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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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The purpose of "examining" them is to see if any of them is an abomination. So I would think it has something to do with the Fade and a method similar to the Harrowing. But I did not get the impression that they will all be executed. Maybe they will, but I didn't get that impression.

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Lady Jess wrote...

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Alistair is grumpy there are not more pictures of him:
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Herr Uhl wrote...

What era? The one with magic?

Do you know about what will be done or is it a guess that they will be tortured until they admit their crimes?

The era which practiced trial by ordeal ( http://en.wikipedia....Trial_by_ordeal )

In this particular case torturing the subject actually makes some sense, since if they're actually an abomination then the one good way to force the demon to manifest itself would be situation threatening the life of the host.

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He's ot grumpy, I offered him cheese...



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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

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when Irving doesn't raise a single objection, and like a sheep, allows himself and the others to march off to the slaughterhouse with no protests, or any attempt to defend himself and the others.


It's not necessarily the slaughter house. It's more like "examination" whatever that means. Not rejecting the possibility of a purge. But it seems to me that emprisonement is more likely.



Methinks "examination" will resemble Torquemada and the inquisition more than a nice, clean "police interrogation". In otherwords, it is more likely a slow painful death will result from examinations, since it will be likely out of Gregoir's hands and given over to some serious mad Chantry fanatics. If they should survive the "examination", they will probably end up getting made Tranquil, just to be safe.

Annuling the circle I think means completely wiping it out.
 

And yes I argee with Morrigan on that regard. Even if that is my canon choice, I saw Irving not asserting himself to be an act of weakness, especially when Gregoir would have believed him.



My canon mage did not annul the circle, though she was very much tempted to. But that meant a victory for the Chantry. She became convinced, however, that she was one of few mages truly willing to risk all and break free, and thus, did not ask for the circle to be free as a boon. **** the circle.

But you are 100% right about Irving. Because we see all Irving need do was speak up and disagree, and Gregoire would have taken his word. I find it a shame that Uldred was too insane and controlled by demons, he would have made a far better First Enchanter.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

What era? The one with magic?

Do you know about what will be done or is it a guess that they will be tortured until they admit their crimes?

The era which practiced trial by ordeal ( http://en.wikipedia....Trial_by_ordeal )

In this particular case torturing the subject actually makes some sense, since if they're actually an abomination then the one good way to force the demon to manifest itself would be situation threatening the life of the host.


So it's mainly a guess at what will be done. I have no idea what will be done, but I would assume that they are released after proving themselves clean.

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Good... afternoon, everyone. My sleep schedule is really messed up :[ Um. Here.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
I find it a shame that Uldred was too insane and controlled by demons, he would have made a far better First Enchanter.


And he would have mobalised the mages to serve in Loghain's army. That was the plan at least and he very nearly succeeded if it wasn't for Wynne deciding to be...well Wynne.
 
As for the "examination". Yea I guess you're right, it won't be pleasant. Oh well, if Irving admitted the possibility of danger, then who am I to contradict him.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

So it's mainly a guess at what will be done. I have no idea what will be done, but I would assume that they are released after proving themselves clean.

Aye, it's not documented anywhere as far as i can tell. Although, interestingly enough, going this route makes the Codex state that Irving "has died when the Tower was overran by demons, and the fate of the Circle is now in doubt".

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tmp7704 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

So it's mainly a guess at what will be done. I have no idea what will be done, but I would assume that they are released after proving themselves clean.

Aye, it's not documented anywhere as far as i can tell. Although, interestingly enough, going this route makes the Codex state that Irving "has died when the Tower was overran by demons, and the fate of the Circle is now in doubt".


I think it's probably a glitch. Irving survived the Tower being overran.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I think it's probably a glitch. Irving survived the Tower being overran.

Most likely, although it can be also interpreted as game hinting he did not survive the interrogation which followed.

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tmp7704 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I think it's probably a glitch. Irving survived the Tower being overran.

Most likely, although it can be also interpreted as game hinting he did not survive the interrogation which followed.

I think that it would be mentioned in the epilogue slides if that was the case.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...



And he would have mobalised the mages to serve in Loghain's army. That was the plan at least and he very nearly succeeded if it wasn't for Wynne deciding to be...well Wynne.



I know. That's about the only that Loghain did that I felt was good thinking and planning on his part. Having the mages loyal to you certainly will boost your chances of success. I never really thought Loghain responsible at all for what happened at the tower, and I loved it when he told Wynne off.

But yeah...Wynnie the tatle tale.
 

As for the "examination". Yea I guess you're right, it won't be pleasant. Oh well, if Irving admitted the possibility of danger, then who am I to contradict him.

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I guess abominations are okay if they are Chantry stooges. Which makes Wynne's moralizing on Morrigan all the more amusing and ironic.

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cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Did you come up with one for siding with the werewolves?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Did you come up with one for siding with the werewolves?


She came up with a reason to execute Alistair if in love with him!  Werewolves seem easy compared to that.  I'm sure Lady D could come up with a reason to kick defenseless puppies, if need be. Posted Image

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Did you come up with one for siding with the werewolves?


Besides being an evil f*ck?  No.  I can come up with RP ones, but ugh, they're not great.  The problem for me lies in the fact that siding with the Dalish means you slaughter an entire elven clan, down to the children.  It would be much easier if you could just tell Zathrian to screw and side with the werewolves.  As it is, siding with the werewolves in pretty evil.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Enlighten me at least.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Did you come up with one for siding with the werewolves?

It wasn't so hard when I used the correct dialogue honestly. I told Zathrien to basically end the curse or else. He refused so ass kickery time! It played out alright.

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Quite easy to justify annulling the circle while playing a mage. My blood mage did it, because she felt the Circle, and Irving especially, pathetic. They fought againt an attempt at their own freedom, so she felt they deserved to be sacrificed to the Chantry.



One can play a mage that never cared for the Circle, and thinks those who don't rise up more often are better dead than perpetual slaves.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady J- If you figure out a good way to RP a mage annulling the circle let me know. Wynne makes me feel like an ass.


Psssh, that's easy.


Enlighten me at least.


People basically covered it.

Ah, yeah, I suppose when you force Zathrian into the confrontation, it's not as bad.  I have real issues with the first opportunity which is convincing the werewolves the first time you meet them to kill the elves.

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Lady- yeah the beginning made me wanna reload. But the confrontation made it better. Plus the cutscene is way cool.

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Tis a lovely thread:

Help men everywhere understand the female obsession with Dragon Age's Alistair

I think it's because Alistair's a little boy in the body of a man. No
experience, no backbone, no character. He can be willingly shaped and/or
manipulated into whatever the female partner wants him to be. Unlike
with Zevran, it's not a relationship on equal footing... the poor lad's
mothered all the way.


because Alistair is everything an unsatisfied wife would want from a
man, in contrast to their overweight, drunk, balding, disgusting
husbands


Excuse me, does anyone else feels the urge to vomit? Tis only I? :pinched:

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Modifié par Merilsell, 09 juin 2010 - 08:22 .