying.

It is, and I'll probably kill all of Redcliffe's militia...lol but...ya know, it happens.

[Serissia]

I'm sorry but every time Loghain's blood splatters all over Anora I has lulz. I can't stand her. It's probably an irrational hatred too.  Seeing the More Options in the Pearl scenes with her made me throw up in my mouth a little.

Modifié par Serissia, 01 juin 2010 - 06:16 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

SurelyForth wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

This is game mechanics, and not a function of Alistair's lack of concern for her or her father. There's no difference in the cutscene depending on who kills her, so it's not like he is demanding she stay so he can give her a hemoshower.

Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

And no one's chaining Anora in the room.

"Oh you want to kill my father? Ok sure, but can you please wait till I go outside? Because you know, I would rather not watch this".

Yes, this is as stupid as it sounds.

[Serissia]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

If Alistair's head was severed and it rolled across the floor then the camera panned in to show a horrorfied Eamon it might actually make me hate Eamon less.

Modifié par Serissia, 01 juin 2010 - 06:20 .

[LadyDamodred]

Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

This is game mechanics, and not a function of Alistair's lack of concern for her or her father. There's no difference in the cutscene depending on who kills her, so it's not like he is demanding she stay so he can give her a hemoshower.

And no one's chaining Anora in the room.

Well, I would lose a lot of respect for her if she left.  And my HNF should feel bad at that point, but she's not at a very good place at that point.  :/  She will feel bad after.

[Lady Jess]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

And no one's chaining Anora in the room.

"Oh you want to kill my father? Ok sure, but can you please wait till I go outside? Because you know, I would rather not watch this".

Yes, this is as stupid as it sounds.

I'll give her credit here. She knew all along this was a possibility, she'll even tell you that if you ask her at Eamons (though telling her at that point that you DO intend to kill him is a good way to get backstabbed), Yet she stays with him through it. That's pretty strong.

[ejoslin]

Serissia wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

If Alistair's head was severed from his head and rolled across the floor and the panned in to show a horrorfied Eamon it might actually make me hate Eamon less.

I would bet anything there would be no horrified Eamon.  It's not like he tries to talk Anora out of Alistair's execution -- that would hurt his chances of becoming her chancellor after all.

Edit: Is it safe to hate on Eamon here?

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 juin 2010 - 06:21 .

[SurelyForth]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

The problem I have with this is that Alistair has committed no crimes besides being born (it doesn't seem that the Wardens have any real policy against desertion). Loghain has been found guilty and is being punished, either by execution or recruitment into the Wardens. Alistair will swear fealty and can still be executed.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 01 juin 2010 - 06:21 .

[Tirigon]

cmessaz wrote...

Spell shaping

Thanks a lot! would you by any chance know whether this is compatible with Combat Tweaks? Unfortunately the description says nothing about that.

[LadyDamodred]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

This is game mechanics, and not a function of Alistair's lack of concern for her or her father. There's no difference in the cutscene depending on who kills her, so it's not like he is demanding she stay so he can give her a hemoshower.

Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

Hush you.  *writes MorriganxAlistair fanfic in retribution*

[Tirigon]

Lady Jess wrote...


It is, and I'll probably kill all of Redcliffe's militia...lol but...ya know, it happens.

If it would happen for scattershot and dual weapon sweep and stuff like that I wouldn´t mind. But if swords can avoid hurting my allies a spell should do the sameB)

[Serissia]

ejoslin wrote...
I would bet anything there would be no horrified Eamon.  It's not like he tries to talk Anora out of Alistair's execution -- that would hurt his chances of becoming her chancellor after all.

Edit: Is it safe to hate on Eamon here?

I hate Eamon openly. 

[LadyDamodred]

ejoslin wrote...

Serissia wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

If Alistair's head was severed from his head and rolled across the floor and the panned in to show a horrorfied Eamon it might actually make me hate Eamon less.

I would bet anything there would be no horrified Eamon.  It's not like he tries to talk Anora out of Alistair's execution -- that would hurt his chances of becoming her chancellor after all.

Edit: Is it safe to hate on Eamon here?

Yes, it is.  Some people hate Eamon, some like him.  And some are like me where the hate waxes and wanes.

[Tirigon]

ejoslin wrote...


Edit: Is it safe to hate on Eamon here?

I´m hardly representative, but be assured I´ll stand by your side and defend our rightful hate for this **** Eamon!

[KnightofPhoenix]

SurelyForth wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Well now I wish those game mechanics were the same when Alistair's execution is ordered.

Actually no, Arcturus' sword cutting off his head would be too good for him.

The problem I have with this is that Alistair has committed no crimes besides being born (it doesn't seem that the Wardens have any real policy against desertion). Loghain has been found guilty and is being punished, either by execution or recruitment into the Wardens. Alistair will swear fealty and can still be executed.

Alistair's crime is desertion of the army Arcturus and not him built and is leading. Anora's reasons are irrelevent, it's my PC who validated the execution. If Alistair was man enough to not abandon the fight, he would have never called for his execution. Because he doesn't betray his friends like that that's first. Second because Alsitair is too insignificant to be any threat to his power.

[sylvanaerie]

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I DO enjoy killing him, I just wish there were an option to take her from the room before you do it.  Its brutal in front of her and having daddy's blood splash all over her.

Yes well, apparently the "rightful" king of Ferelden doesn't give a **** about her feelings. Or anyone's really.  

And vice-versa.  *shrugs*  I can accept the limitation of the game in this manner.  If people really don't like, just rp that Loghain is taken away and gets all executey right after the landsmeet.

Problem solved!

YEA I like that!
Shield Slam, running out of dismemberment shots..

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 01 juin 2010 - 06:29 .