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Well, the whole permanence thing is all in my own head, of course, so you're free to RP it how you want.  But I guess the...what is it, Dragonlance elves, I think it is, kind of sticks with me, how they form few friendships or lasting enmities because they're so long lived that such strong emotions would be disruptive for very long times.  I kind of imagine that DAO immortal elves would run along the same lines - especially since they're said to have spent centuries saying hello, or contemplating even simple things.

Even though the Dalish aren't back to immortality, in trying to achieve it, they do seem to be working towards breeding patience back into their children, and trying to weed away the impatience of the humans and flat ears.

So in my mind, they try hard to make such relationships as permanent as possible, kind of all or nothing, hence Cammen and Gheyna's reluctance to enter into anything together before they agreed to bond with each other.

It is in line with Tolkien elves as well, though I try to be careful because I've made Tolkienesque assumptions before and these don't always apply.  But I do see how I've RPed Tamlen and Idun as essentially Tolkien- they chose each other as children.

Not sure what Dragonlance is.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.  G'night you crazy Alistarians.

Modifié par Addai67, 03 juin 2010 - 06:05 .


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Kryyptehk wrote...
Not you, darling, the picture. I'm not mad at you, I promise! -hands Alistair shaped cookie-<3


Oooh, okay :blush: *eats cookie head first*


@Axe- if you kicked my cat you'd be dead before you know it >:| This is nothing compared to that storm of hellrage that would be brought upon you then :P

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So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.Posted Image

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cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

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Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

I need a mod?

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yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...
Not you, darling, the picture. I'm not mad at you, I promise! -hands Alistair shaped cookie-<3


Oooh, okay :blush: *eats cookie head first*


@Axe- if you kicked my cat you'd be dead before you know it >:| This is nothing compared to that storm of hellrage that would be brought upon you then :P

Don't I know it.  If you girls are that  protective of Alistair's pixels I wouldn't dream of touching your kitties.

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Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

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Heck, I don't mind the "Ohhh sparkly!" personality if it was offset by some kind of awesomeness. But she's not awesome at any point in the game, at least not that I've seen.


If she had just a little bit of Zev or Morrigan to her, just a touch of it...it would help. I'm going to hit her with a feast day gift and harden her early, see if that helps at all? maybe her dialogs change, who knows.

I have romanced her with a male and female. I honestly can't say whether or not I have ever hardened her. I found her boring both ways.


after Marjolaine, if you tell her that she shouldn't feel bad for being what she is, that she's a bard a spy, she'll be hardened.


Is there any change to her, besides the end, when you harden her? I harden her half the time, and the only difference I've seen is her choice of clothes & epilogue card at the end. Is it different if you're in a romance with her?

This is Leliana in my game:
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cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

I need a mod?

Not to change anything, but yes. Her dialogue on that subject is buggy so you'll get the unhardened breakup speech without it.

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Axekix wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...
Not you, darling, the picture. I'm not mad at you, I promise! -hands Alistair shaped cookie-<3


Oooh, okay :blush: *eats cookie head first*


@Axe- if you kicked my cat you'd be dead before you know it >:| This is nothing compared to that storm of hellrage that would be brought upon you then :P

Don't I know it.  If you girls are that  protective of Alistair's pixels I wouldn't dream of touching your kitties.


Kitties are sacred. I've thrown men out of the house for yelling at them, let alone kicking them! Of course, then they wouldn't be thrown out, they'd be buried somewhere in the backyard :devil:

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Axekix wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...
Not you, darling, the picture. I'm not mad at you, I promise! -hands Alistair shaped cookie-<3


Oooh, okay :blush: *eats cookie head first*


@Axe- if you kicked my cat you'd be dead before you know it >:| This is nothing compared to that storm of hellrage that would be brought upon you then :P

Don't I know it.  If you girls are that  protective of Alistair's pixels I wouldn't dream of touching your kitties.


If you're the kind of person who would hurt a kitty anyway you're evil and should be punished. :crying:

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sabreene wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Heck, I don't mind the "Ohhh sparkly!" personality if it was offset by some kind of awesomeness. But she's not awesome at any point in the game, at least not that I've seen.


If she had just a little bit of Zev or Morrigan to her, just a touch of it...it would help. I'm going to hit her with a feast day gift and harden her early, see if that helps at all? maybe her dialogs change, who knows.

I have romanced her with a male and female. I honestly can't say whether or not I have ever hardened her. I found her boring both ways.


after Marjolaine, if you tell her that she shouldn't feel bad for being what she is, that she's a bard a spy, she'll be hardened.


Is there any change to her, besides the end, when you harden her? I harden her half the time, and the only difference I've seen is her choice of clothes & epilogue card at the end. Is it different if you're in a romance with her?

This is Leliana in my game:
Posted Image

Oh, she's really pretty! Posted Image

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Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

I need a mod?

Not to change anything, but yes. Her dialogue on that subject is buggy so you'll get the unhardened breakup speech without it.

Is there a mod for this somewhere?

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cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

I need a mod?

Not to change anything, but yes. Her dialogue on that subject is buggy so you'll get the unhardened breakup speech without it.

Is there a mod for this somewhere?


Doesn't ejoslin's mod fix it?

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sabreene wrote...

Kitties are sacred. I've thrown men out of the house for yelling at them, let alone kicking them! Of course, then they wouldn't be thrown out, they'd be buried somewhere in the backyard :devil:

Hahaha, so I've seen!

yukidama wrote...
If you're the kind of person who would hurt a
kitty anyway you're evil and should be punished. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

My weapon of choice is photoshop.  Although kitties + ps usually just leads to more cuteness.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So is there anything special I need to know (other than hardening her) in order to keep her as my mistress? At least in this case there is an excuse for her not being with you for Awakening. I HATE Anora so I need someone on the side. I'd prefer Morrigan but it can't happen.

You need the right mod, of course. .

I need a mod?

Not to change anything, but yes. Her dialogue on that subject is buggy so you'll get the unhardened breakup speech without it.

Is there a mod for this somewhere?


Doesn't ejoslin's mod fix it?


I'm pretty sure it does. I haven't gotten the speech myself (since I haven't done the romance that far), but I know it's listed in the ZDF files.

Modifié par sabreene, 03 juin 2010 - 06:18 .


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Sarah1281 wrote...

sabreene wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Heck, I don't mind the "Ohhh sparkly!" personality if it was offset by some kind of awesomeness. But she's not awesome at any point in the game, at least not that I've seen.


If she had just a little bit of Zev or Morrigan to her, just a touch of it...it would help. I'm going to hit her with a feast day gift and harden her early, see if that helps at all? maybe her dialogs change, who knows.

I have romanced her with a male and female. I honestly can't say whether or not I have ever hardened her. I found her boring both ways.


after Marjolaine, if you tell her that she shouldn't feel bad for being what she is, that she's a bard a spy, she'll be hardened.


Is there any change to her, besides the end, when you harden her? I harden her half the time, and the only difference I've seen is her choice of clothes & epilogue card at the end. Is it different if you're in a romance with her?

This is Leliana in my game:
Posted Image

Oh, she's really pretty! Posted Image


Thank you! She seems to fit her voice better to me, and I don't mind the stories so much when I'm thinking how pretty she is :)

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Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.

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OMG I wanna make sure because I cannot be stuck with the Ice Queen

Her unhardened dialogue is sad, and I would never say some of those things to her.(If you are marrying Anora that is)

Modifié par cmessaz, 03 juin 2010 - 06:25 .


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Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.


Naming system? What do you mean? I'm hispanic but my family is from the Caribbean so I dunno if I can help.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.

This page talks about it.

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yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.


Naming system? What do you mean? I'm hispanic but my family is from the Caribbean so I dunno if I can help.


I mean with the last name thing. I've only met one hispanic person who has the two last name thing but I hear it is common in Mexico and other hispanic areas. I'm writing a hispanic character and I'm unsure how her name should be.

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Ok, I'm done torturing myself...I'm just not going to play her until I have more depth than "kickass good girl". All i have so far is she's loving her freedom, loves cutting loose with magic and blades, thrives on battle, and gets along great with Wynne (mentor) even though she fights some of the advice and Leliana, because they both have the religious views...tho I *think* Caislyn is more Andraste than Maker.



Alistair has given her the rose, and their first kiss. And that's where I stop. I want HER to initiate the tent, and can't quite figure out how she'd approach that. I have worked out how she'd be able to put him on the throne while in a romance with him. That part was easy. She'll choose Gwaren for her boon (Long distance chancellor can't work), then choose return to the wardens, and what happens happens. Remembering Wynne's lecture about love, death, and duty.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.


Naming system? What do you mean? I'm hispanic but my family is from the Caribbean so I dunno if I can help.


I mean with the last name thing. I've only met one hispanic person who has the two last name thing but I hear it is common in Mexico and other hispanic areas. I'm writing a hispanic character and I'm unsure how her name should be.

From Wikipedia...

In Spain, upon marrying, the woman does not change her surnames to adopt her husband’s because Spanish naming customs do not include the maiden name concept — thus, when Leocadia Blanco Álvarez marries Pedro Pérez Montilla, she retains her original name Leocadia Blanco Álvarez. Moreover, in chapter V, part 2 of Don Quixote (1605, 1615), Teresa Panza broaches this matter by reminding husband Sancho that, properly, she should be addressed as Teresa Cascajo, by her paternal surname, not her marital surname, to wit: “Teresa I was named in baptism, a clean and short name, without addings or embellishments, or furnishings of dons and dans; ‘Cascajo’ was my father; and I, as your wife, am called ‘Teresa Panza’, but laws are executed”.[5]
However, the husband's surname can be added after the woman's first surname using the particle "de". Leocadia Blanco Álvarez, married to Pedro Pérez Montilla, can be addressed as Leocadia Blanco de Pérez. This format is not common in everyday use; it's mostly reserved for situations where the relationship to the husband is to be stressed.
To sum up, if a man named Fernando García Pons marries a woman named Paula Rodríguez Pérez, their child Salvador would be named Salvador García Rodríguez, more likely than not.


In the generational transmission of surnames, the paternal surname’s precedence eventually eliminates the maternal surnames from the family lineage. Contemporary law allows the maternal surname to be given precedence, but most people observe the traditional paternal–maternal surname order. So the daughter and son of Ángela López Sáenz and Tomás Portillo Blanco are usually called Laura Portillo López and Pedro Portillo López, but also could be called Laura López Portillo and Pedro López Portillo. Regardless of the surname order, all children's surnames must be in the same order when recorded to the Registro Civil.
Patrilineal surname transmission was not always the norm in Spanish speaking societies. Prior to the mid-eighteenth century, when the current paternal-maternal surname combination norm came into existence, Hispanophone societies often practised matrilineal surname transmission, giving children the maternal surname, and, occasionally, gaving children a grandparent's surname (borne by neither parent) for prestige — being perceived as gentry — and profit, flattering the matriarch or the patriarch in hope of inheriting land. As with Catalan names, the Spanish naming customs include the orthographic option of conjoining the surnames with the conjunction particle y (meaning "and"), e.g. José Ortega y Gasset, or Tomás Portillo y Blanco, following an antiquated aristocratic usage.
Not every surname is a single word; such conjoining usage is common with doubled surnames (maternal-paternal), ancestral composite surnames willed to the following generations — especially when the paternal surname is socially undistinguished. José María Álvarez del Manzano y López del Hierro is an example, his name comprising a composite (two-word) single name, José María, and two composite surnames Álvarez del Manzano and López del Hierro. Other examples derive from church place-names such as San José. When a person bears doubled surnames, the means of disambiguation is to insert y betwixt the paternal and maternal surnames.
In case of illegitimacy — when the child's father either is unknown or refuses to legally recognise his son or daughter — the child bears both of the mother's surnames.
Occasionally, a person with a common paternal surname and an uncommon maternal surname becomes widely known by the maternal surname. The artist Pablo Ruiz Picasso, the poet Federico García Lorca, and the politician José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero are examples. With similar effect, the foreign paternal surname of the Uruguayan writer Eduardo Hughes Galeano (his father was British) is usually omitted. (As a boy, however, he occasionally signed his name as Eduardo Gius, using a hispanized approximation of the English pronunciation of "Hughes".) Such use of the second last name by itself is colloquial, however, and may not be applied in legal contexts.



#36149
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Sarah1281 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.

This page talks about it.


Ah, that answers one of my questions exactly. Though how popular is the tradition of naming a child like that? Is it the norm (like having one surname in America?)

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Kryyptehk wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Are there any people here who hail from a Hispanic country or know anything about the naming system? I need help for something I'm writing.


Naming system? What do you mean? I'm hispanic but my family is from the Caribbean so I dunno if I can help.


I mean with the last name thing. I've only met one hispanic person who has the two last name thing but I hear it is common in Mexico and other hispanic areas. I'm writing a hispanic character and I'm unsure how her name should be.


Oh, yeah. Where I'm from we also have the zillion surnames thing :P It's pretty much as described in the link Sarah posted. Though I only have one surname since my dad and I were born here so we've adopted American naming conventions. I think it's safe to give such a character two surnames. First her father's then her mother's.