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[Tirigon]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But if anyone was actually aroused by this, and does something while watching it, then that would be disturbing and I would advise them to either get a life, or find actual pron sites.

Do actual pron sites have Lady of the forest?

[Axekix]

Addai67 wrote...

As for being king, yes it does take the whole game for him to get used to the idea.  Because he spent 20 years being told he wasn't going to ever be king and to get the idea out of his head.  You're just supposed to switch on a dime and say "oh, ok"?  A highly ambitious person might, but that's not Alistair (thankfully not).

"Thankfully?"  Why do you say that?
 

If you just don't like his personality, that's fine.  Stand back and let the thousands of women swoon.  While we're doing that, you can tell yourself to "man up" and not be jealous. 

[Kryyptehk]

Axekix wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

I've never really bought into the game mechanic argument (ie, the PC hasto control the game so Alistair is made a pushover by default).  They could have written him in as a new recruit just like the PC if they had wished.  Instead they made a conscious effort to make him the senior warden who turns over leadership to you.  I think it makes the intent that much stronger.

Senior Warden? By what? Six month experience? Lol, that is not much time by any means to make him to the uber-Warden, who knows everything. And supposingily intended by Gaider. How should that have worked with two total newbies? Not that Alistair is experienced as a Warden by any means. Remember, in Ostagar Alistair tells you that he has encountered Darkspawn exactly once and that Duncan kept him mostly out of the line. So while he is still a greenhorn just like you, you as the player need someone who knows a bit about the Grey Warden and what it means to be one. Hence the six month "experience."

Game mechanics are your friend

6 months is still 6 months more than the PC, and that's 6 months under Duncan himself, compared to the 1 day the PC has?  I think the argument stands.

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

[Axekix]

Kryyptehk wrote...

I am definitely not surprised about the fact that you have been punched by a woman before.

Such vitriol!  How many gifts is it going to take to get your approval back up?

[Sandtigress]

Axekix wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

I've never really bought into the game mechanic argument (ie, the PC hasto control the game so Alistair is made a pushover by default).  They could have written him in as a new recruit just like the PC if they had wished.  Instead they made a conscious effort to make him the senior warden who turns over leadership to you.  I think it makes the intent that much stronger.

Senior Warden? By what? Six month experience? Lol, that is not much time by any means to make him to the uber-Warden, who knows everything. And supposingily intended by Gaider. How should that have worked with two total newbies? Not that Alistair is experienced as a Warden by any means. Remember, in Ostagar Alistair tells you that he has encountered Darkspawn exactly once and that Duncan kept him mostly out of the line. So while he is still a greenhorn just like you, you as the player need someone who knows a bit about the Grey Warden and what it means to be one. Hence the six month "experience."

Game mechanics are your friend

6 months is still 6 months more than the PC, and that's 6 months under Duncan himself, compared to the 1 day the PC has?  I think the argument stands.

Um, it took me YEARS as a grad student to not feel like a total newb and to be even remotely comfortable operating equipment and what not by myself.  Six months in a position is nothing.

Most likely, Duncan was gone for a good portion of those six months recruiting (Daveth in Denerim, Jory in Highever, and then wherever the heck you are as the PC) and even if he were there, why would Alistair get personal attention from the Commander of the Grey when he's a green recruit?  I would expect him to be handed to another Warden's keeping, with occasional access to Duncan, but not unlimited.

The PC shows willingness to take over (game mechanics) and Alistair, having basically only more textbook knowledge of the Grey Wardens than you have, is willing to let you do that since he has no strong feelings about what to do.  I see nothing unreasonable about that.

Had it been up to my HNF, they would have sat there staring at each other in the Korcari Wilds because she did NOT want to be a Grey Warden.  I imagine Morrigan had to give them both swift kicks to the rear to get them going, and it basically wound down to "You make the decision" "No, you!".

[Kryyptehk]

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I am definitely not surprised about the fact that you have been punched by a woman before.

Such vitriol!  How many gifts is it going to take to get your approval back up?

A working block button would be nice<_<

[Axekix]

Kryyptehk wrote...

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

Well the point is specifically that he has no confidence in his leadership.

[Tirigon]

Kryyptehk wrote...

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

Don´t forget this is a medieval setting. That means, the leader is the one who is best at kicking ass. Your PC is probably better than Ali at that.

[Sandtigress]

Serissia wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
Yes, if you initiate the tent with him, then in place of his tent invite you get that confession.

Right after or later on?  I haven't not let him lead in ages.

The confession comes whenever he hits love, next time you enter camp.

[Merilsell]

[Lady Jess]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I am definitely not surprised about the fact that you have been punched by a woman before.

Such vitriol!  How many gifts is it going to take to get your approval back up?

A working block button would be nice<_<

That never works, even if you block him, you'll see all the replies he gets...sigh.

[Kryyptehk]

Sandtigress wrote...

Serissia wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
Yes, if you initiate the tent with him, then in place of his tent invite you get that confession.

Right after or later on?  I haven't not let him lead in ages.

The confession comes whenever he hits love, next time you enter camp.

I didn't really like the confession more than I liked the him iniating thing. I think it is much more cute.

[Axekix]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I am definitely not surprised about the fact that you have been punched by a woman before.

Such vitriol!  How many gifts is it going to take to get your approval back up?

A working block button would be nice<_<

Aww, I guess we're both out of luck then.  Shame.

[Serissia]

Kryyptehk wrote...
I didn't really like the confession more than I liked the him iniating thing. I think it is much more cute.

Yeah, I like to let him lead.  I wanna see it in the Toolset though. 

[Sandtigress]

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

Well the point is specifically that he has no confidence in his leadership.

Annnnnd if you spent years sleeping in the stables and with dogs and having it beaten into your head that you're a commoner whose not worthy to take the throne and that the only reason you're alive is because your father had a fling with a random woman.....wouldn't you?

[Merilsell]

Lol, high five Sandti. I was about to write the same thing

[mellifera]

Oh, whatever. The reason I came to this thread is because I was sick of this exact damn argument about him in every other damn place. It's really annoying now. I like Alistair, he is my favorite character in the game and I am sick of all this already.

[Kryyptehk]

Lady Jess wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I am definitely not surprised about the fact that you have been punched by a woman before.

Such vitriol!  How many gifts is it going to take to get your approval back up?

A working block button would be nice<_<

That never works, even if you block him, you'll see all the replies he gets...sigh.

Yeah, I just figured that out. I've never blocked anyone before, so I didn't know that. Oh well.

Look! It's Ali:wub:

[Sandtigress]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Serissia wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
Yes, if you initiate the tent with him, then in place of his tent invite you get that confession.

Right after or later on?  I haven't not let him lead in ages.

The confession comes whenever he hits love, next time you enter camp.

I didn't really like the confession more than I liked the him iniating thing. I think it is much more cute.

I think I'm biased because my favorites are elves.  His reply to "Even though I'm not human like you?" - "Of course not" is WAY better than "Even though I'm an elf?" "Especially because of that!"

Plus, I have to admit that I melt EVERY time over "You're the first woman I've ever been with, and if I have my way, you'll be the last."  That line just KILLS me.  :wub::wub:

[Axekix]

Sandtigress wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

Well the point is specifically that he has no confidence in his leadership.

Annnnnd if you spent years sleeping in the stables and with dogs and having it beaten into your head that you're a commoner whose not worthy to take the throne and that the only reason you're alive is because your father had a fling with a random woman.....wouldn't you?

Oh I'm not saying it's not justified.  I understand why he is the way he is.  I was merely defending the assertion that he is very self-conscious.  I don't think we're really in disagreement here.

[Sandtigress]

Merilsell wrote...

Lol, high five Sandti. I was about to write the same thing

lol It's the Dalish lover in us, makes us so great that we think alike!

[Sandtigress]

Axekix wrote...

Oh I'm not saying it's not justified.  I understand why he is the way he is.  I was merely defending the assertion that he is very self-conscious.  I don't think we're really in disagreement here.

Being self-concious is somehow wimpy? 

[Lady Jess]

Axekix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

No, not really. A lot of soldiers are lead by people who have been in the army for less time than them. It isn't time that matters, it depends on how good you are at leading. Alistair is not good at leading, so why would he assert his authority when he has no confidence in his leadership?

Well the point is specifically that he has no confidence in his leadership.

No the point that you REFUSE to get, is that he GAINS confidence in his leadership THROUGHOUT THE GAME. By the time landsmeet hits (If you have hardened him) he IS willing to be king, and will in fact tell you he's ready, and that he can do it.  And Kryyp is right. I know soldiers, I am married to one. And when before he got into a position of leadership, he didn't have confidence that he could do it. But he LEARNED those skills from those around him, his then leaders. And as of right now he's a danged good leader, leading a squad in Afghanistan, and has earned a Bronze Star for Valor for his leadership of said squad during an Ambush last summer. They had been out in 100+ degree heat, were starting to dehydrate, and on their way back to camp when it hit. He got every member of his squad to safety, not a single injury, and carried his platoon sgt out with all his equipment plus what he himself was wearing (80 pounds of equipment each, and mind you my husband is 5'7 and about 140 poundsand 36 years old).

Not bad for a guy that didn't think HE could lead in the past now is it? Not bad for a guy that took weeks to admit he was in love with me, and months more to propose.

[MelRedux]

oh boy.....Look! Over here!!! Shiny again!!





*hopes that distacts from fight. fights make Mel cry*

[Lady Jess]

Mel_Redux wrote...

oh boy.....Look! Over here!!! Shiny again!!


*hopes that distacts from fight. fights make Mel cry*

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