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I think it just really indicates he has no intention of doing anything.  Unlike the firms promises he gives the HN, where it's basically 'Come hell or high water, Howe will hang for what he has done.  and I'll use the whole damn army if I have to.'  I know it's a totally different situation, but I think it speaks to the difference when he truly committs to something.  He's not really interested in city elves/dwarves.  Understandable, to a point, but still...

I think humans in Ferelden basically don't "see" elves.  They're like furniture.  Or they consider them to simply be part of the underclass alongside human poor, so there's a lot of apathy.  Maric seems genuinely puzzled by....


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..Fiona's desire that their child be raised as though he had a human mother.

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Another idea -



Maybe someone one day, will edit Alistair saying "I am right here, you know." when the PC is flirting with Bann Teagan. It just didn't make any sense that he would say nothing.



You can find that Dialogue, when you say to Eamon that Alistairs mother was a maid.

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Lol, I figured the high priestess would volunteer. I am very hopefull. Sadly, I may not be able to include BSC in the first version. I also was wondering if you have a save game right before Alistair asks the pc to bed that I can borrow.



Of course I have that save.  Lemme extract and email.  Any others you need?

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I need some lines....this is not my forte. You know, the creativity of a rock thing. What are some love-making initiation lines that the pc could use.


Follow me my sweet prince! or Take my hand.




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TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Another idea -

Maybe someone one day, will edit Alistair saying "I am right here, you know." when the PC is flirting with Bann Teagan. It just didn't make any sense that he would say nothing.

You can find that Dialogue, when you say to Eamon that Alistairs mother was a maid.

I could possible do something like that, after I finish my current project of course. I'll check into it. It always bothered me that he didn't say anything.

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Addai67 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
I think it just really indicates he has no intention of doing anything.  Unlike the firms promises he gives the HN, where it's basically 'Come hell or high water, Howe will hang for what he has done.  and I'll use the whole damn army if I have to.'  I know it's a totally different situation, but I think it speaks to the difference when he truly committs to something.  He's not really interested in city elves/dwarves.  Understandable, to a point, but still...

I think humans in Ferelden basically don't "see" elves.  They're like furniture.  Or they consider them to simply be part of the underclass alongside human poor, so there's a lot of apathy.  Maric seems genuinely puzzled by....


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..Fiona's desire that their child be raised as though he had a human mother.


Hmmm I played my HNs a bit different.  Course she could be speaking with a crush since Iona does seem to fancy the HN but she says that the Couslands treat their elven servants better than other nobles do.  I dunno.  That whole slavery thing really pisses me off and seals Loghain's doom more than anything else he did.  Also the plight of little Amethyne makes me cry every time I see her.  WHY isn't someone helping this child??

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
Lol, I figured the high priestess would volunteer. I am very hopefull. Sadly, I may not be able to include BSC in the first version. I also was wondering if you have a save game right before Alistair asks the pc to bed that I can borrow.



Of course I have that save.  Lemme extract and email.  Any others you need?

No I have one ready to bed him for the first time, pc initiated of course. I just need the one he initiates for the moment.

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cmessaz wrote...

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Another idea -

Maybe someone one day, will edit Alistair saying "I am right here, you know." when the PC is flirting with Bann Teagan. It just didn't make any sense that he would say nothing.

You can find that Dialogue, when you say to Eamon that Alistairs mother was a maid.

I could possible do something like that, after I finish my current project of course. I'll check into it. It always bothered me that he didn't say anything.


Thanks cmessaz.:)

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TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Zesty - My tent. now. or Show me what you've got. Big boy!
Normal - let's relieve some tension
Vanilla - Take my hand or You take the lead.


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there should be a violent option: Last one standing wins.





Or maybe it's just lulzy to me.

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TheGrumpyOne wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Another idea -

Maybe someone one day, will edit Alistair saying "I am right here, you know." when the PC is flirting with Bann Teagan. It just didn't make any sense that he would say nothing.

You can find that Dialogue, when you say to Eamon that Alistairs mother was a maid.

I could possible do something like that, after I finish my current project of course. I'll check into it. It always bothered me that he didn't say anything.


Thanks cmessaz.:)



Well I took it as the PC is just doing some courtly flirtation with Teagan to get his mind off the worries of what's going on even if its just for a moment. Neither means what they are saying unless you take it a bit too far and then Teagan gets kinda smitten but nothing beyond a momentary wish that the circumstances of their meeting were a bit different.  *Grumbles at the lack of Teagan mods*

OOOH Teagan and Alistair Sammich YUMMMY!!!

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 16 avril 2010 - 06:58 .


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cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
Lol, I figured the high priestess would volunteer. I am very hopefull. Sadly, I may not be able to include BSC in the first version. I also was wondering if you have a save game right before Alistair asks the pc to bed that I can borrow.



Of course I have that save.  Lemme extract and email.  Any others you need?

No I have one ready to bed him for the first time, pc initiated of course. I just need the one he initiates for the moment.


Sent.

Also, anyone know where to find the dialogue in the toolset after eamon recovers and talks about making Alistair king?

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Hmmm I played my HNs a bit different.  Course she could be speaking with a crush since Iona does seem to fancy the HN but she says that the Couslands treat their elven servants better than other nobles do. 

The elves in Highever Castle don't seem to be as beaten down, though Nan still talks to them atrociously and you do get an option to suggest that she beat them.  There's definitely RP room, though.  I conceived of my elven mage as having been the child of servants in Highever Castle, and a childhood playmate of Elissa Cousland.  Something like that would give a Cousland a different outlook than most.

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Valentia X wrote...

there should be a violent option: Last one standing wins.


Or maybe it's just lulzy to me.


No, it's kind of lulzy to me, too.

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It just seems like something she'd say. I figure adoring Alistair would stammer and blush, but in-love Alistair would know her well enough to know that... well, he's in for one hell of a ride.





>.>





I really did not intend for that to come out as dirty as it did. But whatever. XD

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sylvanaerie wrote...

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This whole Redcliff dialogue is just perfect when finding out about Alistair after sleeping with him.  I loved it, it fit.

Eamon and Teagen are discussing putting Alistair on the throne and my pc comes along and goes:

PC: What about Alistair?  What do you mean?  ( I really wish these words could of been in bold lol)

Bann Teagan: You don't know?

Alistair:  I, ah... meant to tell you when we were approaching Redcliff, but... (he seems so uncomfortable here, not sure how to respond lol)

Arl Eamon:  Alistair is King Maric's illegitimate son.  He is Cailan's half-brother and has a claim to the throne.

PC:  What why didn't you tell me this earlier, Alistair? (by now she's starting to see red lol)

Alistair:  I never thought it would come to this.  When Cailan got married, everyone thought it was best to just... have me step aside.  It was a relief, actually.

Alistair:  I don't want to be king, I never did.  Even when Cailan died I... I guess I hoped something else would present itself...

And then Eamon but's in with that it's your responsibility thing.  I so wanted to hit Eamon by then.  My pc didn't know if she should be pist at Alistair or feel sorry for him for being put in this position.  I wish there could of been an option to tell Eamon to stfu, Alistair and I needed to talk for a minute without his responsibility bull**** lol.

Ya she was pist by this time lmao.  Here's this man she's fallen head over heels with and she finds out that he's not who she thought he was.  It was a different way of rping.  I don't know if I'll ever do it again but it was definitely different.



Hehe yea I did this on one of my HN playthroughs.  Was a truly epic WTF moment for her.  Ultimately I prefer taking him to Redcliffe though for that bastard prince talk he gives her just as you enter.  Some of the dialog there can be really sweet and its very different if you aren't romancing him yet and just felt jarring without him in group since I take him everywhere I possibly can.



I really enjoy trying to mix things around and this was the first time I've ever done that.  Ya I use a HN too and like I said I thought it fit perfectly.  Here she is thinking about the future after the blights over with and maybe trying to settle down.  She's not sure if she wants to go back to Highever but the more she's come to care about Alistair the more she's finding the idea not so bad if she's got him by her side. 
Maybe the two of them can try and rebuild it together if he's willing to.  And by this far into the game she might be hearing wedding bells maybe in the future.  And then all of a sudden she finds this out, lol she probably wished she could be struck by lightning or at least Eamon be struck at that particular moment lmao.

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Opps, I was reading more of the book and got distracted.

Anyhow, Cailan really is very much how he is present in the beginning. He's even like that as a small child at the end of The Stolen Throne. Cailan grew up listening to stories of his father's prowess from Mother Ailis. In turn even as a small child he was concerned about ever being able to live up to his father's reputation. Alistair was very much right when he says to the PC something along the lines of Cailan riding into battle with the Wardens because he thinks that's what his father would of done.

Maric was never really around for his son's early years (as I'm not sure if that changes after The Calling). Maric was crushed when Rowan died. He lost not only his wife but his best friend too. Loghain became more resentful of Maric after Rowan's death. At the beginning of The Calling Maric really has very little to live for.

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Valentia X wrote...

there should be a violent option: Last one standing wins.


Or maybe it's just lulzy to me.



LMAO. Oh, you :wub:

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Valentia X wrote...

there should be a violent option: Last one standing wins.


Or maybe it's just lulzy to me.



LMAO. Oh, you :wub:



:wub: You know you'll have to play that for me just once, my dear. And screencap it for posterity.

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sylvanaerie wrote...

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Another idea -

Maybe someone one day, will edit Alistair saying "I am right here, you know." when the PC is flirting with Bann Teagan. It just didn't make any sense that he would say nothing.

You can find that Dialogue, when you say to Eamon that Alistairs mother was a maid.

I could possible do something like that, after I finish my current project of course. I'll check into it. It always bothered me that he didn't say anything.


Thanks cmessaz.:)



Well I took it as the PC is just doing some courtly flirtation with Teagan to get his mind off the worries of what's going on even if its just for a moment. Neither means what they are saying unless you take it a bit too far and then Teagan gets kinda smitten but nothing beyond a momentary wish that the circumstances of their meeting were a bit different.  *Grumbles at the lack of Teagan mods*

OOOH Teagan and Alistair Sammich YUMMMY!!!


LOL!:D

Well Alistair wouldn't know that, unless he has physic powers and can read the mind of his love. I wanted Ali to act a bit jealous of Teagan, because he seems to have a way of charming the ladies.

Modifié par TheGrumpyOne, 16 avril 2010 - 07:10 .


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Ohh this is frustrating, but it is coming along. Just an update. I will get the lines added after I make sure it works.

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I've also found it odd that in the game as far as I can recall it never mentions the fact that Loghain was head over heals in love with Rowan. Taking that into consideration when the PC, Alistair, Eamon, Loghain, Howe and Cauthrien are all taking when Eamon first comes to Denerim kind of puts the whole conversation in a new light.

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Serissia wrote...

Opps, I was reading more of the book and got distracted.

Anyhow, Cailan really is very much how he is present in the beginning. He's even like that as a small child at the end of The Stolen Throne. Cailan grew up listening to stories of his father's prowess from Mother Ailis. In turn even as a small child he was concerned about ever being able to live up to his father's reputation. Alistair was very much right when he says to the PC something along the lines of Cailan riding into battle with the Wardens because he thinks that's what his father would of done.

Maric was never really around for his son's early years (as I'm not sure if that changes after The Calling). Maric was crushed when Rowan died. He lost not only his wife but his best friend too. Loghain became more resentful of Maric after Rowan's death. At the beginning of The Calling Maric really has very little to live for.



See this is the problem I have with Loghain, Cailan and Rowan. Rowan and Loghain had a thing going, he fell in love with her and she him.  But because Maric and Rowan had been promised to each other since basically day 1 there was no future for Rowan and Loghain because of once again the damn duty thing. 
Cailan could have been Loghain's if duty wouldn't of interferred.  I was kind of surprised that Loghain didn't have more compassion for Cailan because of the fact he was Rowan's, the woman he fell in love with and for him to do what he did in Ostagar was pretty shocking. 

I wonder how tense life was for Cailan growing up with Loghain around, everytime he saw Cailan he probably couldn't help but see Rowan in the child's face.  I don't know, it's something I've thought about here n there lol.

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Serissia wrote...

I've also found it odd that in the game as far as I can recall it never mentions the fact that Loghain was head over heals in love with Rowan. Taking that into consideration when the PC, Alistair, Eamon, Loghain, Howe and Cauthrien are all taking when Eamon first comes to Denerim kind of puts the whole conversation in a new light.


Well, who knew?  Loghain is the only one who knows anymore.  I felt so bad for him.  :(

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Valentia X wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

there should be a violent option: Last one standing wins.


Or maybe it's just lulzy to me.



LMAO. Oh, you :wub:



:wub: You know you'll have to play that for me just once, my dear. And screencap it for posterity.


For you, anything :wub:

Though I'm gonna have to get some privacy blinds or something. I installed tmp's milder sex scenes mod and my mom randomly came in and asked me WTF I was doing. I felt like I was 13 being caught looking at porn or something. I suppose I should be glad I wasn't watching the Better Sex Cutsenes or The Pearl Redone ones :crying:

Damn having such a big screen and not a big enough head to cover it up! *shakes fist*