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[sylvanaerie]

Yes I think it WAS called that. Wow learn something new about this game every day!

[Merilsell]

Sarah1281 wrote...
Okay, I know GWs can't have children together but if fertility were not affected then would the DE/Alistair pairing still be so attractive as she'd be sacrificing her heritage to pop out human babies or would that make her think twice?

Damn why is the Dalish talk every time happening, when I'm away

Anyway, for my Dalish he is all that she has left, that little piece of happiness she never expected to find among/in the death, foreign, frightening world and tragedy, especially not in a human man. Sure, she could return to her clan after the blight, but it wouldn't be the same anymore. She had already noticed that while being in the Dalish camp for the treaty. It isn't the place where she belongs anymore, it didn't felt right. She has just changed too much to be able to pick up her old life afterwards, as if nothing has happened. She had moved on, while her clan is still the same.

And besides that she would rather rip herself apart than to give this fraction of happiness up, so no. Considering Alistair she is all "I love him, screw the rest of the world. I don't care."

[Addai]

Merilsell wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I uploaded a few Dalish videos tonight- talking to Sarel about the werewolves and Lanaya about her background and Zathrian.  Interesting that Sarel admits several times that Zathrian is lying.  I gather these two do not get along, but I'm sure the fact that Sarel's wife died from the curse brought this to the fore.

That is an interesting fact, no less. I never have seen it in that kinda light. Will help me to figure it out for my FF (I love little details like that) as well as all the videos do. Thanks <3

Happy to oblige.    I've been noticing how openly hostile Zathrian is to you.  I'm going to be RPing it that he knows Idun is on to him.  She would have been taught about local spirits and can tell an abomination when she sees one.  From her perspective it is so obvious that something fishy is going on, if not the details.  This is where it will really be appropriate for her to berate Zathrian for betraying his people, by lying to them about the source of his longevity and about the source of the curse.  While I think the Dalish have a strong in-bred paternalism that makes them not want to question the keepers, he's basically been abusing this.

But really, it is so overwhelming for a Dalish PC to have Alistair turn on the charm. The last thing you expect from a shemlen man.  I had Idun laugh it off a bit, but that was to cover up the fact that her head was spinning. 

Yup. Although Aeris is no Dalish, I experience the same with her right now. Alistair the elf-magnet, it is indeed fascinating to see it working live in action every time. Considering my Lenya, well this will be one complicated thing for various reasons, I can tell. Though more I won't tell because it gives to much away of my FF  :innocent:

I think Idun is going to try to put him off as long as she can.  On the way to the tent, she'll still be saying, "I'm an apostate to your people, you shouldn't do this."  While she's got her tongue in his ear, of course.    It's complicated because of Tamlen, too.  I'm not sure how the timing is going to work out, but probably she would only finally give in after seeing Tamlen.  Maybe even only after the gauntlet, when Tamlen's shade is telling her to move on.  If the game allowed it, I think she would stretch it out even more, but maybe the fact that she expects they both will die will factor in.  It seems to do so for Alistair, since his tent initiation is a bit of a "seize the day" rationale.

[sylvanaerie]

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

I have RPed mages who were extremely squirrelly precisely because of the repressive nature of the Tower.  When they finally get their freedom, they want to taste all life has to offer.

[Lady Jess]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

[sylvanaerie]

Lady Jess wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

yep yep!   

[Lady Jess]

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

I have RPed mages who were extremely squirrelly precisely because of the repressive nature of the Tower.  When they finally get their freedom, they want to taste all life has to offer.

I did envision her a bit like Sigrun. I imagine her party finds her standing and staring at the sky, or laying in tall grass smiling frequently. I don't want to make her into that naughty school girl type though, her beliefs are important to her. But maybe what I said up there will work, competition teaching to go for what you want, and the destruction at the tower pushing home how fleeting life is.

[LadyDamodred]

Lady Jess wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

You could also do it after a really big fight.  You know, all that adreniline is going, you're primed and ready, maybe a close call with death.  All those things can lead to something...

*coughs*  I haven't rp'd that scenario or anything!  I swear! 

[Sandtigress]

Merilsell wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Okay, I know GWs can't have children together but if fertility were not affected then would the DE/Alistair pairing still be so attractive as she'd be sacrificing her heritage to pop out human babies or would that make her think twice?

Damn why is the Dalish talk every time happening, when I'm away

Anyway, for my Dalish he is all that she has left, that little piece of happiness she never expected to find among/in the death, foreign, frightening world and tragedy, especially not in a human man. Sure, she could return to her clan after the blight, but it wouldn't be the same anymore. She had already noticed that while being in the Dalish camp for the treaty. It isn't the place where she belongs anymore, it didn't felt right. She has just changed too much to be able to pick up her old life afterwards, as if nothing has happened. She had moved on, while her clan is still the same.

And besides that she would rather rip herself apart than to give this fraction of happiness up, so no. Considering Alistair she is all "I love him, screw the rest of the world. I don't care."

I didn't see that yesterday either.  I think she might think on it with sorrow, but when it finally came to it, she would greet children happily.

She's already come to realize that she's not just Dalish anymore - She's a Grey Warden too and that makes her unique from amongst her people.  The only reason she can even consider being with Alistair is because he's clan in a different way, and so just the same way, they'd be raising clan together, of a sorts.

[Lady Jess]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

You could also do it after a really big fight.  You know, all that adreniline is going, you're primed and ready, maybe a close call with death.  All those things can lead to something...

*coughs*  I haven't rp'd that scenario or anything!  I swear! 

Ohh ther's that too. They just did the circle tower and saved Conner...all of the above!

[sylvanaerie]

Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

You could also do it after a really big fight.  You know, all that adreniline is going, you're primed and ready, maybe a close call with death.  All those things can lead to something...

*coughs*  I haven't rp'd that scenario or anything!  I swear! 

Ohh ther's that too. They just did the circle tower and saved Conner...all of the above!

now I wanna play my mage again...and I haven't finished BIA yet...I miss that Alistair lovin'.

[Lady Jess]

sylvanaerie wrote...

now I wanna play my mage again...and I haven't finished BIA yet...I miss that Alistair lovin'.

My first mage was deleted becaue the landsmeet killed her. my second, Evielle, I didn't RP at all. So this one I'm trying to play AND rp, but it's been a challenge since she's my only character without a real traumatic origin.

[AnniLau]

Sandtigress wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Okay, I know GWs can't have children together but if fertility were not affected then would the DE/Alistair pairing still be so attractive as she'd be sacrificing her heritage to pop out human babies or would that make her think twice?

Damn why is the Dalish talk every time happening, when I'm away

Anyway, for my Dalish he is all that she has left, that little piece of happiness she never expected to find among/in the death, foreign, frightening world and tragedy, especially not in a human man. Sure, she could return to her clan after the blight, but it wouldn't be the same anymore. She had already noticed that while being in the Dalish camp for the treaty. It isn't the place where she belongs anymore, it didn't felt right. She has just changed too much to be able to pick up her old life afterwards, as if nothing has happened. She had moved on, while her clan is still the same.

And besides that she would rather rip herself apart than to give this fraction of happiness up, so no. Considering Alistair she is all "I love him, screw the rest of the world. I don't care."

I didn't see that yesterday either.  I think she might think on it with sorrow, but when it finally came to it, she would greet children happily.

She's already come to realize that she's not just Dalish anymore - She's a Grey Warden too and that makes her unique from amongst her people.  The only reason she can even consider being with Alistair is because he's clan in a different way, and so just the same way, they'd be raising clan together, of a sorts.

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

[cmessaz]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is it safe to assume, even a mild tempered, and pious mage, would still have had to be extremely competitive and strong to survive at the circle? Thereby taking a bit to be able to relax in a group...i'm stuck at the pre-tent moment and can't figure out how little miss goody goody who's only ever kissed Cullen, would ever work up the nerve to proposition Alistair.

Been my experience those proper and prim, mild mannered ones kinda cut loose once they get the chance to let their hair down.  She may be shy about it at first but then WHAMMO!!  And nothing says she can't be a bit competitive cause Circle politics like anywhere else seem kind of cutthroat in the game.  She was Irving's star pupil and picked on by other mages at the tower (if you played it that way?) and would've made her more willing to grab what she wants. Just my take on it?

I did play that, it is hard not to when you hear the snark as soon as you wake up. I'm kind of thinking that competitive streak (excel or end up tranquil!) is what makes her cut loose and go for it. Grab the happy when you can. Especially after seeing the tower, all those mages dead without having really lived, that templar only able to find happiness through a desire demon's thrall...

You could also do it after a really big fight.  You know, all that adreniline is going, you're primed and ready, maybe a close call with death.  All those things can lead to something...

*coughs*  I haven't rp'd that scenario or anything!  I swear! 

Ohh ther's that too. They just did the circle tower and saved Conner...all of the above!

now I wanna play my mage again...and I haven't finished BIA yet...I miss that Alistair lovin'.

This is why I have a female character going at the same time, so when I miss it I can load her up. Let's face it, none of the other romances have the extra sexytime.

edit: Well there is BSC. But that is out when I romance Zevran.

Modifié par cmessaz, 03 juin 2010 - 04:11 .

[sylvanaerie]

AnniLau wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Okay, I know GWs can't have children together but if fertility were not affected then would the DE/Alistair pairing still be so attractive as she'd be sacrificing her heritage to pop out human babies or would that make her think twice?

Damn why is the Dalish talk every time happening, when I'm away

Anyway, for my Dalish he is all that she has left, that little piece of happiness she never expected to find among/in the death, foreign, frightening world and tragedy, especially not in a human man. Sure, she could return to her clan after the blight, but it wouldn't be the same anymore. She had already noticed that while being in the Dalish camp for the treaty. It isn't the place where she belongs anymore, it didn't felt right. She has just changed too much to be able to pick up her old life afterwards, as if nothing has happened. She had moved on, while her clan is still the same.

And besides that she would rather rip herself apart than to give this fraction of happiness up, so no. Considering Alistair she is all "I love him, screw the rest of the world. I don't care."

I didn't see that yesterday either.  I think she might think on it with sorrow, but when it finally came to it, she would greet children happily.

She's already come to realize that she's not just Dalish anymore - She's a Grey Warden too and that makes her unique from amongst her people.  The only reason she can even consider being with Alistair is because he's clan in a different way, and so just the same way, they'd be raising clan together, of a sorts.

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

All human (at least that close) there is a thread on the boards discussing the genetics of it but I dont have the link.  I suppose if the children only bred with o0ther elves way down the line they might start breeding true again?

[Addai]

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

If elves begin to lose their elvishness simply by close contact with humans, I'm going to say yes.

Another reason why a Dalish Warden would not be likely to go back to her clan.  She's been in close contact with humans for over a year and, fair or not, would be seen as tainted by more than the darkspawn taint.

[Sandtigress]

Addai67 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

If elves begin to lose their elvishness simply by close contact with humans, I'm going to say yes.

Another reason why a Dalish Warden would not be likely to go back to her clan.  She's been in close contact with humans for over a year and, fair or not, would be seen as tainted by more than the darkspawn taint.

Agreed - my Warden ponders this when Alistair tells her about the thirty year lifespan thing.  She already knew that her life would be shorter than if she had been with the clans because of the contact with humans, but thirty years is much shorter than even she thought.  She knew she'd have to face accelerated quickening, just not the added shortening of the taint.

[sylvanaerie]

Mine was of a mind that "I would have died anyway" so I just bought myself 30 years. (though that took a while to reach that point as she hated Duncan and had to be dragged to Ostagar).

[AnniLau]

sylvanaerie wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

All human (at least that close) there is a thread on the boards discussing the genetics of it but I dont have the link.  I suppose if the children only bred with o0ther elves way down the line they might start breeding true again?

I know it's a fictional world with its own rules, but that's genetically nonsensical. Even if the elven genes are recessive to the point that half-breeds are always phenotypically human, the recessive genes should at least start  reappearing in a child with more elf than human blood.

[sylvanaerie]

AnniLau wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

All human (at least that close) there is a thread on the boards discussing the genetics of it but I dont have the link.  I suppose if the children only bred with o0ther elves way down the line they might start breeding true again?

I know it's a fictional world with its own rules, but that's genetically nonsensical. Even if the elven genes are recessive to the point that half-breeds are always phenotypically human, the recessive genes should at least start  reappearing in a child with more elf than human blood.

You would think so eh? I always wondered why there were no half elves just humans and elves.  (and of course dwarves though you CAN have half-dwarves)

[cmessaz]

How does this Fraps thing work? I want to record the wonderful conversation I had last night with Alistair when he asks you about other party members. I have all 3 romances active.

[Sandtigress]

AnniLau wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

All human (at least that close) there is a thread on the boards discussing the genetics of it but I dont have the link.  I suppose if the children only bred with o0ther elves way down the line they might start breeding true again?

I know it's a fictional world with its own rules, but that's genetically nonsensical. Even if the elven genes are recessive to the point that half-breeds are always phenotypically human, the recessive genes should at least start  reappearing in a child with more elf than human blood.

lol If it's a dominant epigenetic effect or is related to paternal/maternal effects....I could see it happening.

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...

How does this Fraps thing work? I want to record the wonderful conversation I had last night with Alistair when he asks you about other party members. I have all 3 romances active.

Do you have the program?

And what character do you have all three romances active with?  Gaia? 

[Addai]

AnniLau wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mother, would the babies still be human though? I know there are no half-elves, but what would happen with three-quarters elf blood? Are the genes that  adaptive?

All human (at least that close) there is a thread on the boards discussing the genetics of it but I dont have the link.  I suppose if the children only bred with o0ther elves way down the line they might start breeding true again?

I know it's a fictional world with its own rules, but that's genetically nonsensical. Even if the elven genes are recessive to the point that half-breeds are always phenotypically human, the recessive genes should at least start  reappearing in a child with more elf than human blood.

The human "dominance" over elven blood is from more than just the genetic material, though.  As I said upthread, it begins to assert itself simply by casual but close contact.  Being human is contagious, apparently. 


Edit for tops.  I miss Maricstair.  He's coming back in Idun's game, soon.

Modifié par Addai67, 03 juin 2010 - 04:34 .